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“Its fiction” as an excuse is irrelevant and misleading.
First works of fiction are not without influence, sometimes great influence.
Second if there were lots if diverse stories out there telling the many and diverse sex worker stories that exist sex workers would not have to spend energy in such debates as above. But we don’t have diverse stories told about us. We are constantly stereotyped as poor young drug addicted girls with no futures and we are standing up and denying that this story is either usual or stereotypical.
Hmm, I guess the “best little whore house in Texas” doesn’t count. Nor do any of the stories containing the cliche of a “hooker with a heart of gold”. It seems that far too many people in today’s society just love to get offended at any perceived slight.
Gee whiz, Bob. At least understand the topic fully before trying to argue it. If you don’t understand intersectionality, then you’re not qualified to be involved here.
What’s this? A woman telling a man he is not qualified to be on a site for men, about men? If you don’t understand how extremely offensive your reply was, you aren’t qualified to be involved here.
Archy, re-read what princessbee wrote. “Understand the topic fully” and “intersectionality” are the key phrases.
“A woman telling a man he is not qualified” is offensive? Wow. Back at you.
I suggest you re-read it as well. EVERYONE has the abilty and initial right to comment on this website as long as it follows the comment guidelines, her telling him that he isn’t qualified is offensive. I have no objection to the part on her saying understand the topic fully, what I object to is the silencing tactic of stating he isn’t qualified to be here. This is a site for men first and foremost, it’s a site for a wide variety of opinions, no one has the right to tell others they aren’t qualified to be here. Calling someone out on ignorance is fine, telling them they can’t even talk about an issue is where I draw the line.
The second part of my comment was sarcastic, I probably should have indicated that better. She can talk here all she wants, as anyone can (unless they go against the guidelines of the comment policy of course).
LOL Bob, no they don’t ’cause that is the other common stereotype
Actually I guess I don’t know what intersectionality means, nor did I know there were qualification requirements to discuss a comic book. So sorry …
Amid all these histrionics, no one has bothered to actually identify where the offense lies. That someone has written a story about a sex worker? That the sex worker uses drugs? What exactly don’t you like about this character? That her mother doesn’t like her? That she didn’t go to college? It’s pretty offensive, to be honest, that you find people who don’t go to college or who use drugs so very objectionable…
It’s depicting sex workers as lost, lonely, desperate women. Even that first panel is portraying a woman who hates her life and probably herself too. That’s where the offence lies.
Please read the numerous comments from those who identified as sex workers.
You may not agree, but the identification you are looking for is clearly stated.
I took my two kids to watch the movie “Brave” today. It depicted a queen being bossy. (That is SO stereotypical of the royalty community.) It depicted a mother not listening to her daughter while simultaneously making decisions for her daughter’s life. (As the mother of a daughter, I get sooo sick of that old trope.) It depicted Scottish people being warlike and hard to understand. (De ja vu, Braveheart?) And yet, through all of these classic tropes and stereotypes, we were presented with the conflict which was required in order to reach a satisfactory resolution.
Would this comic be less offensive to sex workers if the main character did not use drugs and had a happy, fulfilled life and a Ph.D. hanging on the wall? Apparently. But then… it would also be rather less like a story.
“Would this comic be less offensive to sex workers if the main character did not use drugs and had a happy, fulfilled life and a Ph.D. hanging on the wall? Apparently. But then… it would also be rather less like a story.”
I disagree. I think it’d be a much better story. Telling the same, tired, stories over and over is actually quite boring. I just went and saw Prometheus and that was the worst part of it…it was so predictable and didn’t say anything new. This comic could have told a great story while still shaking cliche.
Oh lord, Prometheus…..
That’s bad news. I was looking forward to Prometheus. I heard it wrapped up the some questions from the first Alien movie.
Pretty much everything in the movie is derivative of Alien, Aliens and a whole bunch of other movies/plays. They’ve even got Close Encounters and King Lear in there…King Lear, for crying out loud.
And talk about a movie that made no sense. Characters were doing things that were totally contrary to what they’d been doing in the movie up until that point. Sometimes character motivations were just plain ol’ sketchy…without any real reason established for why characters were doing what they did. There were moments where bits of the dialogue that totally ignored world-creating things already established. Noomi Rapace has like, the worst day ever…and is seriously like a cat with nine lives. Oh, and the ending was just HORRIBLE!
But hey, it was big and splashy and entertaining, somewhat.
The movie gave me the sads because I kept thinking about how great it could have been.
She is cuuuuteee but a bad luck magnet! Worst day ever doesn’t even start to cover it but I admire the fact they portrayed such an epicly strong character, easily the strongest of the lot of them. and that other character whom I won’t spoil it by saying his/her name is scary as hell.
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