“But I Know It’s Not Real!” – Kids, Video Games and Guns

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  1. Kirsten (in MT) says:

    “there is no reason anyone not defending a full-on land war should be handling an AK-47.”

    Sure there are. They can be fun to shoot, and because free individuals don’t need permission to exercise their rights peacefully.

    • Ahaha. No. While I won’t say that guns themselves should be banned, you do realize that such a device is a weapon, right? I’m all for fun unless someone gets hurt, but letting such a dangerous thing out in public with so little regulation is far too dangerous. Some guns are fine (although, really, regulation should be upped considerably), hand guns and rifles I can understand. A full on weapon of war? There are people who will kill people regardless of gun regulation and laws, but for no reason should we make it easier for them by letting people buy a war machine without precaution. If people really want to shoot one, automatic weapons they can be kept at the firing range, under lock and key. Your rights to own a weapon don’t trump the rights of peoples peace and security.

      • In what way does ownership of a automatic rifle infringe upon your peace and security? That is your own personal fear and it is not the responsibility of anyone else to make you feel at ease. I do not fear people owning automatic rifles because I know that people who own them are generally very careful and responsible (look up firearm related (accidental discharge) deaths vs. total deaths. I actually feel safer when a private citizen is free to bear arms in public, how often do you hear of one of those crazy people shooting up a gun show or any other place with a large gun carrying population?

        As to purchasing a war machine? Anyone can make a pipe bomb, a cannon. Mount that cannon to a car, it’s a war machine, but anyone can make it, are you going to regulate purchase of gunpowder? sulfur? steel pipes? Many times when people speak of these issues, the fail to think through the consequences if their point of view succeeds. What type of regulation should be imposed on firearm ownership? What constitutes a weapon of war? Where does it end? Can you trust that no one will ever abuse “reasonable” gun control to limit our personal freedoms?

        As you said, people who want to kill others will do so regardless of access, but you say we should limit one of the most important rights to make it slightly more difficult for crazy people? That type of thinking is what allows the TSA to violate our right to no unreasonable searches.

        The 2nd amendment is the last line of defense to protect against government oppression of its population, which is looking more and more likely as all branches of law enforcement becomes more militarized. It is like having insurance, you never want to use it, but you want to have it anyways.

        Yes, preventable deaths and crazy shootings are a tragedy, but the moment we begin to give up our personal freedoms for an illusion of safety, then what is the point?

        • So the government is going to suddenly choose to turn into a totalitarian state and come bursting down your doors? What a laugh! Sacrifice personal freedoms? There is limits to everything. With freedom of speech it is illegal to provoke violence or threaten someone. The same thing with the second amendment. Look at Canada, for instance: stricter gun regulation, even after having a conservative government in power, and there proportionally less murders and casualties compared to the United States free-for-all. People in Canada and other Western countries are scared of traveling to the US precicely because of the rampant guns and paranoia. Know what? In most Western countries, no fears the government. They may dislike individual parties, but no one is scared of it. This anti-government belief in the US is nothing but a remnant of Cold War paranoia. Yes, the amendments are important, but if there were no limit to freedom, there would be nothing but anarchy. Everything needs limits.

    • Christopher Montealegre says:

      just what i was thinkin’!!

  2. I usually don’t comment to discussions online but felt I probably should to this one. I don’t know why anyone would think swords are some how less violent. It’s alot more close and personal running steel through someones chest standing face to face and feeling them as you do it than shooting them through the chest with a .308 round at 1000 meters…. just sayin. As for rifles being weapons, yes rifles are weapons and so is a pair of scissors. Everyone knows rifles, pistols, and guns are weapons.
    Assault rifles are generally rifles with smaller caliber rounds than that of traditional rifles and usually have a high mag capacity (they hold more bullets in a magazine) some are fully automatic. They are designed to be lighter (smaller rifle caliber bullets weigh less and can carry more in a pack) and used in short to medium range settings i.e. urban combat (the first assault rifles were designed for urban combat by the germans, funny enough the ak-47 you all keep mentioning was designed by a russian tanker to counter the german rifle too bad it came out in 1947… alittle late :p).
    There are machineguns which are fully automatic guns designed for suppressing an enemy (think m60 aka Rambos’ machine gun) and sub machine guns which are machine guns with pistol caliber rounds (think a thompson aka tommy gun aka chicago typewriter lol). Now a full auto assault rifle is not that easy to fire and is probably significantly less effective at producing casualties because it’s harder to control for somebody not practiced in shooting it. What it seems you don’t realize is it’s hard to obtain a fully automatic weapon as you need a permit and it’s hard to obtain one (well not that hard, but hard enough) so don’t think all assualt rifles are automatic in fact ak-47 and ak variants in the US are usually semi-automatic.
    Dude letting a kid play a violent video game is not training them to go out and get in firefights with people. It takes alot of thought, time, and real training to be proficient and deadly in that but it might give the kid false ideas about what real violence is and make him take real violence alot lighter than he should. I don’t think he’ll run out and kill anyone though.
    So basically I don’t think kids should play anything more violent than minecraft (beating a frankenstein with a pixelated sword until it turns into a puff of smoke is violent enough), it scares me that there are stupid, untrained, and potentially crazy people running around with firearms but the second amendment was put there to protect private citizens from government, both foreign and our own, and I don’t want the government taking my guns away lol. It’s a catch 22 whats ya gunna do?

  3. Ok the last part of my comment sounded alittle crazy and anit government. I don’t like the fact that other people have fire arms but I like owning them myself is what I meant by that. Yeah I’m a selfish butthead I know.

  4. This games are really intersting for every one

  5. wellokaythen says:

    Bravo for writing something that was so enjoyable to read, instead of what you often see written about video games: “vidya gamez RULEZ!!!!!!!!”

  6. OirishM says:

    Given that this seems to be turning into a debate on gun ownership, I must say I find the current debate in the US interesting. One side is blaming games, the other guns.

    I’ve never shot a gun in my life (can’t in the UK, or at least not anything I’d be interested in learning to shoot) but I am a gamer, and it’s annoying seeing the media/antis describe an entire group on the basis of the insane outliers. It’s certainly made me a lot more sympathetic towards the majority of sensible gun owners in the US. Perhaps both sides could stand to trust each other a little better.

  7. Nice article, very thought provoking and not at all what I was expecting.


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