“After a fire fight, we went out into the killing fields to count bodies. I’ll bet you think we counted bodies, don’t you?”

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  1. Dan Flowers says:

    I’m not sure what the point of this is… Are people supposed to write in as some type of catharsis? Just curious, what the positive is supposed to be here or if it is just some sort of liberal voyeuristic attempt to collect stories that illustrate the horrors of war?

    • America is the most powerful and warlike nation that has ever existed.

      America is also a democracy. If america’s leaders want to wage war then they need the consent of the population. This means that you have a duty to know what your soldiers are actually doing. So that you can decide weather the war is worth it.

      • Most warlike it is certainly not. The Mongols? Roman Empire? Or just about every country that was in a position to win a war say from 120 years ago and backwards throughout history.

  2. Hope your bro’s recovered as much as can be expected, man. And Dan? Keep your effing stick on the effing ice.

  3. Dan…I’d be a liar if I said that I didn’t lighten my load a bit in telling that story.However,it was impromtu,as evidenced by the crudeness of the arrangement.VN vets like my brother were perhaps the most hated of all veterans.My brother said,as soldiers do,he didn’t care that he wasn’t appreciated,I think he lied.Why else would he subsequently burn his uniforms and medals? I was a kid, 13 or 14 when I heard this story,I guess I needed to get it out.

  4. Dave…It was a long,but interesting ride.Being able to come home to an intact family to decompress,I think,was vital to his recovery.

  5. That was a great post! A good friend of mine was in ‘Nam’ in ‘Graves Registration’. That’s where your job is to create a complete body to send home. He told me it was mostly impossibe to accuratly match up body parts so they didn’t even try. Any combo of a head , torso, 2 arms and legs were put in 1 bodybag and shipped home as the remains. This young guy went there a typically happy teenager and came home something completely differentl! He didn’t have the good fortune your brother had of having family to vent to. What gets me is that the so called ‘Mental Health’ experts’ at the time blamed most of these PSTD on drug use. That wasn’t the cause, that was a way of dealing with it! Oh yeah, being ‘shit on’ by polite soceity upon your return didn’t help much either, no matter how many ‘Monuments’ they build 40 years after the fact!

  6. wellokaythen says:

    The man in this story was a very conscientious body-counter. Some of the stories I’ve heard about body counts were quite different.

    There were units who didn’t even bother to make an honest count but preferred to inflate the numbers, because sometimes the units with the highest enemy body counts got rewarded with extra leave. Now I’m thinking that these inflated numbers may not have been just self-serving, but maybe the goriness of the detail contributed to these inflated numbers, because they didn’t want to look too closely. Or, they counted each body part as a single person.

    As if the war wasn’t bad enough, men like your brother were also encouraged to treat every dead body as the body of an enemy. Over time the body counts distinguished less and less between combatants and bystanders.

  7. wellokthen…I am sure my brother because of the nature of that war, where military protocol was not always or necessarily enforced all the time, was in a fluid situation. He wanted to his younger brothers to know how crazy the expectations were and that we should grow up knowing the real cost of war.

  8. Dan Flowers says:

    Posted 3 times.

  9. Dan Flowers says:

    Can we say censorship?

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