Can men understand what women experience when they get objectified? These men can.
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It has been said that ‘Men are afraid women will laugh at them, and women are afraid men will kill them.’ How do you feel about this statement? In this episode our men discuss how they relate to women, adding a much needed male point of view to the discussion surrounding gender equality.
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It has been said that ‘Men are afraid women will laugh at them, and women are afraid men will kill them.’ How do you feel about this statement?
It’s a loaded statement meant to set a clear hierarchy of suffering that women have it worse than men. Thing is we know full well that men are afraid of more than just women laughing at them and idea that women are afraid men will kill them is a nugget of truth taken to genearlizing extremes.
That also calls into question the effects of bullying. Some people have killed themselves over bullying, shame, etc. If it’s not that bad then it shouldn’t be considered that bad in every situation not just in those where men are victimized by women. I also suspect that men are “laughed at” by women either in his presence or when he has left a lot more than women are killed by men.
Good point. Men are probably afraid to say they are afraid of being killed by women because of the “conventional wisdom” that women can’t kill men. Funny how the people claiming to be breaking the traditional gender roles keep relics like this around that just happen to serve the purpose of silencing men…
This is literally giving me life this morning! Thank you. Thank you Thank you!!!! The concept that we can have a “give/get” scenario versus a “shared experience” environment literally changes the world. Human dignity-ism at its finest. Contribute to the shared experience.
I think it amusing that the one guy didn’t bother calling out the cat caller until he realized the guy was car calling him. The problem wasn’t the cat calling, but his masculinity was threatened. He was quite content to be the white knight and protect the damsel in distress from the harasser by walking with her. That feeds right into his idea of masculinity, which is traditional masculinity to be clear. That begets the question of whether he’d call out a woman for cat calling. I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t call because he probably views it as a compliment… Read more »
I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t call because he probably views it as a compliment in support of traditional masculinity where a guys value is based on how many women he can “get” or she’s being empowered or some other code word to excuse female bad behavior (power imbalance as referenced in the discussion or what not). Pretty much. “That’s not the same thing” is probably what you’d get. Isn’t it interesting that men should be called out for cat calling women (or any sexist behavior) without hesitation but calling out women for cat calling men (or any sexist behavior) gets… Read more »
Warning: It’s a group of male feminists talking. That in itself is not necessarily bad except that 1. you get no discussion everyone is speaking from the same point of view and 2. it would be more illuminating if it were regular guys even if the moderator were a feminist. Those are the guys they are ultimately supposedly speaking to. There is some suspicion in certain sectors of the MRM that the target audience for feminist men is not non-feminist men, but women. Hey ladies, I’m a good guy. Typically none of them have cited a case where they were… Read more »
There is some suspicion in certain sectors of the MRM that the target audience for feminist men is not non-feminist men, but women. Hey ladies, I’m a good guy. Well yes. While certainly not all of them do this, a lot of feminist men use non feminist men as their fodder for getting the attention of women. Throw non feminist men under the by on about how terrible we are or how we must because against equality because we arent feminist. Or go on about how by being feminist they are what a “real man” is supposed to be. And… Read more »