I Lost a Job for Calling Out the Company’s Rape Apology

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  1. Richard Aubrey says:

    I guess you don’t have to be CBS/NBC/ABC to fuck up. I wonder how your late employer handled the Duke lax hoax. Does it go back that far?
    Point is, whether you have a dog in the fight–narrative satisfied by the Duke case–or you just like a little contrarian snark, or you’re a jock sniffer whose heroes can do no wrong–this case–it’s a really bad idea to speculate in advance of facts, especially if the supposed victim is so vulnerable.
    Let’s see…. NBC paid a considerable sum to Richard Jewell for fulfilling the libs’ wet dreams of a bomber, aka defamation of character. Perhaps your late employer has similarly deep pockets…?

  2. Ian MacIntyre says:

    Keep up the good work, chief.

  3. Mike Russo says:

    Keep fighting, this is horseshit. Put up a change.org petition. I’ll sign it. Obviously, both You (Dan) and this editor from Dallas have never been in that situation [having been raped], but, unlike you, she views it from a life of ignorant privilege like only an arrogant person that has had nothing bad ever happen to them could view it. Or, she has been raped before, and was conditioned to believe it was her fault, and thus all rape is the woman’s fault. Any situation where the choice is between arrogant, ignorant privilege and a form of brutal Stockholm’s Syndrome is no real choice at all.

    (Edit: It’s one thing to say that someone doesn’t know how it feels to be raped and then shamed for it but there is no reason to wish that someone be raped. NONE. – GMP Moderator)

  4. The Wet One says:

    Good luck and Godspeed!

    That’s a fine action on your part. I salute you.

  5. Commendable action on your part both in staying true to your word and in standing up for this girl. It’s nice to see people who aren’t afraid to back up their compassion and understanding for others.

  6. And this is why we shouldn’t report who they are in sexual assault cases until proven guilty, until then it’s a he-said she said situation and neither deserve to be put in a trial by media. It’s clear people have already made up their minds and are willing to throw him in jail but I think it’s best to save that hatred till after the incident is proven in a court of law. Do people consider that a rape apology? If so then KMA because innocent until proven guilty should be the norm. If he’s guilty, then report on it. The Duke case was a perfect example of tarnishing men’s reputation over allegations alone. I really wish media would STFU on such cases and let the courts handle it.

    • Joanna Schroeder says:

      Should that be true of all crimes?

      • Richard Aubrey says:

        Possibly. But, like child molestation, a rape accusation doesn’t go away with a “not guilty” verdict. Especially when it’s a he-said, she-said case. See William French Smith, generally seen as a rapist although acquitted.
        Other crimes…habeas corpus means you have to have a body to prosecute for murder, a thief not in possession of stolen items is not much of a case, a victim of an assault without injuries…., no witnesses….
        See the Duke lax rape hoax. Even though two of them could prove they were elsewhere at the time, they got the full ration of lib/feminist condemnation. Usually doesn’t happen wrt other crimes unless it’s a big-dollar financial scheme which is too complicated to follow and whose accuseds get the greedy bankster treatment from the prosecution instead.
        So maybe not for all crimes.

        • Exactly, in fact much of the feminist backlash to me seemed odd and seemed to go against any notion of believing in human rights. These guys weren’t even convicted yet suffered trial by media and bigname feminists like Amanda Marcotte put the hate on pretty bad.

          You can believe n support the victim without having to believe the accused are guilty, you can believe the victim was raped, you can believe someone raped them but it may or may not be the accused. But even so some degree of skeptical behaviour needs to be at play to ensure the accused gets a fair trial, chances of the victim lying may be slim but a slim chance isn’t worth jailing the innocent over. All people that accuse another of a crime must be ready to accept that we as a society have a duty to be skeptical of their story AND the story of the accused in order to find out the truth and to apply justice. Automatically believing everything the victim or the accused says is a bad idea.

      • Depends if those crimes have a significant effect on reputation. No one tends to give a damn if you steal 100bucks from the till, it’s annoying but if you rape someone there are many who will instantly dismiss you as a human. If you are accused of rape, there are PLENTY who will think you’re guilty straight away, the Duke Lacrosse scandal was a clear cut case of that prejudice at play for those men who weren’t given the benefit of the doubt. A lot of people didn’t think ok, maybe they’re innocent, maybe they’re guilty and we’ll leave it up to the courts to decide..no, People like Amanda Marcotte instantly went in for the kill. Ever seen that with other crimes like theft where it has the potential to fuck your life up?

        Someone accused of stealing may be trusted less n have to pay restitution but they won’t have parents pulling kids out of school if they teach there…

      • Possibly but there seems to be an exception made when it comes to rape.

        And what makes it an exception are the “believe the victim” crowd. This subset of people have it baked into their minds that if someone says they were raped then it MUST be true, acquittals, evidence to the otherwise, and proof of false accusation be damned.

        Even after Crystal Mangum’s story was shot full of holes by not just the accused but by a woman that was a friend of Mangum there was still a call from blood. This is not an isolated incident either. When it comes to rape people want it to be taken as a special exception for the sake of getting more convictions but when there is no conviction they suddenly want to treat it like “any other crime”. Oh, there’s evidence that that accuser is actually lying? All of a sudden they want to give the possible false accuser a presumption of innocence and benefit of the doubt that they previously had no problem denying the accused.

        Or better yet I’ve seen some (and I think this came up in a post here once) that actually think false rape accusers should not simply not be punished. And not because doing so may cause the victims of false accusers to languish in prison but because “it may scare other victims from coming forward”. Well if they wanted to treat it like any other crime then let’s treat it like insurance fraud. Does this mean that people that make false insurance claims shouldn’t be punished because it will scare people who actually need to claim their insurance from coming forward?

        If they want false accusations of rape to be treated like false accusations of any other crime then they are going to have to come to terms with rape being treated like any other crime but that ain’t happening anytime soon.

      • Mr Supertypo says:

        Other crimes have different dynamics, but rape or terrorism or pedo’s, uintil the investigation confirms the crime, both the accused and the accuser should remain secret, for their own sake.

  7. Surprised DA did not respond to piece, as breach of privacy for crime victim. NIMBYS should be banned as journalists. Have you heard of Amherst Suicide case? Young man raped by another male? Admin blew him off, and he ended his life. Will this media, and writer be liable if this victim does same?

  8. Witch hunts illegal in Texas?

  9. You’re wrong. There absolutely IS a reason to doubt the accuser. It’s called the “presumption of innocence.” Whenever a serious crime like this is alleged on a “he said she said” basis, the presumption of innocence REQUIRES that the lens of skepticism focus FIRST on the accuser’s story, not on the accused’s denial. THat should is rightfully where the focus of public attention should be too. Otherwise you wind up with lynch mob mentality and incidents like the Duke lacrosse debacle.

    I note that while you state that the accuser is “less than 17 years old” you fail to specify her age. 16? Cases takes on a different flavor then, doesn’t it?

  10. I have a hunch there’s more to this story….how much does Eatzi’s advertise on CultureMap? Is there any further relationship between Claire St. Amant and Romo’s Father? Was St. Amant at some time in her past falsely accused of rape? Or perhaps a son or brother? People aren’t generally so wildly impulsively speculative. There’s usually some deeply personal motivation behind such speculation.

  11. Until evidence is shown i’m skeptical of any accusation of a crime.
    No one should be found guilty of a crime based simply on a accusation, weather it’s by the courts or the public.

  12. Dan, independent of the she said/he said, you stood up for what you believed in and that’s the message I take from this piece. And that is commendable.

  13. I’ve been over this piece half a dozen times and read the associated sources to look at different angles – and I’m sorry but I just can’t go with The They Were Victim Blaming and I stood against them Hero Motife! .. and the I lost a job claim is crass!

    I get bemused as well with the way that some USA residents keep on shifting the goal posts in what would appear to be a hope that some would miss the issue.

    1st its Freedom of Speech and Freedom Of the Press – protect by any and all means

    then Suddenly it’s You can’t say that because we object! It’s that good old Double standard yet again! Nimby – NOT in My Blogging Yard and I will demand my first amendment rights to Blog and be damned as I damn you!

    Then you have that whole legal issue over something called Presumption of Innocence. So I do worry that with the whole rape is the only crime meme running riot across US centric net sources that eventually it will end up that a Journalist writing “There is a Rape Case and Presumption Of Innocence Applies” – well they will be screamed at and called apologist and rape loving scum becasue some have just decided that law and even social basics no longer apply when they hear the R ward. It’s almost Pavlovian, and I aint talking Meringue .

    I am bemused by the Gross and I mean Massive Anglophone Language Bias that exists around this rape meme – it either means that there is English Language Driver on the net and there is a bias and even error which is within only English Language Users – else those who are so convinced of their rectitude are so lazy they can’t be bother translating anything ( even with goggle translate ) to get the message out globally!

    It is even odder how in the US centric anglophone area the aggression and even abuse aimed at anyone accused of any form of sexual offence has escalated to an almost Wagnerian level. Mention a hidden little known rape case from a Backwater up a Bayou in the Boondocks and all hell break loose on a scale that exceeds reaction to Usama Bin Ladin and 9/11 – it’s that extreme.

    It’s not joke – if you raise the issue of Usama possibly being innocent and framed you get a less abusive and violent reaction than mentioning that in unknown and un reported rape cases it is possible that the accused is innocent – and you don’t even have to mention that it has been known for false accusations to be made! Pavlovian indeed.

    My betting is that some peeps have simply gone bonkers for rape and have forgotten how to be rational. It will probably get addressed when it has stopped being high fashion and media fashion. In the mean time it;s bizzare to see people doing anything buy any means to get on the band wagon and be seen as trendy. It’s unsettling and quite worrying for the future.

    But I do have to wonder why it’s such a US centric Anglophone issue when South Africa which is an English Speaking Country is recognised by the UN – Interpol and even the US Government as the Rape Capital Of The World. Sorry but if people were so worried and concerned, why is it NIMBY and not real?

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