What We Talk About When We Talk About Men: The Top 10 Issues of Men in 2014

 Men photo by simpleinsomnia

 

Men’s roles are changing almost faster than we can keep up with the change. Here are ten reasons that make the conversation about men so incredibly important. 

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1) Unrealistic and Stereotypical Portrayals of Men in the Media and the Culture

Tired of seeing dumb and deadbeat dads? Sick of every man on TV being a sex-obsessed womanizer? So are men. Men are often seen as incompetent, misogynistic, brutish slobs who only think about sex, beer and sports and have few other redeeming qualities. On the other end of the spectrum, however, is the superhero—the man who is financially successful, in perfect shape, rich, handsome, brilliant, athletic—the gold standard, and an almost impossible ideal. These epitomize the false choices of manhood—society constantly asks men to choose between being sensitive ninnies or hyper-aggressive bullies, financial providers for their families or absent fathers, “men of the house” or “pussy-whipped.” And so the “man-box” begins—the ways in which it is acceptable by our culture is narrow and limiting.

Where are the portrayals of the many men that are complex, kind, communicative, nurturing, able to be both warriors and poets as needed, able to love deeply and for the long term, with various levels of abilities about a whole host of things? We don’t know, but that’s almost every guy we do know at The Good Men Project.

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2) Raising Boys Today

Boys Jump photo by samnasimWhether you are raising boys as a parent, as an educator, or as a role model, there are few resources and agreed upon methods. What to do when boys are falling behind in school? Are boys being over-diagnosed with ADHD? How can we teach boys to respect not only women, but also other boys and themselves? How do we help with the challenges of boys of affected by racism? How do we have conversations with boys that let them know they can be victims of sexual assaults, an area that is seldom talked about? What about boys who are growing up outside the socially accepted gender spectrum? What about violence and aggression—how do we prevent things like bullying and school shootings? Do boys who are being raised by single moms or by two gay dads need more support than boys in traditional households? If so, what does that look like? Boys have unique challenges, and the past the two ways of raising boys were to either dismiss bad behavior with “boys will be boys” or to admonish boys for showing signs of weakness, particularly emotional weakness, with the phrase “be a man.” Where is the recognition that boys are complex creatures, with a range of needs, and that growing into a man is not a one-size fits all proposition?

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3) The Disposability of Men & Boys

Boy photo pierre torsetFrom the invisibility of boys who are being sex trafficked to men who are being exploited as cheap manual labor, there is something in our collective consciousness that treats men and boys as disposable. Men have historically been the first to war, the first into a burning building, the last to exit a sinking ship. Men are seen as the champions of economic progress and the ones who are there to put into place the infrastructure that drives our transportation and communication systems. Every year thousands of men die in the coalmines, railroads, sewers, satellite towers and other dangerous workplaces that are too often taken for granted.

What we think of as “progress” often comes with an enormous price tag for men and boys. A clear example of this is in the shipbreaking yards of Chittagong. Cruise ships, ocean liners, freighters get pulled up on a beach and the most impoverished men and boys in the surrounding community break them down with mallets and bats. This is where ships go to die; it’s where men and boys do, too.

Men and boys are also the invisible victims of rape and sexual assault. There is no clear language, few outlets for them to talk about it, and an often society-driven reluctance for them to come forward.

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photo by oabe

4) Parenting, Stay-At-Home Dads and Paternity Leave

While times are changing and stereotypes along with them, there are many places where moms are still seen as the default parent, the one who is more “natural” at the act of parenting and caring for children. Dads are clearly present in the lives of their children, but Stay-At-Home-Dads are all too often seen as slackers or losers, when nothing could be further from the truth. They are there for their children because they want to be a part of their children’s lives. Men—even men with money and status and privilege—cannot take paternity leave without it being questioned. The role of active, engaged fathers should be coveted. That is not going to happen if men are only seen as financial providers who are incapable of nurturing.

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5) The Prison Industrial Complex

The prison system affects men disproportionately, and we don’t talk about it nearly enough. Does the prison system work to create people who are better humans than they were before they went in? How does a man change while inside? Are men and women given equal sentences for equal crimes? What role does mental illness play in those who commit crimes and are imprisoned? What it is like for kids who have a parent in prison? How difficult is it for guys who are trying to parent their children from prison? What impact is the school-to-prison pipeline having on our nation’s boys? And how do we work towards better understanding how violence and aggression lead to the most horrific of crimes so we can prevent them from occurring? The answers to questions like these will bring about change, and change is needed to solve the societal impact of crime and punishment in the 21st century and its effect on men.

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6) The LGBT Movement and Gender and Sexual Fluidity

photo by _airrunFor all the strides that the LGBT movement has made, it’s still difficult to be a man and to fall outside the gender and sexual norms. There is still real homophobia, transphobia and gay-bashing. Why? What is it about the perception of what a “real” man is that allows those to occur? On the flip side, men of all kinds are becoming more vocal and more supportive of the entire gender spectrum. How long will it take for all types of gender and sexual expression to be seen as “normal?” We are now seeing many stories of same sex families with grown children who seem to have turned out just fine, thank you. We are heartened by the speed at which LGBT rights have made progress, but the work is far from over.

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relationships photo by rocketboom and ratha

7) Relationships of Every Kind

When people think of men and relationships, the first thing that comes to mind is sexual relationships. But the truth is, men are just as interested in and committed to a host of other kinds of relationships. Male friendships, fathers and their sons, sons and their fathers. Long term committed relationships between loving partners. Familial relationships of all kinds. Platonic friendships. Work relationships. Friendships between gay and straight men that go beyond stereotypes. Men loving their children with their whole heart and soul. ALL of those relationships are part of the psyche of today’s man, and all are relationships they care about. After all, a loving relationship with any other human being is a sign of strength.

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8) Sports as a Lens of Culture and Masculinity

jackie robinson apSports has typically been the domain of men—not that women aren’t wonderful athletes and fierce competitors, but it’s inarguable that men on average have been faster, stronger, more powerful. Sports highlight so many positive aspects of traditional masculinity—strength and power, after all, is wonderful when used for good. Sports icons are our heroes; they are beautiful, golden boys, idolized. But all sides of masculinity come out in the world of sports—bullying, power struggles, homophobia, and sexual abuse. The difficulties of parenting (or taking paternity leave) when you have a high-profile, high-paying job—and people depend on you for their sports fix. The high incidence of concussions in the NFL leads to discussions about mental health. Covering up of sexual abuse so that sports heroes can keep playing affects everyone. The conversation about men and sports ends up being a conversation about men, however you look at it.

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9) The Young and the Old, the Strong and the Weak

Men who are old and men who are young don’t fit into the two biggest parameters of idealized masculinity— older men are seen as weak and feeble while younger men are not yet financially successful.

But beyond age, there are other forms of societally defined weakness that keep men out of the traditional man-box. If you are not able-bodied—i.e. if you are disabled in some way, weakened by injury or disease, or suffering from mental illness—you are told to “man up” and “take it like a man.” Or worse, you are simply excluded, rendered invisible, somehow excluded from the boys club. It may be reasons why body-image problems are becoming increasingly in the realm of the masculine. A quest for perfection of the physical body is a way to prove strength and prove manhood.

Granting men permission to be whatever they are—young, old, weak, strong, able, physically challenged, happy, depressed—is not a just part of manhood. It’s a part of life in the 21st century.

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What do you think? What are we missing? 

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Photo credits:  [Main] simple insomnia / flicker — [boys jumping] samnas — [disposability] Courtesy of photographer Pierre Torset — [father and son] oabe / flickr —[prison] chris miller 513 / flickr — [young man] _airrun / flickr —-  [relationships] parker knight and ratha / flickr — [Jackie Robinson and friends] AP file photo 1951 — [hands] oregondot / flickr — [future] hatwoman / flickr

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  1. It would be fantastic to get a shout-out to trans men in particular. We are almost without exception subsumed so completely into larger categories that we become invisible, because our identity is not the default. News articles will seamlessly switch between ‘transgender’ and ‘trans woman’, erasing us and our issues completely. The same goes for nonspecific paragraphs on gender and sexuality. Who do you think readers will be picturing: a gay man (or feminine man), or a trans man?

    • Lisa Hickey says:

      Hi Tobias,

      Thanks for your comment. In fact, the day we launched we had an article by a trans man, one of our Senior Editors was trans, and we’ve had numerous contributors who have written specifically about the untold lives of trans men. We will certainly continue to have more in the future.

      • Joanna Schroeder says:

        JJ and I have been emailing with Tobias, and we’re working on fun projects together because of htis comment! Tobias is awesome ;)

      • Thank you for the response, Lisa. I’ve been reading the GMP for quite a while, and I appreciate the coverage of – and work by – trans men that’s hosted here. I hope my comment didn’t alarm you – I was only pointing out one small thing in a single paragraph that I would have written differently.

        Also, it’s true the Joanna and I have been talking. What about…I guess you’ll see that later. ;)

  2. Well articulated article sirs! But we must realize, as men in this patriarchal and heirarchal world, that we are not victims of anything or anyone else other than ourselves. If we strive to address the disease and not the symptoms, we’ll fix these issues of identity men are suffering with in modern society. And to be clear, I believe Patriarchy is the disease. Inclusive humanism is the cure. Love your website! :)

    • John Anderson says:

      @ J G

      “not victims of anything or anyone else other than ourselves”

      Funny how it always comes down to men are the bad guys as if women don’t enforce gender norms. Men can never truly be victims. Sounds like traditional masculinity to me. The first thing we need to do to establish an “inclusive society” is to reject this very notion.

      • Oh you know the drill, “We need to be inclusive of everyone and do something about this horribly oppressive system that hurts everyone…..except for men because they did their harms to themselves.”

        That would explain why when talking about male victims of rape/abuse there is often a knee jerk, “But most abuse/rape of males is done by other males.” as if that somehow means those male victims shouldn’t get help.

        • John Anderson says:

          “That would explain why when talking about male victims of rape/abuse there is often a knee jerk, “But most abuse/rape of males is done by other males.” as if that somehow means those male victims shouldn’t get help.”

          And worse, it’s also incorrect. Most men aren’t raped by other men, but that never seems to stop some from asserting it.

          • “as men in this patriarchal and heirarchal world” I hope you intended to include ‘matriarchal’ in that sentence! Matriarchy is just as real as patriarchy and in my view just as damaging. For example, part of the reason why men were packed off to die in their millions in wars could be attributed to women. During WWI, women would label men who were unable or unwilling to fight as cowards and presented them in public with white feathers thereby pressuring men to sacrifice their lives whether they wanted to or not. And you can imagine the amount of mothers telling their sons to ‘be a man’ and lay down his life. If that isn’t clear evidence of matriarchy then I don’t know what is.

            • Wes Carr says:

              And ironically, those upper class women who passed out the feathers were allowed to vote while the working class men they gave them to were not. They also gave the feathers to boys as young as 15 who lied about their age so they could enlist. When you add up wars, work related accidents, heart attacks and suicides men still do most of the dying.

    • CitymanMichael says:

      We do not live in a patriarchal world – never have.

    • Michael Rowe says:

      Forgive me, JG, but that’s absolute crap. There is, and always has been, a collusion in society between men and women to maintain many, many, many inflexible gender roles—with inevitable outcomes. The notion that men are exclusively victims of their own “patriarchy” is almost unbearably myopic, and smacks of non-critical thinking and spoon-feeding of warmed-over feminist dogma with nothing remotely to do with the reality of men’s lives.

  3. Mark Greene says:

    Thanks.

  4. John Anderson says:

    It’s not just “Unrealistic and Stereotypical Portrayals of Men in the Media and the Culture” there is a societal perception of men that is stereotypical. Schrödinger’s Rapist which suggests that all men are dangerous. Assume the worst until proven otherwise. The belief that to be masculine is to be strong, which causes society to turn a blind eye to men’s suffering and is used to justify with holding assistance from men in need.

    There is an issue of bodily integrity for men, which may be a subset of male disposability. Infant circumcision is seen as OK as long as the infant is a boy. This even holds true for the ceremonial nick, which if I understand correctly is significantly less traunatic and not permanent. This also leads to society determining that women / girls are not in need of consent education.

    Reproductive justice, after a woman gets impregnated, the man has no say in whether he becomes a father or not even in cases were he may have been raped. Laws need to change to be more fair.

    • Reproductive law should protect each individual in order for that individual to make decisions about their reproductive capabilites without outside interference. Period. No one should have, by law, the right to dictate what another person does with their reproductive capabilities.

      I understand that this is strick logic and doesn’t afford room for emotions, but the law shouldnt’ be involving itself with the emotions of others.

      • John Anderson says:

        I agree that reproductive justice is tricky. I don’t know where lying about birth control use / infertility, sabotaging condoms, or sperm theft would lie on the criminality chart. I also realize that we should never have a totally equal situation when it comes to reproduction. The totally equal situation being a ban on abortion meaning neither person has a choice. This should never be the case because it abridges a woman’s right to bodily autonomy. I think we can be more fair by not requiring the father to be legally responsible for a child he does not wish to have. That simple step may also dissuade a woman from trying to “trap” a man and could address some of the previously mentioned situations.

      • There should be no laws whatsoever regulating, approving, or otherwise granting permission for anything of a personal nature.

        People should not have to obtain marriage licenses. Nor should they need the approval of any State or Municipal government to marry. If they want to be poly, so be it. If they want polygamous marriages, so be it. Gay marriages, so be it.

        Just because we have a tax code and benefits tied to marry does mean crap. I say it is way past the time to undo a lot of these silly laws and rules.

        As President Reagan said, “Government is not the answer. Government is the problem!”

    • Adam Blanch says:

      Reproductive Justice? We know what causes pregnancy, and it’s pretty easy for a man to prevent it. Men get to choose at the outset, and if they fail to do that then they have to live with the consequences of their failure. You bring a child into this world and you are responsible for it’s well being. You can’t be the victim if you willingly participated in the activity and didn’t bother to safeguard yourself or got yourself too drunk to care. Having sex without contraception is a bit like climbing a cliff without a rope, You have no one but yourself to blame on the way down.

      It’s not about reproductive justice but reproductive education and responsibility.

      • john Anderson says:

        @ Adam Blanch

        “You bring a child into this world and you are responsible for it’s well being. ”

        But he didn’t bring it into the world. He fertilized an egg. You can’t call it a zygote for purposes of allowing women to have an abortion and a child for purposes of forcing men to pay child support. Let’s be clear. She brought the child into the world.

        “Men get to choose at the outset, and if they fail to do that then they have to live with the consequences of their failure. ”

        First, not all men do, but you’ll never hear exemption for rape or incest mentioned when talking about child support payments. If your talking solely consensual, women have more options than men even at the onset. They have a myriad selection of contraceptives. Men essentially have 1, the condom. If she claims to be taking contraceptives and a man trusts her, how is he to blame? The last point is, if we’re talking about justice, justice is the philosophy that people will be treated fairly. There is an implication that this fair treatment includes a provision for roughly equal treatment. So how does a woman having the right to abort and a man being stuck with her decision square with the idea of equal treatment?

        • Adam Blanch says:

          Newsflash. Women lie too, be careful where you point your thing. Saying that fertilising the egg is not the same as bringing a child into the world is like saying that aiming the gun and pulling the trigger doesn’t make you responsible for the bullet killing the person you were aiming at. I’m all for equality John (and not the feminist faux version of it), but that starts with the equal right to take responsibility for the consequences of your actions (ergo not the feminist faux version).

          • Adoginthenight says:

            Hi Adam

            Your gun analogy doesn’t work because women can control whether or not they start a family when there is no consensual father after conception.

            Also the true feminist position was that giving men legal paternal surrender was the logical progression from giving women abortion – it was faux feminists that took it off the table. So assuming you support womens right to chose – your position is advocating that women are liberated, and men stay stuck with traditional roles.

            “”If women have the right to choose if they become
            parents, men [should] have that right too. There is a
            connection between legalizing abortion for women
            and ending of paternity suits for men. Giving men their
            own choices would not deny choices to women.
            It would only eliminate their expectation
            of having those choices financed by men.”

            “”Justice therefore dictates that if a woman
            makes a unilateral decision to bring pregnancy to
            term, and the biological father does not, and
            cannot, share in this decision, he should not be liable
            for 21 years of support. Or, put another way,
            autonomous women making independent decisions
            about their lives should not expect men to
            finance their choice.”

            Karen Decrow.

          • John Anderson says:

            @ Adam Blanch

            “Newsflash. Women lie too, be careful where you point your thing. Saying that fertilising the egg is not the same as bringing a child into the world is like saying that aiming the gun and pulling the trigger doesn’t make you responsible for the bullet killing the person you were aiming at. I’m all for equality John”

            The thing is the man is no more responsible than the woman and possibly less so equality demands that either abortion be banned or that men be held accountable for what they actually did, fertilize an egg. You can’t call it a zygote for purposes of determining abortion rights and a child for purposes of determining child support.

            If you consider it a zygote if the man didn’t want the kid, the man should be responsible for paying the woman the cost of getting an abortion and a reasonable amount for the trouble she would have had to go through to get one.

  5. More males should strive to be better people. To be real men, worthy of respect. I, myself, am the good woman so many males say they wish to find. Yet, the encounters with males on a personal, professional, romantic basis have been bad. I decided to stop interacting with males unless absolutely necessary so I can continue to love males as fellow beings, to continue to believe there truly are real men who are worthy of honor. Men who will not use women, will honor their marriage vows, will strive to do the right thing, successfully.

    • Joanna Schroeder says:

      I will put in the note that more females should strive to be better people too.

      We should all strive to be better people. The world is populated with good people, and we’d like to shine a spotlight on those folks.

      • Mostly_123 says:

        “More males should strive to be better people.”

        Personally, in my opinion-
        I think that by looking at it as trying to be a ‘better male’ or a ‘better female’ is missing a big part of the point- I don’t want to be a better ‘male'; I want to be a better person- one who happens to be male: There’s a world of difference in there. I’d rather transcend stereotypes than just polish the newest collection of ones other people attribute rightly or wrongly to me. No one person can be ‘males’ or be ‘females’ or any other plural – they can only be one person: The one who is them-self. The quest to be a better person is one of the most individualistic and intimate things any soul will ever undertake- it’s personal journey, not a collective political act. It is not a question of ‘Am I to be, or should I be, my brother’s keeper? – The question is moot: I cannot be either my brother’s keeper nor my sister’s keeper- simply because a real person cannot be sibling to a metaphor. 

        If a person sees their actions (good or bad) a merely an extension of their ‘own’ ‘collective’ (which, when you get down to it, are arbitrary constructs) there’s no personal achievement, no individual culpability, no merit or fault; no personal growth. I could be the most saintly or the most sinful person in the world; but wherever my journey takes me, what does that really say about anyone (or everyone) else who shares my gender, race, class, faith, ideology, philosophy, etc? Nothing. But that same journey says everything about me; because it’s mine- not somebody else’s collection of stereotypes. Symbols and examples aren’t real people; they’re just notions of somebody else’s idea of what a real person is, who is not them.

        My own idea of better person is one who doesn’t define & view everything and everyone in this world (including themselves) as part of absolute dichotomies, monolithic collectives, and ideological fallacies. The only thing that’s truly absolute in this world is the diversity and the tenuousness.  

      • Adam Blanch says:

        I’m confused Joanna. You are the managing editor so this piece must have gone through you, and it speaks eloquently about male disposibility, yet in a previous comment you refused to ‘speak’ to someone who mentioned Warren Farrell, the man who coined the term and tried to draw attention to it 30 years ago. What Gives?

        PS. Congratulations on this site no longer censoring people’s opinions (or so it appears) – now it’s a real conversation.

    • Adam Blanch says:

      Grow up Brenda, Pollyanna was a children’s tale and not a good thing on which to base your expectations of the world. People are a mixed bag. Women cheat, women lie and women abuse in about equal rates to men. Your knee jerk reaction against men because you’ve had some bad experiences (welcome to the human race) says more about your lack of maturity than it does about men.

  6. jeff kelley says:

    its about time that someone stood up for men . I can tell you that its not easy to try and help in anything when most of the women look at you like your only going to screw things up . Where i work im looked down on just because im a man first then also im from the u s . i live in canada. Alot of the women i work with think that men are useless . The part that upsets me the most is that these women dont even know men . I also tryed to get into a field that would take care of kids. the women that ran the classes i took thought that i could not do it because they think that me are not nurturers. i love kids . what we need more of is people that will look past and let people be people. please keep writing more

    • Misandry is the name for what you’re describing, Jeff. GMP is a good website, but they shy away from the M word for some reason…fear of being politically incorrect? Item #1 comes close to the issue without actually engaging it.

  7. Yep. I have to agree with all of these. Some I have personal experience with and others I do not. We men are human so we have issues and we take issue. What is great here is that with the help of GMP we have a voice and it is getting louder. Globally, when men come together with one banner we can and will become game changers for ourselves and for others. The more we speak to the issues the more will flock to the banner to help this worked be a better place for young and old, rich and poor, men, women and children of all race, colors and creeds.

  8. An excellent rundown. As for what we might be missing: I believe there is tectonic activity between the legacy of second-wave feminism and the ideal of universal human dignity. An earthquake is a-comin’, and I don’t want to be the seismologist who failed to report my findings due to fear of institutional reprisal.

  9. Great list of issues for men, about men, about what it means to be a man or even masculine ! Think Will Conley in the last comment and Dr Norris’s comment lay the ground. The fact that is blog series is here and functioning. Giving voice to men and women of all genders is a monumental shift in conversations.

    Men our voices need to be heard, our actions need to be seen, or lives have to be public sources of “enlightenment” so the world can be the change we wish to see.

    I just recently joined the writing/blogging team here. I am looking forward to using my voice, my experience to stir the imaginations.

  10. Great article, and I was pleasantly surprised.
    I still see problems (reflected in the avoidance of being blunt, using certain words, like misandry and in the comments section from people that really do seem to miss the point)

    Too often I see GMP cited in support of misguided things, and a seeming willingness to support ideas like “don’t be that guy” which can ONLY be defended as “teaching people about consent” in which case gender neutral language would serve the purpose without alienating men. (as a very obvious interpretation is, as detailed by another person here, Schrodinger’s rapist, “all men are potential rapists” which is the very misandry that should be fought against by anyone genuinely interested in equality and fairness)

  11. John Anderson says:

    People talk about feminism and argue the meaning of feminism. Others point to a dictionary definition. Yet, one of the big things never discussed is the meaning of equality. What does believe in the equality of the sexes mean? One of the problems non-feminists have with the movement is this concept of privilege. The concept of privilege seems to have been introduced to justify treating people unequally. The concept based on my understanding is that if one person is at a societal disadvantage because of an unwritten social norm, society must compensate with codified advantage.

    To make things more complex, we have the denial of privilege. Although I’ve seen a few feminists acknowledge that “benevolent sexism” is female privilege, the concept has not been embraced by the vast majority of feminists. It seems this is intended to maintain the advantages that women have over men, which would appear to be counter to equality.

    Now add biological differences to make “equality” an even more difficult concept to quantify. When it comes to reproductive rights, the majority of feminists would view women’s veto power over men (ie abortion) as a biological difference not requiring any special protections for men, but when domestic violence is looked at or even participation in sports, men’s biological difference in size and strength must be factored in and women must be given special societal protections, guaranteed participation in sports, etc.

  12. wellokaythen says:

    Damn good list. It’s a shame that such a list no doubt feels radical or revolutionary or threatening to many people, when it just makes obvious sense to me.

    I would expand #4 a little bit to include larger questions of family rights and reproductive rights. SAHD’s have their own specific and incredibly important needs, while there are also even broader issues at stake:

    The ways that society treats fatherhood (and parenthood) in general.
    The way that divorce proceedings affect fathers
    Paternal reproductive rights, child custody rights, and adoption rights
    Pronatalism and its pressures on men
    Birth control, sex education, and abortion, in relationship to men

    • This is really where the rubber meets the road, as far as a lot of men are concerned.

      For one current example, google CHRIS MACKNEY. You don’t find GMP covering this story…or others like it. But they feature blogs about professional wrestling fandom (the very definition of a trivial subject) all the time.

      Why is that?

      • wellokaythen says:

        I bet if you wrote up a piece on Chris Mackney the editors would consider it if it were written half-decently. I doubt the GMP editors are suppressing the story, they just haven’t gotten any submissions on it. If there’s something you want to see on the GMP, I recommend you try submitting something.

  13. What are you missing? Father’s rights. The divorce rate is still enormous and men are still, mostly, getting the shaft. How can we hope to make any progress when a site like yours doesn’t even acknowledge the issue?

  14. Peter Linton says:

    “What do you think? What are we missing?”
    No mention of men wishing to transcend themselves outside a career goal.

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