Is a College Education Overrated?

Is Generation Y wasting their time, going to college and occupying Wall Street?

This was previously published on Student Loan CPA.

From a Generation Y finance/career perspective, Occupy Wall Street is objectively definable as what happens when the smartest people in the world let someone else think for them. What I am about to tell you can change your life if you open up your mind to it; it has definitely changed mine.

[FYI this is not a political article, so please don't engage me on that level.]

What happened?

 Some research says we are dumb.

To put it simply and politely, the world changed right under our noses. To be blunt, the smartest people on the planet completely missed the most dramatic changes the world has seen in centuries. Look it up, and you’ll find that every generation is smarter than the previous—this is a fact. Each succeeding generation has access to more knowledge and technology, and faces more global competition because talent is more mobile.   Generation Y is supposed to be really smart because of the internet; we have access to so much more information, but clearly we spend almost all of it on bloggers like Perez Hilton and Nik Richie.

Mostly, we let our parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, teachers, professors, etc direct us into career and educational choices that worked great 20-40 years ago. They either tell us what [in retrospect] worked for the most successful peers they have (usually “go to college”), or they tell us what they wish they did (usually “go to college”). It never dawns on us that college might not be good for us individually if everybody is doing it!

Even today we get statistics about how people who went to college make more over a lifetime than those who didn’t—but we never ask who was surveyed to reach that conclusion. How many people under 30? Probably none because they’d have to use people who have worked for a long period already. What decisions did those people make after college? We seem to think that by age 22, the most important driver of lifetime income has taken place … how smart does that sound now?

Salary is one thing, but what about standard of living? Did they factor in student loans? Probably not. Thirty years ago, college was dirt cheap and today’s “low-wage” labor jobs paid enough for people to be self-supporting without working more than part-time. This is no longer true, of course. Thirty years ago, most middle class families could pay out of pocket for their children’s education … not anymore. The house we thought was a mansion turns out to have been built on a wobbly, rotten foundation. Education is no longer the magic bullet … I use college as an example, because even President Obama talks about a college education like the pill that cures all financial ills … which it no longer is.

Yes, the same generation that grew up “Googling” things, doesn’t realize that the mere ability to spew back facts (that are Google-able) can’t possibly be worth much money. The kids that have email [pen, Youtube, FB] pals from all over the world who proficiently read and write the same language as they (usually English) failed to realize that global outsourcing to regions of cheaper labor is inevitable.

The generation of instant messaging and video conferencing never realized that even doctors (stereotypically well paid) can serve patients across borders with the same technology. In fact today, companies like GE (don’t quote me on this one) are working on technologies that will allow doctors to serve remote regions. In my opinion, these same technologies will be used so that highly qualified doctors in regions of lower medical cost like Europe & Asia can remotely serve us. Do you need any more examples? The most “informed” generation in the world continues to close its eyes to the continuous devaluation of the college degree. Maybe we are just dumb?

I sympathize with all Generation Y Occupiers because I suffer similarly. I recognize that many entities (governmental, educational institutions etc) played a part in the state of the global economy, but it doesn’t matter because they also do in good times. The lesson here is that in a capitalist society,we are responsible for looking out for ourselves both in an unchanging environment, and in a changing environment. We should therefore protect our long-term financial interests early by planning with the future in mind. A good place to start is to ignore our parents and their peers, whose success occurred in the past. If nobody had ever given you anecdotal evidence about the income or social status of certain careers or colleges, what choices would you have made based on today’s economy? Don’t you wish you had spent more time reading articles like this one, and less time on Facebook and Youtube? I do.

It is therefore my opinion that Generation Y Occupiers are people who lacked (or ignored) relevant, competitive financial/career information. Someone told them that if they did ABC they would get XYZ, but that information was severely outdated. Most of us desperately rely on our careers as a source of income, and our education as a primer for that. Let’s open our eyes before it’s too late.

Now that you know, what will you do about your situation? What are your own thoughts?

 

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About Albert Okagbue

Albert is a licensed Certified Public Accountant and a Financial Strategist.  His mission is to deconstruct the world of money, and teach people how to accumulate more of it, faster.  He writes Studentloancpa.com and is a consultant to an exclusive client-base of professionals.  Although his writing reflects his financial training and ongoing research, he also seeks to explore the many ways money intersects with manhood and culture.  You can catch him in the comments section or on Twitter @Studentloancpa.

Comments

  1. Bryan Conlon says:

    “FYI this is not a political article, so please don’t engage me on that level.”

    If you don’t think this article is political, then I don’t think you quite understand what politics actually is.

  2. AF says:

    What are you supposed to do instead of getting a degree? I understand that college is overpriced and student loans can ruin your life, but is sticking with a GED and working at a low-paying service job for the rest of your life with little hope of advancement really better? I’m all for giving much more thought about what school you choose to attend and how you finance it, but I’m not at the point where I think college is a waste of time and money.

    • “What are you supposed to do instead of getting a degree?”

      You’re supposed to grow up and take responsibility for your life. This way when your decisions work you can take the credit. When they fail, you’ll have nobody to blame but yourself – which means you can fix it. This is what empowerment sounds like.

      It seems that you’re so worried about money that you might enslave yourself. College educated people might have a “hope of advancement” – but the reality is much different for most. The economy never promises advancement to ANYONE, and your “hope” is based on past realities.

      How much does it cost to wash a car? How long does it take? Do the math and you’ll realize why so many American millionaires are blue collar folks. This trend continues because folks like you think the only way to make money is through college. What happened to just being really good at what you do?

      • AF says:

        So you’re saying that everyone should take blue collar jobs and be the best at washing cars? I don’t think that’s realistic. Especially in the recession, your chances of being unemployed go down drastically with increasing levels of education. Furthermore, the “past realities” still work for some sectors, ie STEM fields.

        I do agree that the college system needs fixing, but you haven’t really proposed a viable alternative. Would you have been able to become a financial consultant without your degree and the fact that you come from a highly educated family? People can grow up and take responsibility for their lives and still go to college. They can even do it in college, which is what I hope I’m achieving.

        • “So you’re saying that everyone should take blue collar jobs and be the best at washing cars?” Nope. I’ll have to write another article about what I think people should do. Maybe if you answer the question at the end of the article, I’ll write something you can use?

          Notice how you don’t talk about college education without correlating it to employment? Correlation in past statistical data does not imply causation. Just because there are 1,000 graduates doesn’t mean there will be 1,000 jobs. Your chance of being unemployed does NOT go down with more education if everyone else is also going to more school. Sorry, but whomever told you that misunderstands how statistics work in real life.

          If you really wanted a bullet-proof profession, you’d become a truck driver or a welder. Those professions have guaranteed turnover because most old people can’t handle them. Teaching, Accounting, etc are not the same. As boomers age, physical careers open up wide, but office careers shut.

          As for your comment about me…you forget that most people who give financial advice don’t have my level of education. How many of the top financial blogs or best selling books do you think were written by CPAs? Not many. I got my education because I am interested in an area of knowledge. Money may or may not come from it. I am continuing my family’s legacy as people who learn and teach. How I get paid has little to do with that.

        • Alessio Tummolillo says:

          Reasonable alternative? Cut spending from areas of Government (i.e. Military) organizations, completely get rid of some Government organizations (research would need to be done here to find the ones that are pointless and still getting money) and reinvest it in making State Universities free. Public High School is free, why shouldn’t Public University be free?

          You should NOT have to pay for quality Education.

          • Alessio I would agree with you. At a minimum you are not crazy.

            The availability of federal student loans and other subsidies is proof that this country values education. Just not enough to make it free for the students themselves….

        • Alice says:

          @AF

          What’s wrong with blue collar jobs? They are an opportunity to make good money. It doesn’t have to washing cars, I hope you were being sarcastic. There are mechanics, plumbers, electricians etc who make GOOD money while many college grads are flipping burgers.

          Theres also the option of being an entrepreneur.
          Some people start at the bottom of a company and work their way up.

          I dont agree with dumping money into universities. Flat out a lot of time they are a waste of time. I think it would be better to invest more in apprenticeship programs and tech fields. What people need are 2 year programs not 4 year programs that waste time.

  3. Trevor Behrens says:

    How you say that others are trying to choose our career paths is something that I think many students can really relate to. Being a college student I remember how everyone always had their input on what I should go to school for. When really they should have no say in it. Also how you said that they are not factoring in how back in the day college was dirt cheap and parents could pay for their kids education…Right on! People really do not understand the affects that student loans have on them later on in life and that it really does seem like we are wasting our time!

    • Thanks Trevor. Anyone truly living in this reality will know it’s messed up. First let’s realize that it’s messed up. AFTER that, we can figure out how to fix it. AF above seems to be in denial – unless I’m reading him wrong.

  4. Greg says:

    Good thoughts! The internet information age has been an eye-opener for for many old school businesses; traditional news print , video stores, music industry, big box retailers to name a few. Same will happen for the old school college education. As you implied, I can Google anything covered in college for free so why pay for it. The stuff I learned in college many years ago wouldn’t fill a small notebook (and I’m not talking Apple Notebook). On the other hand, which would you rather have, a college diploma or Apple notebook with high speed internet?

    • On the other hand, which would you rather have, a college diploma or Apple notebook with high speed internet?

      Man, let’s just say I wouldn’t take the Diploma if I couldn’t get the notebook afterwards. What’s a college degree worth anyways?

      (If you look at my biography though, you’ll see that college is a commodity in my family. Some families vote Republican; mine reads and writes books.)

      My concern is that this conventional wisdom is like every other bubble. Once everyone agrees that a stock is valuable, they bid it up to the point where it’s no longer worth the price. I think we’ve done this to a college education.

      • chuck says:

        “My concern is that this conventional wisdom is like every other bubble. Once everyone agrees that a stock is valuable, they bid it up to the point where it’s no longer worth the price. I think we’ve done this to a college education.”

        I presume you’re referring to perceived value and not the actual price of a college education, correct? I only ask because I think it could be argued that the chorus of voices touting a college degree as requisite first step in a career, thereby justifying exorbitant-and-rising tuition fees, can generally be breadcrumbed back to those who stand to gain the most from the arrangement.

        In other words, less “irrational exuberance” on the part of a general class of “investors” (student-consumers), more Jim Cramer-style price pumping.

        • “I presume you’re referring to perceived value and not the actual price of a college education, correct?”

          Yes. Perceived value. If college were treated appropriately as an investment, then it wouldn’t be worth having at any price. People would then go less often as the price went up. Maybe this is an American thing because even INVESTORS make the same mistake….hmm….continuing with the investing analogy, maybe everyone is so afraid to be left behind that they go to college without thinking much about it? Then they graduate and have no choice but to face reality? Parents have to accept that their kids will move back home…

  5. Alessio Tummolillo says:

    Great article.

    So many thoughts on this topic. Basically, I feel that if you want to go the college route, you have to go the Masters route as well, because just a B.A. isn’t going to get you anywhere anymore (unless you want to be a teacher, especially Math and Science). Otherwise, you might as well start getting experience out of High School for what you’re passionate about doing.

  6. Jean Brandt says:

    The thing about college is that if everyone does it and is great in their field, law of supply and demand says that available positions will be scarce. I go to college to learn things I enjoy learning, not to get a degree, because that doesn’t guarantee a successful career. Look at Steve Jobs, he never finished college (gods rest his soul). I have ideas and I have vision, and while they were shaped in the environment I matured in, they are new and radical and not going to be accepted by the mainstream. So I am going to go private, start my own organization, and use what I have (which no one else can give or take from me) to make a difference. I’m not into earning a lot of money or acquiring a lot of possessions, but I want to promote things with real value: love, creativity, conflict resolution, and higher consciousness.

    • Alessio Tummolillo says:

      “I go to college to learn things I enjoy learning, not to get a degree, because that doesn’t guarantee a successful career.”

      I think right what you said there proves your first statement wrong. EVERYONE should have the opportunity to go to college to learn things they enjoy. People are pressured to MAKE something of their college educations by society because they just spent a fortune getting that education. Instead, if people went to college for free (or at least had the option to) THEN the “straight and narrow” career choice becomes…less straight and narrow. They are now equipped with the knowledge of their field of study, but do not necessarily have to pursue it. And can do something more like what you’re doing if they so pleased!

      At the current cost, college is not worth pursuing.

      • Alessio – I guess that’s one way to look at it.

        Another way would be to say that getting a college education is like buying a rolls royce. If you want to learn something, you can go to the library and get books for free. You can join with others and learn it. But if you insist on learning it from people that have Masters Degrees, Ph.D’s, and are tenured, then you should pay. Universities are the most expensive way to learn some of the simple things they teach. I previously wrote that College Is For Rich People – you can check it out at http://www.studentloancpa.com/2012/02/20/college-education-for-rich-people/.

        It seems to me that historically, the richest kids got to go to formal education right until the middle of the 20th Century when suddenly EVERYONE could afford it because of subsidies. Yet and still, the substance of college hasn’t changed. The disconnect between the ivory tower and the market place still remains…don’t believe me? Ask the OccupyWallStreet folks who “can’t get a job”!

        • Alessio Tummolillo says:

          Interesting to see education that way. But if that’s true, why is education free at all? Why are there public high schools?

          And that idea may have been a solution for the past, but instead we have to look at where we are today: More and more kids are trying to get to college, no matter what the cost.

          By making a college education free, you eliminate so many social problems. How many times have we heard the story of a student getting into college because their dad is someone important?

          Getting into University would be “merit” based and not “money” based.

          USA spent 711 billion dollars on the Military last year alone, take 100 billion of that (and we’d still be spending more than 4 times in excess than the second place spender in Military) and allocate that money to State Universities, and this isn’t such a difficult problem anymore. EVERYONE has access to a College Education, and the people who were being turned away from it because of money are now able to go, plus people don’t feel so pressured to go into a field that HAS to do with what they graduated in, or so pressured to be making money right out of college.

          You’ll have MANY overqualified people, but they’re not MANY overqualified people in debt.

          • I honestly can’t say I have issues with your proposal. It should definitely be considered.

            I do think however that as society is today, the reason for free high school is not applicable to free college. For one thing, high school is a minimum standard. The Chevrolet v.s. Mercedes analogy comes in again. It’s all about priorities. In any economy or society, I think people have to take care of themselves. Right now I think employment prospects were an after-thought for people until the economy crashed.

      • Alice says:

        Alessio,

        Most places have libraries that are “free.” You can go there.

        I guess I dont understand the emphasis on college. If I want to learn something, I read. If I cant get it alone, I read some more and join an online forum. If I really wanted to go to a class I would go to a low cost course at a community center.

        Instead of throwing more money at the problem I have a different idea. How about take the federal money out? Universities will have to drop prices. Sure quite a few will go out of business. They’ll get the picture that kids cant afford $2000+ a semester plus $500 for books. If they want more people to come, they will have to drop prices and also stop scamming poor kids on textbooks. College doesnt have to be so expensive, but colleges have been hiking up tuition for reasons that have nothing to do with education.

    • I’m with you 100% Jean. I don’t really think people value education anymore. The data is clear. College students graduate without ever writing a 20 page paper. They barely study. They’re not getting “educated”. Not really.

    • Alice says:

      Well, of course a lot of people don’t go to college for the education. If someone wanted to learn, there are libraries, Amazon sells many books dirt cheap, and there is the internet. A lot of people go to school for the certification. Point blank you can learn on your own or with a mentor for far cheaper and and probably faster than you can at a university, BUT you dont get the certificate.

      • Yes Alice. But I would argue that the certificate is meant to imply the education that a lot of people aren’t getting. I would argue that the percentage of XYZ majors who don’t study are partly to blame for the overall devaluation of that major over time. What do you think?

        • Alice says:

          @Albert,

          I can agree to some extent, but I would also say the sheer numbers of people getting degrees devalues the major.
          If everyone has a BAs and Alice gets a BA, Alice doesnt stand out anymore. Now Alice needs a Masters of PhD to stand out. It used to be that having a high school diploma was considered the gateway to success.

          • True true Alice. I might even go further to say that the Masters and PhD are devalued too by the sheer number of people getting them. Universities are everywhere – and online!!!

            Also, I fear that getting an advanced degree doesn’t so much make a person stand out, as it takes them out of one pool of competition into the next. For example, I’m a CPA with a degree and masters in Accounting. If you go to Monster.com and look for jobs requiring all three, most of them will be for people with more experience than me. So while some jobs like me better, they’d rather hire less educated people who will be less entitled to raises and promotions. I’m stuck in the pool that is made up of people no less than 10 years older than me. (my current co-workers rock though. :) )

            • Alice says:

              Albert,

              Thats a valid concern. My mom is a college grad who gets rejected for jobs on the basis of being “overqualified.”

              The pink elephant in the room is that sometimes college grads are not the best employees but want the best jobs.

  7. PsyConomics says:

    The point of higher education isn’t necessarily just a job/career. The point is to be more educated, be more scientifically/numerically/historically literate. Some people (such as myself) have no real other option than college. With my aptitudes (and/or lack thereof) education was/remains my only real path.

    I graduated right into the middle of some of the worst of the recession (2009), so after a year of failing to get a job that would support me in any capacity I went back to college and worked my way into a MS Stats program. I needed a lot of other undergraduate classes that my softer science BA did not provide, but at the same time that education is valuable to an extent.

    It allows me to properly consume an awful lot of scientific literature, it allows me to properly critique ideas, and it allows me to speak from a broader platform of experience. All of the above is very valuable to any potential employer – just not valuable enough given the glut of people like me.

    So now I come to your article and read how over-valued and essentially useless higher education is because it wont land me a job (like a real adult).

    I reject your definition of adulthood. I reject your definition of success. I reject your timeline for my life. I reject your notion of what my education should look like. I reject your attempts to box me, define me, and by extension, appeal to the ingrained sense of masculinity that is screaming at me to be the vocational/business starting person that I am not, never have been, and never will be. I reject your judgements of my contemporaries’ reactions to a terrifying economic environment.

    Should I have suffered in silence? Mothballed my academic aptitudes in favor of working fastfood (or a non-existent manufacturing/construction) just because it would have better fit your definition of what men SHOULD be doing? Should I have forced premature, broken, and fragile form of self-reliance upon myself by virtue of age?

    No. I acted as best I could given the information I had. I question it everyday so as to better strengthen my own abilities. But that is a very personal thing. You do not have that privilege.

    • “The point of higher education isn’t necessarily just a job/career.”
      - I agree. But that’s precisely why it won’t always work for that reason. If something doesn’t always serve its own purpose, then education cannot always serve a purpose that it wasn’t necessarily meant to serve. Frankly, your views reflect why I myself have both a degree, masters, and a professional license.

      I think you misunderstand me completely – and I say so based on your detailed description of your situation. All I am saying in the article is that folks who expected an education to provide a career should be a bit more thorough than listening to older adults. I never once said that the current research would have been “enough”, however it goes a long way.

      There will always be recessions. There will always be booms and busts. This article is itself a rejection of the powerlessness that the Occupy Movement implies. I reject the notion of grown-ups who blame their problems on other people rather than react and take action. I reject the notion of grown-ups who make decisions almost entirely based on what other grown-ups think they should do (our generation is notorious for this – it’s called helicopter parenting).

      The truth is that some of us will not be employed doing what we want. However, it seems to me that when that happens, everyone gets really upset because we each never expect it to be us. But as you said, “The point of higher education isn’t necessarily just a job/career.”

      • PsyConomics says:

        “… This article is itself a rejection of the powerlessness that the Occupy Movement implies. I reject the notion of grown-ups who blame their problems on other people rather than react and take action. I reject the notion of grown-ups who make decisions almost entirely based on what other grown-ups think they should do…”

        If I am understanding this correctly, there is a good chance that you are making the fundamental attribution error. The people in the occupy movement are reacting to circumstances outside of their control. People can’t control the economy. People can’t always control their circumstances. But as the more enduring findings from social psychology tell us, the environment is a large contributor to one’s actions.

        Start from the assumption that someone is making the best choices that they can and acting the best that they can, then assess from there. Unless you have good (preferably clinical) reason it is both rude and hateful to assume that someone’s assessment of their own situation is wrong just because of your own “common sense” or “how things should be” observations. You are violently silencing and making invisible an entire a large group of people from diverse backgrounds and abilities by implying that they are somehow “broken.”

        You wouldn’t say that “women have power to end the wage gap, they just need to be adults and stop blaming others for the consequences of their choices” would you? Why is this any different? In the activist world we call this “victim blaming.” By and large, those who are unable to get jobs are victims of their circumstances, not failures as humans and not emotional/mental children. People will work to change their circumstances when they can, but this isn’t always an option. To assume that it is is to victim blame, commit the fundamental attribution error, or both.

        If you are having trouble understanding this, checking your own relative privilege as it relates to education and economic success (obvious marketable math and technical ability given your background/job and familial acceptance of education both come to my mind just by reading your biographical blurb) would likely help.

        • “The people in the occupy movement are reacting to circumstances outside of their control. People can’t control the economy. People can’t always control their circumstances. But as the more enduring findings from social psychology tell us, the environment is a large contributor to one’s actions.”

          Large contributor, but not “largest” or “only” contributor. Is the cup half empty or will you drink it?

          If it’s outside their control, then why would protesting be an appropriate reaction? Please explain to me how this works, because I’m thoroughly confused.

          It’s their fault how they react – period. It’s their choice. There’s a liberal arts major out there helping high school kids write their admissions essays at $50 a pop – and another that is protesting. Who do you think will get ahead financially faster? Who do you think will be more empowered in the long-term?

          It’s all about empowerment and locus of control. When it rains, some people complain that it’s raining. Others grab an umbrella or a poncho and keep moving. You seem to know a lot about psychology, so I assume you know that an internal locus of control is more relevant to success (financial, career, etc) than an external one.

          My family background has little relevance. Everybody’s family has skills – I just choose to fully embrace mine. If your family is made up of plumbers, why not become one? Just so you know, my family is not wealthy and I still have six figure student loans. . .so the people protesting are no different from me.

    • Alice says:

      @Psy

      “The point of higher education isn’t necessarily just a job/career. The point is to be more educated, be more scientifically/numerically/historically literate. Some people (such as myself) have no real other option than college. With my aptitudes (and/or lack thereof) education was/remains my only real path.”

      But someone could be more educated by reading books, googling, joining online forums, etc. Unless someone else is pay the bill, I would consider it very unwise to go college just to be more educated. Some cities offer quickie courses at community centers.

  8. Steph says:

    This seems to be North American centric. Not quite accurate in Europe. interesting read and thanks for sharing your thoughts.

  9. Ed Rankin says:

    Albert, your position makes great sense if you assume the only reason to pursue an education is to get a good job and make money. I believe one of the reasons our country is in such sad shape is due to the lack of education among Americans in areas like economics, political science and government and sociology. I think education is important to develop critical thinking abilities which are very important to live a full and empowered life.

    • Ah…Ed that is an interesting comment. I would say that the purpose of education is NOT to make money. Some education makes money, some doesn’t. All education EDUCATES however, and the data is clear: people don’t go to school for education. The full and empowered life you mention is probably more common among uneducated literate people if you ask me.

      Seriously, how many people do you know that majored in XYZ that can talk about it outside of work? How many of your classmates were genuinely interested in LEARNING as opposed to just making an A – which can be done with cramming? No sir, people go to college because they can get better, higher paying jobs after wards – that’s why they feel betrayed when it doesn’t happen. Those of us with a genuine interest in the subject matter find other forms of fulfillment – e.g. my consulting and writing – and don’t start picketing.

      If you have a chance, check out my articles below – Two ways to look at a college education:
      http://www.studentloancpa.com/2012/03/12/two-ways-to-look-at-a-college-education/
      http://www.studentloancpa.com/2012/03/26/two-ways-to-look-at-a-college-education-part-two-2/

  10. Erica B. says:

    What are some good blue collar jobs for women? I have a masters degree and have mostly wished that I didn’t go to college at all. I have about $50,000 in student loan debt, and my degree is not paying for itself. I wish I would have just entered the workforce and worked my way up after high school instead of going to college. In my experience looking and applying for jobs, past work experience is much more valued than education.

    • @ Erica B. I agree that past work experience is much more valued than education, however I don’t think you should give up without a fight. $50K is not much. It feels like a lot, but it’s really not. It’s a BMW or Mercedes and that means that at 8%, you can pay it off with $606 per month over 10 years. Sounds like a lot, but it’s all just numbers. The question is HOW.

      If you would like some help, contact me via the information here http://www.studentloancpa.com/about-me/

    • That said, Blue collar jobs have to be more and more open to women. Look for jobs that are indoors, and don’t involve too much lifting. Working for UPS or FEDEX are examples.

      Look for jobs being done by men who aren’t particularly big or tough, and chances are ANY woman can do them. I’m not saying that women can’t do men’s jobs…don’t want to go down that road…. ;)

  11. PN says:

    I completely agree we should think for ourselves whether a college education is best for us & not rely on what our parents did or told us. I strongly believe if you have a gift for something, whether it be washing dishes or being a tech wiz, you will be very successful. That said, I’m very grateful for my college education. I started college not knowing what I wanted to do with my life (2 degrees and 4yrs later i’d probably argue I still don’t) but I like where I am in life and had it not been for college exposing me to differents ‘useless’ classes, I wouldn’t have found my way to where I am. For someone like a Mark Zuckerberg or any other entrepreneur or artist that has a passion & a gift, I agree, college is useless.

    • “For someone like a Mark Zuckerberg or any other entrepreneur or artist that has a passion & a gift, I agree, college is useless.”

      Very well said PN! My fear is that many “Zuckerberg” types defaulted to college – because Daddy said so.

  12. Alice says:

    I just wanted to say that I hope the million dollar myth will change. The figures that people come up with are all over the place. If you factor in things like the 5-6 yrs not working, inflation, etc its actually more like $150,000 to $500,000 according to some. Also, people who earn more may have different personality traits.

  13. Deanna Ogle says:

    Articles like these frustrate me. We all can agree on a surface level that a college degree may not be worth the giant price tag it comes with, but until employers around the country understand that too, we’re stuck. I’m quite young for having worked so long in my industry, but I’m still hitting a pay ceiling because I don’t have that piece of paper. I realize some people get good breaks and can get along just fine without one but not all of us are like that (and the general masses are not).

    So, I see your “college degrees are a waste of money and a burden”, and I raise you a “What the hell else are we supposed to do until the gatekeepers realize this too?”

    • Thanks so much for your comment. That’s an interesting question.

      My answer is as follows:
      1. Accept the possibility that your degree may just barely keep you out of the poorhouse. That is always a possibility since it is not really “designed” to make you rich through employment.
      2. Learn to sell your knowledge to the average person. This is hard, but very empowering. When I began consulting and tax work I felt how good it is to know what people want, and how to give it to them. If you’re a liberal arts major, help people write essays (college, grad school) or speeches. It usually costs little and you don’t have to do it much. I still have a full-time job so it’s not like I prepare 1,000 tax returns.
      But once you’ve mastered (a) what people want that you can provide for a fee and (b) how to market and deliver it – you’ll never starve. In a bad economy where employers can’t afford to pay salary + payroll tax + benefits, it’s very easy to get contract positions. They are not ideal, but hey – you won’t starve.
      3. Use your knowledge to create something of your own. I spent years researching a financial ideology that I will publish – a how-to-guide on wealth. There are others, but I think mine is better. Creating it is excellent practice – forces me to become self-taught in my profession and learn things that other people just like me don’t know.

      #1 is psychological. #2 is the appropriate response to #1. #3 is what happens when you have done #2 for a while or perfect it.

    • Also consider reading my latest blog “The Final Word on College” : http://www.studentloancpa.com/2012/09/24/final-word-college/

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