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According to The Huffington Post writer Ross Luippold, R&B singer (and convicted woman-beater) Chris Brown engaged in a Twitter battle with comedy writer Jenny Johnson after she tweeted the following snarky message in reply to Brown’s complaint about looking old:
The two duked it out for a number of tweets and retweets, including Brown calling Johnson a “hoe”:
And while we all know that engaging in a Twitter battle isn’t exactly high-society discourse, particularly with someone who has as excitable followers as the so-called Team Breezy, Brown’s Twitter attacks seem to have resulted in his Twitter account being deactivated. It can’t be determined as of now whether he pulled it himself, or if his account was suspended by Twitter, but as of 10:30pm EST, @ChrisBrown is currently unavailable.
Chris Brown has gotten into Twitter trouble before, as Luippold points out, attacking other critics and then attempting to delete the tweets.
What do you think of Brown’s Twitter activities? Should his account be suspended for these tweets? Does he have a right to defend himself when critiqued by comedians or critics such as Johnson?
How far is too far?
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“Just ask Rihanna if she mad”
Don’t need to ask her, just look at the picture of her beaten up face you caused. What a dumb schmuck
Chris Brown’s Twitter Deactivated After Tweet War with Comedy Writer
1st – The implication that the twitter account was Turned Off is misleading – the account is back an active – it appears the CB tuned out rather than carry on with matters.
2nd – If this is war then going to Walmart is Armageddon and it just shows how language needs to be used carefully to not mislead and provoke people to think and even behave in different ways.
3rd – If people wish to say that CB should not have reacted to what was written, they may need to step back – look at the headline here and consider how it is making them react emotionally and look at this whole none event!
Why do I get the impression that this none story is being used to agendarise – again!
You have a point Media
@ Mr Supertypo – Actually as I keep looking at the background and how this has been playing out over the years, It actually gets worse.
Again to keep some people’s reactive natures under control, I have to make clear that I knew Sweet FA about this pair – Brown and Johnson – until this thread came up. Given the reaction and my interests in looking at and tracing media tropes this is an obvious and no brainer hot potato.
What comes out of the murk is the issue of Bullying – in particular how bullies defend themselves and their conduct. There are three stages and sets of tactics there.
1) Trivialise and make light
2) Seek reaction and support – that can be provoking the target to get a reaction, or targeting others to get reaction about the target – or both. The focus is actually not the target it’s getting people looking at anything but The Bully
3) Bully retreats – could be feigned Victimhood – supposed illness – even change of career.
When you look at the dynamics guess who is displaying the strategies in a very UN-Comedic way? Jenny Johnson. She’s a classic stage 2. I suspect she has found a fertile ground for her personal traits within the field of comedy.
The patterns of conduct shown by Jenny Johnson, the The Provoke – Retreat – Reinvent – Provoke cycle
and patterns over time are too defined to not raise concerns about how similar the patterns are to Cyber-Stalking – Cyber-Harrasment, and when you factor in how defence plays from other areas of abuse psychology just keep on coming up, I’m sorry but I see nothing comical at all!
The style of comedy supposedly offered is interesting and it does require highly articulated and even obscene ideas/images to keep notoriety high and twit friends – social networking flows high. To keep focus upon her she is willing to do and say quite outrageous things – or things that will provoke outrage.
The reference to the tweet “The maker of the child’s fedora should have to give Kirk Douglas a blowjob until he ejaculates, no matter how long it takes.” evidently has some context, yet I’m having a few issues with unravelling all of the text – subtexts – ideas all being brought into one place. There is an unpleasant indication of child abuse and abuse of child abusers – lynching – that gets played out. It’s just one example of the Provoke Response and be Provocative patterns – … and when you look at what she does it just keeps on coming out.
Ms Johnson seems to like the role of Comedy Sheriff, and the idea of Blazzing Saddles, and yet she is fully aware of modern day communication and it’s effects.
For me the comedy routines are simply a cover – and she has managed to manoeuvre herself into an interesting position of being the comedy gate keeper for violent reaction in gender issues polarised around women.
Saying things that others find popular or populist does not inoculate against a person being socially devious, manipulative or dangerous. Image can be very misleading – think Sandusky and remove gender, sex, sexuality and consider only how power gets used. It’s disturbing to see so many identify with Johnson and when she wants notoriety they are so willing to sacrifice others and their own minds to her interests.
MediaHound – When the article was written, the account WAS off.
Second, this may not be a story to YOU, but it’s a story to a lot of people. Let’s remember here that a very, very famous man beat his girlfriend up so badly he was arrested and found guilty.
Now, he’s still super famous, despite getting in more fights and using threatening language.
You all want to be so excited about a Twitter comedian “harassing” him and really want to believe that she somehow deserved what she got from him…. Sure, I agree, she ABSOLUTELY should have expected this. I mean, an abusive woman-hating asshole is probably going to respond to your attacks with abusive, woman-hating responses.
But that doesn’t make the story irrelevant. Every celebrity gets harassing tweets. All the time. Even ones everyone loves like Ashton Kutcher gets “you’re a fucking asshole, you should die” tweets, because there are people like that comedian who troll and make fun of people as part of their job.
That’s not the story. Because that’s an OLD STORY.
The story here is that this guy is so off-the-handle that he actually responded by telling her he was going to SHIT IN HER EYE and told her to suck his dick.
That is unusual. Because it goes against the advice every lawyer, studio handler, manager and agent will be telling him. Getting a tattoo of something that may not be Rihanna’s beaten-up face, but looks a fuck of a lot like it, that was ill-advised for someone that actually BEAT HER UP.
It’s sort of like Charlie Sheen. Famously arrested for domestic abuse, accused of domestic abuse by his ex wife Denise, starts acting off the fucking plantation by videotaping himself speaking nonsense and high as a kite. That was news. Not because it was such an unusual thing to do in the real world, but because to go that far off the plot of what Hollywood normally “allows” shows a sign of someone who’s in real danger. And everyone who loved Charlie then was saying, “Dude, just don’t die. I’m afraid you’re going to die.”
The question isn’t, “Did Johnson deserve a verbal attack because she was provoking him?” The question is, “When will Chris Brown stop?”
And if you all want to turn CB into a victim, go ahead, but to the rest of the world the truth is clear. He’s off the rails and he’s dangerous and will stop at nothing in his relentless pursuit of burying himself and ruining his own career.
Let’s just hope Rihanna or another young woman who happens to get in his way on the path to self-destruction doesn’t end up dead.
Uh, hello, he’s a victim of verbal abuse and harassment. Hate him all you want but if you punch him, he’s still a victim AND an abuser. In fact a lot of abusers are probably victims at one point, they aren’t destined to one role. Do you think he is not a victim of harassment or abuse?
Is anyone doubting that he’s a risk to women he is dating? I think he’s a trainwreck personally but still they both acted like dipshits, yet tbh I think in this twitter case alone she did worse with the 3 years of harassment if that’s true.
To the rest of the world it is clear?
Such an interesting claim. I think you have over stepped again – and if you are right I am flattered by the compliment! It’s not everyday that I’m told I’m so singularly unique as a man. Of course I do regard some ofthe rfolks as my mentors – Ghandi – M L King and even mandela!
You’re right, of course that’s not a factual statement. It’s an exaggeration. I’m exaggerating for effect.
But I stand by everything else I said.
@Joanna Schroeder
You’re right, of course that’s not a factual statement. It’s an exaggeration. I’m exaggerating for effect.
Thank you for clarifying that you do that. It so hard to respond in rational ways to undisclosed exaggeration. It’s also seen as rather difficult to find a tactful way to raise the issue without others being needlessly defensive – and even claiming it has not happened.
So thank you – I’m sure it will assist many in progressing in discussion. P^)
@ Joanne – Oh You Do make me laugh! It’s often hilarious seeing what you will write next.
To the rest of the world it is clear?
Such an interesting claim. I think you have over stepped again – and if you are right, I am flattered by the compliment!
It’s not everyday that I’m told I’m so singularly unique as a man and separated in totality from all other member of the clan mankind. Of course I do regard some other folks as my mentors – Ghandi – M L King and even Mandela! They did stand alone and many thought them out on a limb!
I have always wondered why the three most noted males for social change and peace in the 20th century are all none Caucasian? It has to be more than just dumb luck and statistics at play.
Oh by the way – “And if you all want to turn CB into a victim, go ahead,..” – you know that is a completely false presentation of me, my views and my ideals – so I have to wonder why would you even attempt to put it out there? It is such a poor and junior high debating tactic that it really does place you in a bad light.
I advocate people taking responsibility of their own views, how they look at the world and above all else for how they present themselves to others. Why do you keep on presenting other people in a way that makes such a lovely multicoloured patchwork frock for you to wear and even hide behind?
… thanks again to your unique compliment – but standing alone and being a Good Man is so often misunderstood by those who just can’t see what’s in front of them! P^)
… and thank you for debating me and not the subject. If I was a narcissist I may think it flattering – But as My interests are in people – tropes – psychology and the net I’ll just use it as another example of odd behaviour and focus shifting in the hope that others won’t notice! P^)
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@MediaHound: I can’t believe you haven’t sniffed the goings on the, ‘Why Black Women are ALSO Afraid of Black Men” thread. The relationship between ideas and words is so cloaked in such disturbingly harsh and creepy tones it’s a wonder my computer doesn’t melt when I put this stuff on the screen.Nonetheless, there is much to explore and analyze.
OH MY GOD: Read this. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/26/chris-brown-jenny-johnson-singers-fans-threaten-to-kill-comedian-twitter-feud_n_2192812.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003
Don’t see what is so shocking about Huffington correcting earlier errors and misleading statements when they say The Twitter feud resulted in Brown deactivating his Twitter account for a matter of hours, ...
Or is the OH MY GOD meant to imply that “HE” has now done something else?
Do you know the number of times per day that death threats in various forms are made across twitter and the net in general by people you have never heard of and would not ever hear of except by accident… or is that irrelevant when the evolutionary drivers and net memes are out and hungry?
A witch-hunt – An investigation carried out ostensibly to uncover subversive activities but actually used to harass and undermine those with differing views, often involving moral panic, mass hysteria and lynching, – and I chose the L word because it has just the right flavour and seasoning to go with OH MY GOD!
She sure is a funny person….
http://www.papermag.com/arts_and_style/2012/05/jenny-johnson-jennyjohnsonhi5-funniest-twitter.php
What would happen if you met Chris Brown?
Oh god, I’d probably run for the hills. He replied to a tweet once. I was proud that after six months of harassing the guy, all my hard work paid off
So Ellisa – that’s from May. 2, 2012 – and she’s saying she likes to provoke – harass – showing an awareness of reaction if she does say the right thing – as in provokes/harasses the right way?
Is her language seen as funny because she is female – or comedian – or female comedian? Then you have the second question which is “Is Her Language Funny?”.
I knew nothing of the Chris Brown Character until this last 24 hours and this thread starting – but in looking at the whole story and the history and the language being used about him …. I smell a big gendered racist rat!
He’s no saint – but deliberately badgering and abusing to provoke reaction and profit from it – Where I come from that’s called Paparazzi. This is one of the first blatant cases I have seen of Snap Shot by Twitter being used to abuse!
“Oh god, I’d probably run for the hills. He replied to a tweet once. I was proud that after six months of harassing the guy, all my hard work paid off.”
Isn’t harassment a crime in some states? Didn’t she just admit to committing a crime? When are the people who wanted to charge Chris Brown with a crime going to demand prosecution of Jenny Johnson? I suspect never and some people don’t see white privilege.
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Ok – curiosity killed my cat Mr Hound, so I went looking for some of her funny Jenny tweets:
The maker of the child’s fedora should have to give Kirk Douglas a blowjob until he ejaculates, no matter how long it takes.
I’ll take “Things Dumb Whores Say” for $600 RT @KimKardashian: Why can’t people do things right the 1st time! Always gotta do stuff myself!
Dear whores turned soccer moms,I’m not praying for your kid who has the sniffles and wet farts, so stop making that your Facebook status.
If you’re feeling bad about yourself, keep in mind that Brad Pitt is engaged to Billy Bob Thornton’s sloppy seconds.
If a guy’s coffee order has more than 5 words in it, he should have to tuck his penis and balls behind his butt for the rest of the day.
She really has a jocular thing for oral sex….maybe Chris Brown was just relating to her on a level she feels comfortable?? A bit more of the same from Jenny:
- Never Forget: Ted Danson used to go down on Whoopi Goldberg
- I bet Kenny G gives blowjobs out of the side of his mouth.
- I’d give Chaz Bono a blowjob before I watched one second of American Idol.
This Jenny Johnson is horrible comedian, because shes not funny at all..
Try picking a fights in twitter, lol, cowards, idiots, asshole
Maybe I am a bit naive, but I dont understand why Jenny Johnson troll CB? why does she got out and insult him? no the references to his past are invalid. She attack him unprovoched, I like to know why?
Not defending CB or his choice of words (as I can see they are more a product of the enviroment than a statement of intent, may be wrong although) but if somebody insult me, my first reaction is to insult back.
So I as I see it, she attack him, hoping for a reaction and now she can play victim or something? Or am I wrong?
So I as I see it, she attack him, hoping for a reaction and now she can play victim or something? Or am I wrong?
I think in the case of Jenny Johnson herself its a matter attacking him in hopes of getting some publicty (and possibly some sympathy) and being absolved of her own responsibility via Brown’s past actions (“It’s okay to insult him because he truly is a bad person.”).
I think that the folks here are trying to bypass all of that in hopes of using this as a jump off point for some bigger discussion about why it seems to be okay to threaten women with sexual assault as a means to shut them up (even though that question doesn’t seem to be in the post itself, which appears to be about Brown and not the issues of his actions and words). And I think that some of the other folks here have a problem with trying to use an instance where Brown’s responses are intentionally and actively provoked (vs the countless times such responses from Brown and others were totally unprovoked) as a jump off point for those responses.
It comes off looking these questions are nothing but a smoke screen to justify Johnson’s actions and protect her from being called out on them.
There are interesting and well documents gender differences in dealing with abuse – trolling – harassment – cyber stalking.
From a well known research publication “Whilst females were concerned about injury, males were significantly more concerned about damage to reputation and financial loss.”
I have been aware of these differences for some years, and I find it odd that there is so much pressure for such gendered differences to “NOT” be widely known and even talked about.
Make an accusation against a woman via the net and she will perceive physical threat and harm F=28.0% M=14% . A male treated the same way perceives threat to reputation F=28.4% M=46.3%
He calls her name she fears Physical Violence – valid personal feeling but not valid assessment of risk.
She calls him names he perceives threat to reputation – and when done via the net is valid assessment of risk.
Police are being advised to take greater notice of men reporting cyber harassment and stalking as risk is higher and perceived to be higher.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2239142/Elisabeth-Hasselbeck-condemns-Chris-Brown-deletes-Twitter-account-following-attack-comedy-writer.html
Verbal rape? Yeah. what said was terrible but I think it’s a bit too soon to initiate the “Anything bad that is done to a woman is some form of rape” rule.
I’m not coming back because I am so upset by newshound? mediahound? suggesting that I want to lynch a black man. His race is irrelevant. I love the website though. Goodbye.