Joanna Schroeder hopes men and women can become allies in the war against inequality, without too many casualties on either side.
This post is in reply to Nicole Johnson’s post: Ladies, Let’s Stop Declaring War on Men.
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Dear Nicole,
I really wanted to love your article, Ladies, Let’s Stop Declaring War on Men, a response to Meghan Casserly’s Forbes piece, because I really agree with your title! We need to stop fighting the people who should be our allies. But I’ve re-read yours and Meghan’s articles each three times in the attempt to find the connecting (and disconnecting) fibers. I’m still sort of perplexed.
First, let me say I am a guy’s girl. I love me my men. My writing partner is a guy, two of my best friends are guys, my brother made me a feminist, my uncles and my dad and stepdad are my cheerleaders, my grandfather thinks I’m bananas but brilliant. My husband is a tower of pleasure and an intellectual challenge to me. Seriously, I love men.
But I also love women. I’ve never once felt I had to choose sides. Interestingly, I think both you and Meghan agree with me. There is not actually a *war*. No one wins when the sexes battle. By pointing out that when women gain power, power doesn’t necessarily get taken from men, I think she’s agreeing with you.
But Nicole, who are these women who are waging war against men? It’s not Meghan, as far as I can tell. Feminists? Some feminists? Not me, not any feminists I know in real life. A vocal minority of feminists perhaps, are trying to wage war against men. And maybe Hymowitz, whose book gets a lot of press, but I’m not sure represents the opinions of the vast majority of women.
Also, perhaps, a vocal minority of whiny, woe-is-me, embittered women who have failed at dating and in the workplace? Sure, probably. I too, HATE statements like, “All men are dicks.” or “All men want is sex.” Annoying, abusive, untrue, ugly, make-you-ugly things to say. I equally hate the assumption that women are gold-diggers or bitches, which sometimes happens when guys are heartbroken or have failed at dating.
Both sexes have their annoying, whiny, woe-is-me minority. But please, don’t say this is what “women do” when confronted with challenges or inequalities. Not fair.
I ask for what I want, and I’ve gotten (or am getting) almost everything I’ve asked for. And I am just an average woman. You pass me on the street every day and you don’t think, “Now there’s the woman who is the rare exception to the rule!” No, I am the average, strong-minded, pretty-enough, hard-working woman. The whiny women are the minority, just as the women-hating men are the minority.
What if I wrote a piece on GMP wherein I said, “To further illustrate my point, here are additional examples: if a man has become unsuccessful in the dating marketplace, suddenly all women are bitches. If a man has not received a raise at work, he unequivocally has been suppressed by the feminist anti-man takeover. When a wife doesn’t ‘pull her weight’ at home, men perceive her as lazy and gold-digging?”
People would jump on my shit faster than I could reply! They’d say, “You cannot generalize men like that!” And they’d be right!
Why can you say that about us? Because you’re one of us? No way, dude.
Call us to arms! I love that! Call us to be brave, to be strong, to ask for the raises and promotions we deserve. But don’t say that’s *the* reason the vast, vast majority of CEOs are men. The reasons for this disparity are so profound that the word “plethora” doesn’t even quite reach it. First, of course, there’s the education rift for those generations (CEOs tend to be over the age of 45) that funneled women into different course paths and didn’t encourage them to pursue these types of careers. Second, there’s the good-old-boys-club in some of the corporations with these older male CEOs. Third, there’s the burden (and gift) of childbirth and motherhood and society’s expectations of how a woman’s work performance will change once she is a mother as opposed to what we expect from men once they become fathers. I could go on and on. And on.
These aren’t excuses. These are partial explanations. And times are changing, as Meghan pointed out. Women are earning more higher degrees than men, men are staying home more with little ones (there’s a dad at our school who picks up his first and third graders with a two year old on his shoulders and pushing a baby in a stroller while his wife goes to her gnarly high-paying job). But, as Meghan says, that doesn’t make men less manly or women more like men. She cites this great quote from HuffPo’s Marcia Reynolds:
“We are all evolving. It’s the labels and judgments we place on each other that are not evolving.”
Don’t de-volve us by saying that women are “this way” or “that way”. The war, of course, isn’t a real war. Obviously there is no bloodshed. But generalizations like these are a form of knocking down an opponent.
Also, am I naive to think that she’s making a joke with her snarky thanks to science? I could be wrong, but I’m thinkin’ she’s not actually pissed that science hasn’t given men, or maybe test-tubes, uteruses (uteri?) and vaginas.
Finally, it is not anti-man to point out inequalities in the workplace or anywhere else. I think she’s just saying that the premise to Manning Up is inherently faulted due to the fact that women are still far from equal in the workplace. We can’t be “defeating” an opponent if we are barely even on the same playing field.
We should all, as a united front, look at the inequalities in the workplace and accept individual responsibility for our roles in how they became this way. We should work as a team to even them out. I think you, me, and Meghan all agree on that.
So who or what is responsible for rape culture, inequalities, and the patriarchy?
Joanna: However, as we’re learning more through the Occupy movements, the highest-paid members of the workforce have massive amounts of power and disproportionate wealth. Women and men of color should be getting a piece of that, to diversify that power too. So should those all those white guys that are at the bottom of the barrel be getting a cut too or is does their white maleness mean they’re living fine? I ask this because often when talking about gender/race the presumption is “white men have power” and “anyone who who is not a white man doesn’t”. That leaves far… Read more »
Feminists in the US declared the war on men at Seneca Falls in 1848. Recognised since then as the “birth place” of feminism, the convention declared war on the male gender and characterised for ever after the relationship between men and women as one of war. Naturally they said men started it and women were the innocent defenders. The convention adopted the language and form of the US Declaration of Independence, which was of course a declaration of war against the British empire by the revolutionary colonists. So don’t tell me feminists haven’t declared war on men. They did so… Read more »
I think feminists need to take the first step since they started this war against boys and men.
Admit your academic fraud and expose your sisters.
While you’re at it, why don’t you ask Congress to admit all the under-the-table deals they make for corporate contributors. Sigh. Pipe dreams….
It’s not realistic for sure but that doesn’t matter. It is an honourable response. It’s saying we see the shit you are pulling and we reject it. If you want to be taken seriously when you pretend you are not perpetuating anti-male hatred then act like it.
Of course they won’t. That’s part of the point.
I won’t ask you to answer for fringe men’s rights activists who’ve distorted your cause if you don’t ask me to answer for fringe women’s rights activists who’ve distorted mine. I’m not responsible for their words and actions, I can’t possibly know what they even all are, and I’d have no idea who to offer up for sacrifice. Instead, why don’t you and I discuss things productively instead of starting a witch hunt?
Eric–these are great things to be teaching your children, and you should be very proud of your parenting skills and techniques. I’m definitely not a natural leader, and as a young woman, it’s sometimes not the easiest thing to not let what people say and do get to you (be they other girls, men, parents, bosses, societal norms, etc..). At some point you just have to not give a fuck, become an adult, and realize that people will always judge no matter who you are and what you do. At that point, it’s on them and their own insecurities. “How… Read more »
You’re welcome.
So well-said!! I’ve been guilty of that, and it’s out of that frustration of hearing it from the ‘other’ side. I too, am a man’s woman (I’m far closer to my male friends than I ever have been to a female), and my partner is even more feminist than I consider myself. Ironically, I never thought there was a war until I stumbled upon MRA sites and started seeing all the vitriol against women. When I start to going into the offensive or getting ‘woe is me’ myself, my partner makes sure to remind me that they’re just a very… Read more »
Well Miss Aya,
I guess if we continue my GMP Cocktail Lounge analogy as my sincere complement & gratitude for your kind words….
…can I buy you a drink…?
I have no clue why this concept of “slut-shaming” is even a term, let alone (in the context of the problems in this country) one that is such an enormous feminist issue – particularly where adults are involved. How can someone be shamed for their own choices, unless they believe they have done the wrong choices? I have a few basic tenets, which I teach my daughters, which (among other things) will prevent them from being subject to any kind of “shaming.” 1. Think for yourself. Don’t be a follower. (Even if you’re not a natural leader, you don’t have… Read more »
Fixing typo.
How can someone be shamed for their own choices, unless they believe they have made wrong choices?
It’s wonderful that you’re teaching your daughters to respect themselves, and grow up to become strong, independant, confident women. The point about “slut shaming” is that no matter how well your daughters carry themselves and life their lives, there will be some people, some times, male and female, who will decide to disrespect their autonomy. It could be over nothing at all. Say one of your daughters wears a skirt to a pub. Some women who might be jealous or just mean might call her a slut. Some guy who’s been rejected too many times might make a joke about… Read more »
“I don’t even know where I fit in, I feel equalist but everywhere I go and read either has misogyny, misandry, privilege used as a shaming and silencing word instead of having ANY benefit, oppression olympics, closed minded and heavily biased attitudes. ”
This really speaks to me. The gender war has killed all the peace makers and all we are left with is people who hate each other and have no compassion left for half the population.
On the bright side, I hear NASA has discovered another habitable planet!
Allan, I can certainly sympathize with your sentiments, however… The peacemakers you mentioned are alive and well, not dead. Many are “undercover” in daily life. On top of that, many of these undercover, pan-gender peacemakers assemble here in the GMP Cocktail Lounge. They shed their trench-coats & slouch hats, and regale us with their thoughts, experiences & observations on how we can make the struggle for a better world for both men & women something that leaves less bodies on the floor and in the streets. Hopefully you’ve had occasion to notice how many of those “undercover” peacemakers write here.… Read more »
“male siege mentality”? The trouble is my experience doesn’t fit with a lot of peoples pet notions. I get attacked. I’ve been attacked.
GMP harbors both the gentile party and the street fighters. I feel attacked here. And, you guys just watch out the window while people throw bottles at me.
Sign me up for that shuttle flight.
First, I hope you realize I have no intent of lobbing even imaginary beer bottles at you or anyone else in here.
Frankly, (and feel free to interpet this any way you want) I was expectin’ a helluva lot more of them imagniary beer-bottles here inna comments section than I’ve actually had. As far as the “street fighters” in here goes….
…the best defense is being “street-WISE”…..
Even in this site, supposedly for Good MEN, we are supplied an endless stream of women’s opinions, women’s issues and women’s needs. Scan over some of the articles and they read like a Cosmopolitan, the only article I haven’t seen yet is Hugo agonising over whether his bum looks big in his pair of strides. No wonder there is a male siege mentality.
Yes, I confess I once held a job which required me to read Cosmo and other assorted garbage. I am over it now….mostly.
Isn’t that the point of this site? A feminist ghetto for attacking men endlessly in a patronixzing way? How we should all try harder to not be such rapists and so on? Its sick.
I hope you’re not upset by my commenting here. I comment on this site because I see so much potential for discussion. There are some fantastic people here. And anytime we discuss gender issues, I think it’s helpful to see both sides of the coin (or the complete spectrum, more accurately). I think we can only learn from each other, regardless of gender. I thought the GMP was about learning and sharing, and I am under the impression that women are welcome to join the discussion. At times, I disagree with other commenters, but I certainly won’t try to force… Read more »
Thanks for saying this. It’s hard to find a community where the commenting readers are on the same page. Of course everyone has different ideas about what will make the world a better place, but on both feminist, men’s rights, and humanist websites, you can always find hostility. The kind of hostility that keeps us from helping our fellow human beings and moving forward. I really wish I could find a place where people genuinely wanted to share and cooperate, without having to read through veiled or outright hostile comments that just feel so unwelcoming, and distract us from what… Read more »
It’s interesting for me to note how many wonderful, compassionate women have been attracted to write here. I would like for you, as the women who write here, to know how ingratiating it is that so many of you, no matter what you have to say, have one common thread. That thread is your mutual wish to cheer men on as we all, regardless of gender, pick our way through the mine field modern life has become. The delightful irony of this is that it causes me to generate a fantasy in my own head of a swanky cocktail party… Read more »
Yes! This! Or.. more of this. More of understanding that saying problem still exists doesn’t mean I hate men or blame all men or something. More of understanding that women can express their anger (yes! anger! there are things to be angry about!) over the bias they face in their own lives without being called a man-basher. More understanding that, even if something (e.g. the Patriarchy) harms you, you can still benefit from it – and you can still work from inside that to change it – and me saying that doesn’t mean I am blaming you for it. One… Read more »
The reason that there is no gender war outside of the feminist/masculist movements is that most people realize that we are in this together. They see society as a whole, in proportion with reality, not through a fun-house-mirror prism, which make things look out of proportion. I think that feminists will begin the road to getting a listening ear among the general populace when they recognize and candidly and openly acknowledge that: 1. Humans in general are struggling, not just women. Helping women and girls helps men but helping men and boys also helps women. Ignoring (or disproportionately considering) the problems/issies of either… Read more »
I know that we are in this together, and that helping women helps men and helping men helps women, and that there are other groups that have it hard, that we are all struggling . But – these things do not mean the end of a patriarchal system, or that “male privilege” doesn’t exist. Moreover, this isn’t a pissing contest of who is most disenfranchised (i.e. upper class white lady vs. inner city black boy – if we don’t like labels or pitting group against group, don’t do it). Augh. This is what I’m trying to talk about. The underlying… Read more »
Does the Mexican immigrant fruit picker have “male privilege?” If so, what does the white suburban late-model SUV driving soccer mom have? Do you believe that “white female privilege” exists? If so, why don’t feminists ever acknowledge it? If not, how do you explain how the Mexican fruit picker has privilege but the white SUV driving soccer mom who graduated from William & Mary doesn’t? “Moreover, this isn’t a pissing contest of who is most disenfranchised (i.e. upper class white lady vs. inner city black boy – if we don’t like labels or pitting group against group, don’t do it).”… Read more »
When I hear a feminist say “male privilege” without saying what she means, I know I have a bigot on my hands. So what exactly, and I mean EXACTLY did you mean by that? because what I heard is “fuck all men”.
Eric, can we agree that perhaps it is dicey to try to measure who is “most” privileged in a general sense? The nature of identifying privilege is that it is unique to the situation. As Peter said, in an equality movement, “victimhood” gives privilege in that it offers “credibility” to the movement. Privilege is an important term to be able to discuss, but you cannot say someone has “privilege” without qualifying what that privilege is. You do that when speaking of white women having it, when you qualify what you’re basing this upon. But even this sort of blanketing of… Read more »
“Eric, can we agree that perhaps it is dicey to try to measure who is “most” privileged in a general sense? “ “The nature of identifying privilege is that it is unique to the situation. “ “Privilege is an important term to be able to discuss, but you cannot say someone has “privilege” without qualifying what that privilege is.” I agree with all of the above, which is why I have tried to point out the absurdity of the term “male privilege.” The facts show that “male privilege” does not exist in any broad sense in the United States, based… Read more »
Eric, I note how the feminists get tetchy and dont want to discuss who has more privilege in your country. The average white middle-middle class and above, american woman? Or the average underclass african american man?
Excellent work Eric
Their attempts to silence you Eric fail. Good stuff fella
I’m glad you guys were able to agree on that. This isn’t meant to be directed at anyone in specific, but one of my least favourite things is listening to people argue about who’s more hard done by. You know those people who you can’t tell you had a cold, because they’ll say “oh man, I had a FLU! And it was the worst ever! And my car is in the shop! And I’m in debt!” Even though they know you had a cold, don’t even have a car, and have a jillion dollars of student debt? That’s what I… Read more »
It’s hard to measure male privilege because it doesn’t exist. It’s not at all hard to measure female privilege. Define your metric, look up the statistics. Do you want to look at quality of life indexes (as used by the UN to compare people in different countries)? Look up the figures. Find women are better educated than men, live longer than men etc. It is not hard. Or perhaps the topic is something less objective. Still it can easily be named. Not so male privilege. Male privilege cannot be measured, cannot be described. It is a will o the wisp.… Read more »
There is a gender war in the larger society. It is there because of feminist hatred of men which is the dominant social view of gender. Even though most people reject it at a conscious level many women assume it unconsciously. Its enormously destructive.
NikkiB: “More understanding that, even if something (e.g. the Patriarchy) harms you, you can still benefit from it – and you can still work from inside that to change it – and me saying that doesn’t mean I am blaming you for it. ”
No but you basically invalidate the harms that were done to me by girls and women along with boys and men by saying I benefit from Patriarchy.
If you read my article I contributed, you’ll understand why I find “you still benefit from Patriarchy” invalidating, hurtful and irksome to deal with.
This is nice debate and I agree the arguing back and forth doesn’t help. What would help if women took care of ourselves first. We are so socialized to care about everyone but ourselves all day and it’s physically and emotionally draining. I get frustrated and then I snap and become numb. I just can’t have empathy for everyone at one time. I do better when I take care of myself first.
Miss Valerie,
You may be assured that EVERYONE (god, I wish I could use italics to emphasize a word in here) does better when they take care of themselves first.
I have witnessed the almost “martyr-driven” complex some women have about living exclusively by the creedo of “Others First” as well as the damage is does. I often compare it to the male mantra of success being driven by “never quit, never surrender”. I’ve seen the damage THAT does too….
If it is only a vocal minority of feminists, then they’re certainly overrepresented and highly placed. Think about the kind of damned lie-, sorry, statistics produced by groups like the American Women’s Council, or the Irish Women’s Council. Think about the arguments they make. Think about the solutions they propose and the language they use. I suspect that average jane on the street doesn’t buy into it hook line and sinker, but feminism is very often an extremist movement. Even theoretical constructs like “patriarchy” and “rape culture” which are used by the majority of feminists, moderate or extreme, are quite… Read more »
“…dismissing or discounting male suffering.”
So over rated!
“discounting male” is usually enough – the discounted suffering is optional and at management discretion!
… less taxes of course!
Joanna: “But Nicole, who are these women who are waging war against men? It’s not Meghan, as far as I can tell. Feminists? Some feminists? Not me, not any feminists I know in real life. A vocal minority of feminists perhaps, are trying to wage war against men. And maybe Hymowitz, whose book gets a lot of press, but I’m not sure represents the opinions of the vast majority of women.” Why are they allowed a voice in the movement then? It’s because your movement doesn’t want to be known as a monolith so it’s a variety of viewpoints, which… Read more »
And I would say the same thing to the Men’s Rights advocates and their extreme, right-wing, traditionalist members.
Blame the victim. Traditional feminist territory.
I think people would respect modern feminism more if we had more women such as the author calling out the bad ones, actually talking about Female responsibility instead of blaming men 100% and also not dismissing or discounting male suffering. Even if men only have 10% of the issues women face, that’s still 3.5 billion who are potentially affected, who suffer abuse and CAN add to the abuse cycle, who suffer in silence because we have a hardon for focusing only on the bigger loser so to speak. It’d also help if some/more feminists respected the REAL MRA/masculist movement instead… Read more »
Jun, Males are definitely discriminated against in the family courts! I have friends who are going through the same horrible fights to get custody of kids whose mothers have proven records of neglect, substance use, even verbal abuse, that my friends’ father went through back in the very early 80s. The courts just assume women are good mothers and that is such bulls***! I know kids who were physically abused by their mother, but not until one ended up in the hospital with her bloody teethmarks in her 8 year-old’s back, did the father finally get custody. Sick. I must… Read more »
Discussing privilege doesn’t and shouldn’t mean dismissing the arguments of others, but from what I’ve seen it usually does. Fundamentally its an ad hominem attack, a claim that an opponent’s ideas stem purely from their particular blindness, rather than dealing directly with the ideas themselves. Ad hominem arguments can be correct, they can even be relevant to a debate. But they’re very very rarely constructive and even when they’re intended to be they usually have the opposite effect and cause the target of the ad hominem to become defensive and less likely to listen to counter arguments, however relevant they… Read more »
“Within equality movements, victimhood is a privileged status. The more victimised a person is, the more they have a right to speak.” Oh that is so true! It’s been a factor in race, gender, sexuality, disability – in fact when minority becomes the issue the “victimhood as privileged status”, gets trotted out and enshrined. It’s easier to make a river run up hill than get some to drop even one grain of the Victim Status. I’m not just saying that – I live with two minority statuses and have been dealing with Human Rights and Equality for 30 plus years.… Read more »
“I say this because pointing out someone’s privilege doesn’t have to mean dismissing hurt, fear, anxiety, or wrongs done to the person in any way. People abuse that word, they take it and they wield it like a weapon with the intent to avoid facing complicated issues or addressing people’s feelings and questions with respect. Facing privilege, to me, is more about recognizing where you come from and seeing that you can’t know things until you’re confronted with them.” Bingo! It’s really a word that I try to use very sparingly, and only with people that know exactly precisely what… Read more »
It’s amazing that “privilege” and “bigot” are on the same level in their capacity to shut down a conversation, but I believe, L, that you’re correct in equating them. I do believe “bigoted” is mostly used in regards to race, but of course that isn’t the technical definition and it can be a useful term if you don’t mind nobody actually listening to you after you say it. But yes, “privilege” is just too misunderstood to be constructive in most conversations of these types. People are so hurt to think that they don’t know EVERYTHING and can’t understand EVERY person’s… Read more »
Admitting privilege can be useful, admitting one benefits from privilege is something I don’t see much in women. Eg women benefit overall from less violence towards your gender then men (WHO stats showing men suffer up to 2.6x more violence overall). Women also generally are not conscripted into war and having to defend the nation, you may say this treats women as weaker and is sexist towards them but it’s also sexist in assuming male life is worth less, having to sacrifice for women and children and that men are disposable whilst women are afforded a special protection like children… Read more »
Well said, Jun! The notion of a “patriarchy,” as evidenced by all the men occupying positions of supreme power, is swiftly undermined when you notice all the men occupying positions of extreme poverty, danger, and death.
If there were a true ‘male privilege’ in our society, then men at ALL levels would be better off than the women in those same demographic strata. But they’re not.
By claiming the title of feminist you nullify everything male positive you have said.
I think they’re “allowed a voice in the movement” because feminism’s not really a card-carrying club. It’s a philosophy with many branches. I choose to call myself a feminist because I believe in equality for men and women. I like to think we can help each other regardless of gender. Someone else may call themselves a feminist because they want to help only women. There are a lot of labels in the world we can choose to apply to ourselves. I’m also a humanist. Why do I still use the word feminist? Because at it’s roots, feminism is about equality.… Read more »
This is not even close to an issue in general society. Where do you ever hear tell of “gender war” outside of the involvement of feminism and/or masculism/MRA? That gender war is the domain of the feminist and masculist movements is evidence that they stir them up where they do exist.
One problem I have observed is that because these movements seldom if ever see any side other than their own. When is there only one side?
So true.
Eric when it come to a good war there are always three sides – everyone knows that!
There is your side!
There is their side!
And there is The Truth!
The first casualty of war is always The Truth.
When couples fight, it’s always the outsider in the “Ménage à trois” that gets thrown to the wolves! P^)
Now *that* is *really* true!
Correction:
One problem I have observed is that these movements seldom if ever see any side other than their own. When is there only one side?
This myth of feminists and MRAs being equivalent is utter nonsense. It is a delusion deriving from looking at the situation in a superficial way, in terms of opposing teams with differing beliefs and subjective opinions. It simply does not hold up to scrutiny. If I identify myself as an MRA it is almost by default because it is closer to the truth to describe myself as an objectivist in that I pay attention to the evidence of my senses and simple observations more than ideology. Facts are not mine or anyone’s side, they are merely facts. Because feminism is… Read more »
Note to MOD: Trying to understand this policy. This applies only when feminism is included in a generalized negative statement, not to all negative generalizations (e.g. all men), correct? Quite a few other sites have the same policy, and it’s within your rights to have whatever policy you choose. But it would be helpful to have clarity on it. MODERATOR’S NOTE: We do not allow negative generalizations against men either, but they are much harder to flag and moderate. Those are often caught only when a commenter has made repeated negative generalizations against men, at which point we flag that… Read more »
Dear MOD:
A recently posted article said that, “The North American male is obsessed with violence.” Not just a comment, an article.
By contrast, what are the odds of an article getting posted that stated that, “The North American feminist is obsessed with violence?”
As I said, many sites’ policy’s allow such generalizations about men and other groups but disallow them about feminists. I’m not challenging your right to have that policy as well; just pointing out that that is what it appears to be.
“Finally, it is not anti-man to point out inequalities in the workplace or anywhere else.” Yes. Nor is it anti woman, to discuss honestly the things we do that men find frustrating.
What’s “anti” is summing up groups of people in a simplistic way (in either direction). Things can seem simple but have a complex background.
What Julie said. 🙂
Julie
It is anti-male to blame men for inequalities in the work force that are created by women’s personal choices.
edit to that
Its anti-female too, because it denies female agency.
Women have to stop projecting onto men, its time to grow up and leave the patriarchy. Feminism and feminists, have to stop with their patriarchy thinking, men are not here to service women, men are no longer to be to blame for the actions of women.
I agree, Ron, but feminism has mutated to the point that it is no longer concerned with equality and responsibility. It’s become a professional victims’ society, and they won’t let go of their universal excuse for all of women’s problems.
Fortunately, women’s cooperation is not needed for men to reject the responsibility of making women happy.
Well said.
Joanna, thank you for your feedback. I truly appreciate your professionalism and position. As I mentioned to Julie Gillis, I would love to have an in-person round table discussion with you, Julie, Lisa, Tom, Hugo, and Meghan Casserly on this topic. I sincerely believe that every writer at The Good Men Project is helping everyone (including each other) grow and evolve on a personal and professional level. I feel blessed to be a part of a company that allows us to challenge ourselves and each other on a daily basis. Thank you once again for sharing your perspective!