Video: Pastor Tells Parents to Punch Girlish Sons

 

In one minute and 45 seconds Pastor Sean Harris explains why some variations of religion may not be the best influence on the way children should be raised.

Just in case you’re having a hard time hearing this here is a transcript of the clip:

“So your little son starts to act a little girlish when he is four years old and instead of squashing that like a cockroach and saying, ‘Man up, son, get that dress off you and get outside and dig a ditch, because that is what boys do,’ you get out the camera and you start taking pictures of Johnny acting like a female and then you upload it to YouTube and everybody laughs about it and the next thing you know, this dude, this kid is acting out childhood fantasies that should have been squashed….Can I make it any clearer? Dads, the second you see your son dropping the limp wrist, you walk over there and crack that wrist. Man up. Give him a good punch. Ok? You are not going to act like that. You were made by God to be a male and you are going to be a male.

And when your daughter starts acting too butch, you reign her in. And you say ‘Oh no, oh no sweet heart. You can play sports. Play em. Play em to the glory of god. But sometimes you’re going to act like a girl and walk like a girl and talk like a girl and smell like a girl. And that means you’re gonna be beautiful, you’re gonna be attractive, you’re gonna dress yourself up.’”

Some pretty messed up stuff right? Johnny being punched to remind him that he should “man up”. Suzy (I just gave her that name) being allowed to play sports as long as she remembers to “act like a girl”.

But when confronted on his words and views he says that he was joking about the words but still stood by those views.

I’m not a religious person and stuff like this is why. How in the world can people write off such treatment of anyone, much less children, as a joke and claim that enforcing gender roles on children that restrict who they want to be as acting in the name of a God that supposedly loves everyone?

And is it any surprise that this is happening in a state where barely a week from now there will be a vote on an amendment to the state constitution to define marriage as one man/one woman?

What do you think of Pastor Sean Harris? 

 

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Comments

  1. Wow at this time and age you are saying slap that rist and man up. my son is not gay. But, people are borm liking and loving the same sex. I am ashamed of you!!!!!
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  2. I don’t advocate punching anybody, but the good reverend is giving me cause to reconsider. He’s an asshole who has just given people permission to beat up children. Did you note the part where he says “when your son shows a limp wrist, break it.”

    We all know that if you put a hundred people in the room and tell them that god wants abortion doctor A to leave this earth, one of them will take it as a request to do murder. And they will do it. This is no different. Children’s bones will be broken, and it will be done at this man’s request.

    Pastor Sean Harris is Satan. Plain and simple. He’s not joking. And he knows it.

    • Frank Mundo says:

      Amen! Let’s lift the rock and let Harris crawl back under. Scary people listen to this stuff.

  3. wellokaythen says:

    I totally read this against the grain. The glass is almost totally empty, but there is a little drop of a reason for optimism. The part about girls playing sports really caught my attention. There’s some sort of egalitarian progress evident here – heck yeah, girls can play sports, there’s nothing unfeminine about playing sports (as long as blah blah blah). That’s quite an unusual statement for a gender paleo-conservative. Even the extremist traditionalists have been dragged kicking and screaming towards a tiny piece of equality. Careful, Reverend, your grandfather might have labeled you as a “women’s libber”….

    Meh. I’m not too shocked. I associate this kind of thing with organized religion already. If your son listens to heavy metal music, you should burn him as a witch.

    I still don’t get the omnipotence/free will interface. If you are gay, and everything that happens is part of God’s plan, then didn’t God intend you to be gay? If you are going against God’s will, then that makes you more powerful than God, which means God isn’t really omnipotent. Seems like the whole “God’s will” argument is a deadend.

  4. wellokaythen says:

    [Sarcasm]
    Great advice. If you successfully change your child’s mannerisms through beatings, then your gay sons will be strictly butch gay men, and your lesbian daughters will be strictly femme lesbians. Congratulations on defeating homosexuality….

  5. Copyleft says:

    You should definitely teach your child about religion–the same way you teach him about drugs, smoking, and tanking candy from strangers.

  6. Just beat the gay away….or beat the butch out of you girl…works every time, doesn’t it?

    What a maroon!

  7. What a horrifying human being.

  8. Why doesn’t this mans words surprise me. Men like him having been using selective quotes of text from the “Words of God” to mislead unknowing people for thousands of years. I was more distressed by the sounds of the cheers coming from the parents sitting in his congregation. Its scary when you not only see an evil man using his words to mislead another, but it’s also frightening to see how many people are willing to be mislead. He personally (using the name of God of course) gave his followers permission to beat their children if they show any tendencies that aren’t God like. Only an evil man would tell one child of God to beat another child of God. And, I’m also curious about something else. I am a mother of five children, how exactly are children supposed to “smell”. Not only was he blatantly going on about homosexuality, he was loosely asserting that there is a special way that girls are supposed to dress and act and “smell”. That man has some serious issues. Homophobia is just the tip of the iceberg.

  9. Eric M. says:

    Really confused here. Punching any kid is bad but why are girlish boys the only kinds of boys whose welfare matters? How come nobody gives a crap about regular boyish boys? Why is it that the suggestion of punching a girlish boy elicits shock and outage but regular boyish boys, especially black ones, are shot in the street like animals by the hundreds with no (zero) shock, outrage, or even care? Maybe if they need to start cross dressing.

    Why is it so perfectly okay for boyish boys to be shot and killed by the hundreds every week that it gets ignored but so horrible to suggest punching a girlish boy? Why are girlish boys so precious but regular boys so worthless?

    Thousands of black boys murdered is okey dokey but if one gay teenager who gets bullied there is outrage, it makes the national news, demands for Congressional action are made.

    • What are you talking about? Trayvon Martin’s death was the biggest source of outrage so far this year. If a white pastor was advocating violence against black boys for any reason, the outrage would have been ten times as huge.

      I agree that “average” boys/men and their struggles are completely overlooked sometimes because people assume erroneously that they’re privileged, but there no way that gay males are treated with more regard than black males.

      • Eric M. says:

        I’m talking about the fact that Trayvon Martin was one of 19 young black boys or men murdered that day? Question: what are the names of the other 18?

        How about the 19 murdered the day after that? Can you name any of them? How about the 19 murdered the day before? Who were they?

        How about the 19 murdered every day since then. How many of them have you heard about? Probably close to, if not, zero.

        Why not? Fact is, they don’t matter.

        By contrast, how much has been said about bullying gays? When have you EVER heard about the problem of black heterosexual boys being bullied? Like, ever?

        Which Hollywood stars have come out in support of them? They’re obviously not only bullied more, they’re murdered far more. 

        This is not a personal attack on you. I’m pointing out the FACT that these human brings are invisible, usually treated as disposable – unless they claim to be gay.  THEN, any meanness toward them is greeted with abhorrence, as compared to the indifference the murders of their heterosexual peers is greeted with. 

        The contrast is interesting and revealing.

        • matera says:

          “Which Hollywood stars have come out in support of them? They’re obviously not only bullied more, they’re murdered far more.”

          You are simply wrong, as far as bullying goes. The most bullied ethnicity is Asian-American. Also, being LGBT makes you more likely to be bullied than any race:

          http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/11/03/preventing-bullying-and-empowering-our-communities

          “How about the 19 murdered every day since then. How many of them have you heard about? Probably close to, if not, zero.”

          First of all, only a vanishingly small number of murders will ever be national news. The murders that become the target of outrage are ones that are chosen by the media because the circumstances make a good, attention grabbing story. Travon Martin’s homicide became national new mainly because he was one of the very few black males who wasn’t killed by another black male, thus allowing the media to push a narrative involving racism. Killings that don’t involve bigotries don’t make good new items. There are tons of bullying, assault and murder cases where the victim is a gay male that we never hear about because they won’t make for good news. I know this because I read a lot gay media where murders of gay men are interest stories to the readership (usually involving porn stars) but I never hear of them beyond that because they’re not hate crimes.

    • In this context I was only talking about “girlish boys” being treated this way because that’s what the pastor was talking about.

      Why is it so perfectly okay for boyish boys to be shot and killed by the hundreds every week that it gets ignored but so horrible to suggest punching a girlish boy? Why are girlish boys so precious but regular boys so worthless?
      I think that happens because there is a prevailent thought that the only boys that get knocked around are the girlish ones. There is an assumption that “the regular ones” will fight back, thus not having a need for help.

      • “Why are girlish boys so precious but regular boys so worthless?”

        Yeah, girlish boys are soooooooooo overvalued in our society. I mean, that’s why we’ve got so few slurs against feminine boys and men. And that’s why being perceived as gender non-conforming is a source of pride among teens today. That’s why we’ve (finally) managed to separate sexual orientation from gender in societal condemnation…because everyone now loves feminine men even when they’re a bit squeamish about gay men. The two aren’t confused at all, and anti-gay slurs aren’t ever used to put down feminine men. Because our society just loves feminine men that much.

        • That was really sarcastic and really full of anger. I recognize that.

        • Eric M. says:

          When girlish boys/men are bullied and murdered at the same rate as, and with the same silent indifference as black boys and young men (19 murders a day) and when movie stars, athletes, and other rich and famous people call for specific support and protection of black boys and men from bullying and murder just as they do for girlish boys, THEN you will have a point.

          Let me know when that happens.

          • http://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/suicide/statistics/rates02.html

            Well look at that…apparently black men are less likely than white men to commit suicide, and seeing as what we’re talking about is bullying and suicide… Oh, and the CDC statistics don’t even discuss the differences between suicide based on different sexual identities. Because everyone cares about it so much, they don’t even look at statistics about it. There you go.

            http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/suicide-in-the-us-statistics-and-prevention/index.shtml – Nowhere on that page does it mention sexual orientation or gender non-conformity. Nowhere. Because everyone cares so much.

            • Oh, I’d provide stats about gay bashing (as compared to anti-African-American crimes), but seeing as it’s not considered a federal hate crime, I can’t get official statistics on it. But yeah…society cares so much.

            • Eric M. says:

              Really smooth subject change.

              Your comment has nothing to do with what I specifically asked about. Suicide wasn’t even mentioned anywhere in the article. Really not follwoing why you disregard the murder of these boys and young men as if killing yourSELF is so much worse than being killed by someone ELSE.

              Bullying leading to suicide has been occuring for many decades, if not thousands of years. But, for some reason, only when it has in recent years involved gay boys/young men has it become a national issue of concern. Why don’t the suicides of non-girlish boys matter enough to make it onto national news stories too? Can you cite one case where the bullying of a non-girly, non-gay (or suspected gay) boy/young man leading to suicde been a national story?

  10. Valter Viglietti says:

    “What do you think of Pastor Sean Harris?”

    Well, in my language (Italian), a “pastor” is a shepherd.
    But since I love animals, I wouldn’t let him even lead a bunch of sheep; sheep obviously need (and deserve) someone more intelligent than that.

    Joking aside, it’s worth noticing that people speaking “for God”, are often the least Christ-like.
    In other words, the more your hear someone talking about God, the more he’s probably devilish; using “god” to conceal his evilness.

    • “I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.” – Susan B Anthony

  11. this guy makes me ill. not much else i can say.

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