I’ve had a bad couple days, so I’ve decided that there’s exactly one solution: find an idiot on the Internet and call them stupid until I feel better. Today’s idiot comes to us courtesy of the PJ Lifestyle, offering up 7 Mistakes Women Make With Men.
Do you want to know what the mistakes are? A lot of them boil down to “treating him like a human being!”
I’m puzzled listening to my female friends tell me they don’t understand men. This is like a rocket scientist telling you she can’t figure out how a flush toilet works.
Spoken like someone who has never tried to date a man.
Seriously, men are fully capable of every bit of “I love you but I’m not in love with you,” “I totally want to date you but I’m still not over my ex, wait, you took that seriously, of course I don’t want to date you,” “if we have casual sex that means you’re in love with me, right?”, “I want to be poly, wait, no, I just found my One True Love and now we’re monogamous!” confusing-ass self-contradictory bullcrap that women are.
You see, occasional incomprehensibility is not limited to one gender or another, but is a universal trait of all human beings in a romantic context. I’m pansexual. We know these things.
There’s actually no wrong answer [about when to have sex] per se. If the guy is really clicking well enough with you, he’s probably going to stick around regardless of whether it happens on the first date or your wedding day.
If there is not a wrong answer, then it is not a mistake, PJ Lifestyle! I mean, yes, it IS a mistake to have sex with people on the fourth date if you only want to have sex within a committed relationship, but that is not a mistake women make about men, that is a mistake people make about people. (See my earlier statement re: men being complicated.)
Now with men, if you study cultures around the world, contrary to what you hear about gender being a “social construct,” you’ll find that “masculinity” revolves around the same basic traits everywhere.
It does. Really. So, um, the Wodaabe? And Aristophanes arguing that gay men are the manliest because they love masculine things?
A) Being productive or having a lot of resources
B) Being capable of fighting
C) Being courageous and tough
D) Being able to attract women
E) Having status
Success myth, men as violent, men as violent, men as hypersexual, success myth. Don’t you just love it when people validate your theories?
Speaking of empirical validation, I just told a dude that he was incapable of fighting and lacking in productive resources, and he said that since he wasn’t playing Civilization at the moment that all seemed rather immaterial. Which just shows you that insulting people properly takes empathy– you have to find the bits that they, personally, are insecure about, not the bits everyone called “he” is insecure about. Are men more likely than women to be insecure about their toughness or their status? Probably. But it isn’t universal.
Bitter, man-hating women aren’t any more attractive to the opposite sex than angry misogynistic men are to women.
Dude. As a feminist, I must say, I have never compared men to motherfucking flush toilets.
Men are not as comfortable with their emotions as women. Typically, we don’t use our emotions as often or as fully as women, we don’t get in as many emotional situations, and we feel extremely uncomfortable with the idea of crying or getting choked up.
So is this one of those universal non-gender-construct things? Because let me inform you that there is a fuckton of manly weeping in the Iliad.
Again, this is probably true throughout our culture: men will tend to be less likely to cry and be in contact with their emotions than women. But is this because men have manly-man man feelings, or because many men get very early negative conditioning that if they cry people will make fun of them or punch them? Rhetorical.
Depending on their mental state, there are a lot of women who can break into tears if a waiter brings them the wrong kind of salad dressing. But to a man, a woman crying over something he did means that he FAILED as a man to protect her and worse yet, he did the opposite and inflicted pain on someone he cares about.
Okay, look, if you’re breaking into tears because a waiter brings you the wrong kind of salad dressing, that’s not “lol women are so overemotional lol hysteria lol,” that’s a sign that something is seriously wrong. Could be depression, could be grief, could be severe PMS, could be stress, could be an eating disorder, but the one thing it is not is normal. And when your partner is going through something seriously wrong, the right answer is not “RARRRGH I AM MANLY MAN I BEAT UP THE MAMMOTH OF YOUR FEEEEEEELINGS“, the answer is to listen and provide support and maybe recommend a therapist.
Also the title of the section is “manipulate his emotions,” but as far as I can tell this entire section is about how you shouldn’t have emotions yourself.
It’s also why men tend to do something else that women really hate: just disappearing instead of ending a relationship properly.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU THINK ONLY MEN DO THAT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *wipes tears* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Even if it doesn’t SEEM tough and they do make a lot of changes, don’t be surprised if the man eventually feels emasculated and backslides.
…Or, you know, people are really quite happy that they don’t have parents anymore and are annoyed to suddenly find their partners fulfilling that role. That works too.
Many women will just discount [nice men] right off the bat because they think they’re weak, boring, fake, etc.
You know, it is possible to be nice AND weak, boring, and fake. They’re not mutually contradictory. I always get pissed off when people say “Oh, you should date someone nice,” because I spent my first three boyfriends dating people who were nice and whom I wasn’t attracted to or interested in as people. You know what? Being nice is not sufficient for a relationship. They deserved better than someone who felt obligated to date them.
Things that are SCREAMINGLY OBVIOUS for a woman may blow past a man like a frisbee in a hurricane.
Once again, I’m the one that hates men?
Honestly, I’m not sure if men or women come off worse in the next paragraph. Men, for instance, can’t remember their girlfriends’ eye colors and aren’t interested in what their girlfriends are concerned about; meanwhile, women are only concerned with fashion and their paranoia that their boyfriends will leave them.
You’ll probably never see a man write off a woman as not even worth having a conversation with because she had scuffed shoes or because she doesn’t have a lot of money.
Look, dudes, I want you to think for five minutes here. Do you really want people who are shallow enough that they don’t want to date you because you have scuffed shoes to actually date you? If they’re filtering themselves out of your dating pool, that is a good thing!
As I hate to leave everyone with negativity, I would like to replace these 7 Mistakes Men Make About Women with 7 Mistakes People Make About People. Now with 100% less fail!
1) Sleep with someone before you feel comfortable.
2) Act insensitively around things they feel insecure about.
3) Hate people of any gender.
4) Not support your partners when they’re going through a hard time.
5) Try to change people.
6) Believe that no good partners of the appropriate gender exist.
7) Overanalyze, be unable to take interest in your partner’s life, or not remember basic details about your partner.






















It would also explain why men don’t want other men crying in their presence. Empathy hurts, and as men’s natural reflex is to make it stop any way they can, so if they can’t fix the problem, they’d want to at least make the crying STOP.
i feel like the main question remains unanswerd, are you cheered up after this ozy or is there something that could make you feel better and as a reader can be done for you?
and you got me on the BUWAHAHA part as it just happend to me a while back with somone playing a vanishing act only to reappear a month later with wedding plans and me telling her to find some support.
So, do you feel better after beating up on some blogger you never met?
Does merely ‘translating’ what the other guy wrote into ‘non-gendered’ language really make all that much difference?
You might want to take up boxing, or some other vigorous physical activity to work off your more aggressive impulses.
Amen.
Hosstale: You might want to take up boxing, or some other vigorous physical activity to work off your more aggressive impulses.
Isn’t that the whole purpose of blogging?
@Hosstale:
I think the answer to that was given in the frst paragraph: I’ve had a bad couple days, so I’ve decided that there’s exactly one solution: find an idiot on the Internet and call them stupid until I feel better.
“I saw somewhere an article about men having lower tolerance for drama than women, for example much higher stress levels when in the presence of a crying baby. Evolutionary explanation being that men are supposed to drop whatever they were doing and go fight off whatever is making the baby / wife cry, immediately.”
I am extremely dubious about this – if only because of the pat yet vague explanation about men dropping everything to fight etc. If the simplest explanation is usually correct it rings more true to me that this is socialised (and very powerful in most societies) than the idea of male humans evolving such specific psychological responses.
And of course personally I have a very low tolerance for drama and I am a cis woman. This is most likely due to being brought up in a very “dramatic”, verbally abusive household with both (het) parents suffering from panic attacks. People screaming makes me very angry, until I stifle it, I have to fight my saviour complex when someone is very upset (I hurt who hurt you, grunt), and small babies scare me. I deal well with immediate crises that I can *fix*, not so much with interpersonal drama.
Of course, I try my best to be a good *person*, so I can jiggle a baby to sleep if I have to, give hugs to crying people if they need it (hugging as a skill is a work in progress for me) and I don’t punch people who make high pitched noises in excitement or fear.
@Dana Reid:
“I am extremely dubious about this – if only because of the pat yet vague explanation about men dropping everything to fight etc. If the simplest explanation is usually correct it rings more true to me that this is socialised (and very powerful in most societies) than the idea of male humans evolving such specific psychological responses.”
I also doubt the explanation, but the experiment was done with toddlers to reduce the possibility of it being socialization. As for evolving specific psychological responses, there is precedent for such when it comes to empathy triggered by built-in distress signals in one’s species, as well as other cases such as pheromones. There is surely individual variation, but also if there’s a significant gender difference, what happens with LGBTQ? Is it tied to gender identity, orientation, hormones, or something else? I can think of a few regular posters here who might have insights…
“And of course personally I have a very low tolerance for drama and I am a cis woman. This is most likely due to being brought up in a very “dramatic”, verbally abusive household with both (het) parents suffering from panic attacks.”
Just because there’s a genetic predisposition for something doesn’t mean you can’t have it (metaphorically) beaten out of you. FWIW, my childhood was similar.
“I deal well with immediate crises that I can *fix*, not so much with interpersonal drama.”
Which would be exactly the stereotypical male response, what this study suggests is that the cause is a high level of stress – which you experience due to socialization.