Ten Things I Can Tell You About Black Porn

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Pittsburgh native Damon Young (aka “The Champ”) is the co-founder of VerySmartBrothas.com. Their first book Your Degrees Won’t Keep You Warm At Night: The Very Smart Brothas Guide To Dating, Mating and Fighting Crime is available at Amazon.com

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  1. The fact that #7 is one line – all alone – by itself, w/ no elaboration whatsoever – but I still know what you mean – is hilarious! Good post sir.

  2. Very interesting, and yes, entertaining.

    A post about porn with little-to-no hand-wringing? The comments will be interesting…

  3. You sir are definitely a pornoisseur, good points. 1B, makes a lot of sense hadn’t thought about it that way.

  4. As someone who works in the porn industry and has made a living writing for it and about it, some of these statements are a little misleading…
    I am going to go down through the list, 1-10 and give you my un-asked-for two cents.

    1. Black men are popular more in white porn and interracial porn, while black women (Pinky, Jada, all of the heatwave girls) are more popular/sell more in black porn. That being said, the reason that there is a larger name exposure for a lot of the black actors is because, in complete opposite of so-called ‘white porn companies’, most male black performers are also directors or producers of the product they star in. Therefor you get guys who star in all of the white porn for their girth and length, and then star in every movie they perform in/direct in as well, doubling their exposure. The statement that black actresses command a lot less for their scene than their white counterparts revolves entirely around each actress specifically and which companies they work for. Heatwave hires almost exclusively amateurs and strippers-turned-actresses, while Digital Playground, a ‘white porn company’ hires only bigname pornstars/internet famous models. While Digital Playground spends a lot more monthly on actress retainers and 5 video contracts, they make a lot less money profit-wise than Heatwave or White Ghetto do, this being shown by their huge problems with DRM issues and such lately.
    2. The vast majority of all porn is gonzo, to the tune of like 78 percent of all non parody porn. Stating that most black porn is gonzo is like stating that black americans like eating pizza. So does everyone else, it has nothing to do with race.
    3. You are absolutely correct, and it fucking sucks.
    4. This again has nothing to do with race specific porn, BBW porn has been at the top of the popularity list for like a decade.
    5. This stereotype is a weird one to handle. I have personally felt that the reason behind that stereotype is that statistically more ‘black porn companies’ pay amateur actresses to star in their films, rather than mainstream established actresses thus you get girls with shittier makeup, some not-famous-model-faces and so on. I really don’t know why it is still perpetuated so hard, though. Also- the guys more concerned with faces in all anal films have some other shit going on they need to address I would say.
    6. These girls have just as much sex on camera as they don’t, every actress performs non-sex events and makes appearances, I am not sure where you are getting information saying they’re making their money without sex… one of my favorite experience was related to a Roxy Reynolds joint where she banged for like 6 hours straight, I would say the majority of her work, and all actresses, is usually sex and not self-promotion through other ventures.
    7. Brian Pumper is the fucking shit.
    8. This is true. B. Pumper is the king of self-promotion.
    9. This is true, but there is also a burgeoning problem of anorexia among racially specific porn/chest flattening. The butt injection thing though, definitely crosses racial lines. A lot more white girls have been getting fills done too lately, dumb career move if you ask me.
    10. Agreed.

    • 1. “That being said, the reason that there is a larger name exposure for a lot of the black actors is because, in complete opposite of so-called ‘white porn companies’, most male black performers are also directors or producers of the product they star in.”

      By “opposite” do you mean that mainstream porn has more white female producers/directors, or that the producers/directors tend to stay behind the camera?

      2. Yeah, I know. Just trying to make the point that you have a much better chance of finding fetish and/or themed porn with white actors than you would with black

      4. You don’t think the BBW love is more prominent with black porn?

      5. This makes perfect sense.

      6. From my understanding, women like roxy reynolds have been able to make money by appearing at clubs/holding parties and stripping. I’ve never actually been to any of these events, but from all accounts they usually just strip and don’t do the sex for money thing. I could be wrong, though.

      7. LOL, we’ll agree to disagree on Pumper.

      Anyway, thanks for your well-thought out (and educational) response.

  5. Robert Howard says:

    Interesting article. Being a gay white man, I enjoy seeing black on black and Black on white gay porn. Someone ought to do an in depth article about gay black porn alone.
    I have observed that many gay men of color in these films must be afraid their mothers may someday see the films by the way the act. For example, black on black gay porn, I seldom, if ever, see one guy kiss the other before, during or after.
    Second, the top never seems to have a versatile bone in his body. Bottoms are the same way. Much more rigidity in the various positions.
    On the other hand, when it is a mostly white cast with only one man of color, there is kissing, and some role reversal.

    • “I have observed that many gay men of color in these films must be afraid their mothers may someday see the films by the way the act. For example, black on black gay porn, I seldom, if ever, see one guy kiss the other before, during or after”

      I think that if someone is worried that their mom might see that they’re in a gay porno, kissing a man would probably be the least of their concerns. with that being said, you bring up an interesting point. maybe the sexual rigidity that’s expected of straight black men affects gay black men as well.

  6. #3 is so ridiculously true it’s ridiculous. The references to apes & gorillas, the notion that Big Black Men want to devour innocent White Women is out of control. It’s horrible. Glad you brought it up. I never knew how. lol

    • “The references to apes & gorillas, the notion that Big Black Men want to devour innocent White Women is out of control”

      perhaps there’s a hidden link between men who grew up watching Godzilla movies and producers/directors of interracial porn

  7. Aside: I’d just like to request that future post URLs not have words like “pr0n” and “s3x” so they don’t get blocked at work. Thankyakindly

  8. TheRealB81 says:

    Great post. I was reading this during a training so in my attempt to be slick, I may have missed some crucial points. Nonetheless, I think what’s missing from this conversation and what people SHOULD know about black porn is that black women watch it too…more than one might think. And if Black men see porn from the perspective of “I wish i could be Justin Slayer” then, I think Black women see porn as “I want Justin Slayer to twist my legs like that” lol. And while my guess is completely anecdotal, I believe Black women who enjoy BLACK porn enjoy it because of the uniqueness of the Black sexual experience. We don’t need the joint to be like a soap opera or have the splash of a Hollywood blockbuster. Give us a basic sexual scene and we’ll start placing Justin Slayer in all kinds of scenerios in our minds lol.

    So what’s my point? Well, black women are a completely underserved market and if more porn was created to cater to the perspective of black women, i think the industry would be much easier on the actors and actresses who are in the movies.

    Meeting in 10 minutes and I smell the boss coming..thanks for the digression..carry on.

    • “So what’s my point? Well, black women are a completely underserved market and if more porn was created to cater to the perspective of black women, i think the industry would be much easier on the actors and actresses who are in the movies.”

      you make a valid point. i’ve learned that many black women enjoy porn just as much as men do. thing is, would they actually spend money on it?

      • TheRealB81 says:

        probably not. you can get porn for free on the web. NO ONE should be paying for porn lol.

        Although, the businesswoman in me thinks that consumers pay for what they deem to be “special” or uniquely made for them. So it’s quite possible we’d pay for it if it did a great job at placing our perspective at the center of the experience.

  9. Pissy Drunc says:

    Excellent article! Interesting term I need more elaboration – “legitimately attractive”???….

    • What I meant by that is they’re women who most people would considered to be good looking, whether they were spotted at the mall, teaching high school English, or starring in “Booty Talk 96″

  10. Great article……..I’m a little peeved right now that I had written a spill and the page refreshed on its own…….grrrrrrrrrrr!

    Anyways.

    I would be considered point #6. I have NSFW videos and have been gaining a fanbase. My fanbase is probably smaller than a counterpart in this arena (I’m a Black BBW) but I decided to create a website based off of the demand to see me and my work.

    I’ve been approached over the years for photo shoots and video shoots but I have a big thing about retaining the rights to my image. It’s hard enough to determine who is legitimate and make sure I get proper compensation for what I have to offer. Most don’t realize that they won’t get paid when their image is used after the initial contracted amount.

    But this was a good read and I got a few laughs from it too!

  11. While I find the racism in interracial porn abhorrent, I do find it worthy of pointing out the truism of where fetishes often come from: powerful fears. With all the build-up of racism in our country, sex is a place where it can often be released. Which is where you get your cuckold fantasies, and especially that of “their women” being taken by big, powerful black men. In a climate where white women have been told to constantly fear men in general, and black men in particular, being taken by that same (again, “big, powerful black man…) man or *men* is powerful. And, in a climate where black men are taught they have to be very careful lest they be called a rapist or criminal in some other respect, releasing that… And in a climate where racist language and acts are very real negative threats (and realities) for black men and women, being called those names in a safe environment where they’re actually in control & calling the shots…

    NOW, with that said- again, I find the commercialization of any of the fetishizing of the issue of racism abhorrent. The same things can be said about sexism and rape fantasies and S&M, etc. The extent to which those fantasies exist vs. the popularization of those dynamics in porn is disproportionate, in my estimation anyhow. I would argue that use of racism with possible explanations of fetishes is even more disproportionate in interracial porn. I feel like saying to the producers & actors, “I can get off to interracial porn w/o you having to use that, thank you very much.” I could go further into demand and commerce and the porn industry, but others have capably addressed that.

    I do think it is worthy talking about some of the underpinnings of how and why racism can show up, other than the large fact that we have a very racist society and it is seeping into porn..

    Very nice article, thank you.

    (I am a white woman in a relationship with a black man, fyi.)

    • Great comment, @Noticing. A substantial amount of human activity is a direct result of sexual pursuit and sexual hangups. I’m guessing you could classify the real estate industry as example one of that.

      I had an English professor in college who insisted that some large percentage of white-black ethnic issues stem from a fear that black men will sexually conquest white women (with their massive dicks and all). Never mind the concept of people-ownership and nearly 16 decades of various levels of disenfranchisement after the abolition of explicit slavery.

      That being said, what percentage of B/W porn is intentionally racially-charged? If one character has a parasol and a case of the vapors while the other keeps objecting to her advances on account of “what’s massa gonna think,” there’s a clear-cut agenda. But if it’s a white “actor” humiliating a black “actress,” is it automatically racist, rather than just a humiliations fetish? Same for a black man-white woman cuckold scene.

      I think I disagree with point #10 but only on a limited basis. I think anyone banging an A-List star on camera would receive a career boost. Like if Stacey Dash were ball George Clooney. I could be wrong.

    • “NOW, with that said- again, I find the commercialization of any of the fetishizing of the issue of racism abhorrent.”

      this begs a question: When is fetishizing not abhorrent? Virtually all porn can be considered fetishization to some degree, and while I am turned off by many of the themes present in interracial porn, the fact that I’ve streamed videos with titles like “Big Black Bootys” or whatever means that I can’t exactly get on my moral high horse either. I mean, while the racism (occasionally) bothers me, the sexism sure doesn’t. It’s definitely a sticky issue.

      • This was a good article Damon. I can’t say I know much about this topic, but is more of the racism in black porn targeted to women or targeted to men?

        You said:
        “I mean, while the racism (occasionally) bothers me, the sexism sure doesn’t. It’s definitely a sticky issue.”

        It’s not that sticky. The racism (occasionally) possibly bothers you because you are an Afrian American man. The sexism doesn’t because the sexism is mostly targeted to women. And that’s the disconnect for alot of men. It’s okay to be sexist to women because you’re a man, it’s not okay to be racists because your an African American man. And I suspect a lot of white, Indian and Chinese guys are also okay with the sexism in porn but wouldn’t be as okay with the racism if the racism was targeted to the men more then the women.

        You wrapped up your piece talking about how there would be a black female president before a famous black pornstar and even in that question, there is even an inherent sexism in looking at it that way to begin with. As if black women would be making great strives and achievements inbecoming big name black porn stars then they would the a female black president.

  12. I’ve always thought black women in porn were less fake – no fake boobs, no fake o’s. they still don’t get off whats up w that?but they seem more real and comf in their skin.

    • there’s a thread on one of my favorite message boards that’s strictly devoted to “spotlighting” whenever a porn actress has a legitimate orgasm. My point? I haven’t been to that thread in a while, and I should probably, um, check it out again today

  13. wellokaythen says:

    Just an overthinking straight white boy curious about semantics:

    Does “black porn” mean that the person watching it is black or it’s intended for a black audience or that there are black actors in it? Or is any one of those things? Just curious where you see the boundaries.

    A related question is I wonder if black viewers watch as much “inter-racial” porn as other viewers do — more, less, different kinds?

    • “Does “black porn” mean that the person watching it is black or it’s intended for a black audience or that there are black actors in it? Or is any one of those things? Just curious where you see the boundaries”

      I meant porn targeted towards a black audience, but I occasionally extended the definition to include any porn involving black performers

  14. David Wise says:

    Personally, I find beauty in all women. I probably view more white porn simply because of the sheer volume available (free on the internet, of course). It’s all good to me–black, white, Japanese, Latina, whatever. I don’t make the mistake of comparing and rating the groups. I appreciate everyone’s differences.

  15. Great read especially since I’m a pornossieur as well but I want to know this message board you go to so I can check out the “spotlight” thread.

  16. Darrell Lee says:

    I had a great read. I am a young, black male and I enjoy “Ghetto Gaggers” only the feature with Adina Jewel disturbed me. I will not explain that episode just see for yourselves. I am more into amateur stuff especially gangbangs and tag teams with regular black people . The points you were making were dead on. A point that do not know if it was from the author or a commenter but a nice, decent black is readily available and for a fraction of the price of a Pinky or Roxy Reynolds. It’s entrepreneurship. Cut cost. My friend and I are considering on indulging in amateur porn with real girls of Miami. Yeah, baby.

  17. I think one of the reasons ‘masculinity’ (certainly in the West), it the broadest sense of both terms, is so difficult for Western feminists and women’s rights advocates to engage with, is that white men have not had a visible debate amongst themselves about what it might mean to embody and promote productive modern masculinities – and there isn’t enough (to my mind) criticism from men who are engaged in these debates of the dynamics which promote stale and destructive masculine identities – the game theory approaches to dating, the lack of criticism of institutional protection of sports stars who engage in harmful off field behaviour etc.

    It’s hard for feminists to work with men toward equality, when women critical of these silences are badged with being ‘anti men’ on the one hand, and have no popularly referable body of men’s work to drawn on in the public domain (outside academia and this site).

    This is not the say there is no productive men’s movement, or discussion among men about masculine identity and men’s relationships with women (yes, bear with my hetronormativity for the moment), but it hasn’t coalesced into a coherant set of debates which can be mobilised in a discussion. Feminisms are at least now referable in different schools, and priorities for action etc.

  18. no onecares says:

    And what if a white male is simply attracted to a white female.. dark hair light skin and that image is what they are seeking out. Is it racism that said white male wants to see his fantasy female by herself or with a white male rather than another racial background? Is that so wrong??

    Is it racist that a white girl simply does not want to hook up with an african american? so what if so. We have our attractions and not everyone needs to bed a black male or female (or by that not, not everyone needs to NOT bed a black male or female).

    Maybe we have our attractions and what gets us off and may be lacking in real life sends us surfing the porn free net. I for one despise gang bangs, rape, and other violent porn — white or black partisans period.

    Personally i do not think black males will be happy until every white women beds atleast one black man in their life. … IMO that is racism. You dont get to fuck everything sorry.

  19. no onecares says:

    And what if a white male is simply attracted to a white female.. dark hair light skin and that image is what they are seeking out. Is it racism that said white male wants to see his fantasy female by herself or with a white male rather than another racial background? Is that so wrong??

    Is it racist that a white girl simply does not want to hook up with an african american? so what if so. We have our attractions and not everyone needs to bed a black male or female (or by that not, not everyone needs to NOT bed a black male or female).

    Maybe we have our attractions and what gets us off and may be lacking in real life sends us surfing the porn free net. I for one despise gang bangs, rape, and other violent porn — white or black partisans period.

    Personally i do not think black males will be happy until every white women beds atleast one black man in their life. … IMO that is racism. You dont get to fck everything sorry.

  20. being a porn follower as a black women i have been frustrated in not being able to see beautiful black women represented in porn. the black porn i have seen has actually turned me off. black porn actresses
    are not celebrated as say a jenna jameson. this is a huge problem because lets face it EVERYONE mostly watches porn and if there are no attracted black females being celebrated in these porn then the stereotype is born that no beautiful black women exist or that white women are more attracted than black women which is obviously false. This also ties into the media. You look at the magazine rack and see white girls, turn on the tv and see white girls….why do we need to perpetuate the same in porn? I say more black porn industries need to be born to represent black women posivitely in a sexy tasteful ( as tasteful as you can get in porn) manner.

  21. ps) sorry i was typing too fast lol replace ” attracted” with ATTRACTIVE :)
    forgive me please
    xoxoxox

  22. ahahahahah says:

    lol, no one wants to look at Oprah.

  23. This is HORRIBLY written, I was so distracted by the amount of parenthesis and hyphens that I couldn’t make out a complete sentence….If there is one thing you should know, especially when it comes to PUBLIC blogging, in English we write formally and speak informally.

  24. This is HORRIBLY written, I was so distracted by the amount of parenthesis and hyphens that I couldn’t make out a complete sentence….If there is one thing you should know, especially when it comes to PUBLIC blogging, in English we write formally and speak informally.

  25. This is HORRIBLY written, I was so distracted by the amount of parenthesis and hyphens that I couldn’t make out a complete sentence….If there is one thing you should know, especially when it comes to PUBLIC blogging, in English we write formally and speak informally.

  26. I’ve read in interviews that male adult performers wear their running shoes during sex scenes in order to get better traction because of all of the different positions that they have to be in.

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