Four aspects of masculine immaturity prevent men from being authentic friends with women. I’ve struggled with all of them. I’m learning.
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As a man, I believe mature men can be legitimate, authentic friends with the women we’re sexually attracted to. We can work respectfully alongside them, hang out with them, have lunch with them, talk sincere and impartial with them about their boyfriends and husbands, and do pretty much anything else we’d do with any friend. Mature men can experience sexual attraction and still honor healthy boundaries with women. Mature men can do this. Mature. Men.
On the other hand, adolescent boys—and men perpetually stuck in adolescence—will have difficulty being honest friends with the women they’re sexually attracted to. To be clear, this isn’t about going from intimate relationship to friends. That’s called a breakup and deserves different consideration. The question I’m posing is:
Can men be authentic friends with women they want to sleep with but haven’t and won’t because those women don’t seem interested in sleeping with them?
This blog is about men who, like adolescents new to the sexual experience, haven’t yet learned how to move their sexual energy in healthy, constructive ways; men who live at the mercy of attractions that complicate their interactions with women. Our culture constantly feeds us immature ideas about what it means to be a man: real men win at all costs, make the important rules, make lots of money, sleep with lots of women, have the biggest dick in the room, don’t cry or feel emotions or show weakness, etc. As a result, most adult men are profoundly confused about what it means to be a healthy mature man, whether we admit it or not—and of course most can’t admit it because that would be a mature thing to do. I have been confused for 20 years, and I never even knew it.
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That said, here are four aspects of masculine immaturity that can prevent us from being honest friends with women we’re attracted to:
1. Men have not learned how to be with their sexual energy without having to do something about it.
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Like adolescent boys, most grown men in our culture don’t have a clue how to simply be with the powerful masculine sexual energy coursing through our bodies.
It owns us. The basic story culture has taught me is that I was born an uncontrollable ravenous shark in a pool filled with tasty guppies. I was then given two strong conflicting directives: (a) eating guppies is a measure of a man’s worth, and (b) try not to hurt any guppies. I was then left on my own to deal this dilemma while living inside a sexually charged body ready to pound the bottom out of a boat with every erection. Whenever confronted with intense sexual experiences in my body, I would choose the easiest of shame, sex, or masturbation as my main options for quickly dealing with it.
No one ever taught me how to wield my sexual energy in intentional, respectful ways; how to direct it constructively. Most men never learn this. Most men cope with some version of this inner turmoil in countless unhealthy ways: we sex it, money it, game it, work it, porn it, drug and alcohol it, TV it, shame it, deny it, or anger it into oblivion. But by doing so we live perpetually disoriented, a detriment to ourselves, a detriment to the women we genuinely love, and to those we don’t. As long as a man is owned by his sexual energy, he remains stuck in sexual adolescence. Unfortunately this kind of man is all too common in our world. An attractive, intelligent woman who writes for major blogs recently blasted out this frustrated public denunciation on Facebook: “If a man has a penis, he wants to sleep with you. Period. It doesn’t matter how old he is.”
“If a man has a penis, he wants to sleep with you. Period. It doesn’t matter how old he is.”
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When a Man matures by learning how to be intentional with his sexual energy and not slave to it, he embodies the essence of what author Byron Katie wrote: “Just because a man has an erection doesn’t mean he has to do anything with it.” Then he can be genuine friends with an attractive woman.
2. Men don’t know the difference between authentic love, romantic love, and sexual energy.
In his book, Intimate Communion, David Deida talks about three unique aspects of love: authentic love, romance, and polarity (sexual energy). Like adolescent teens confused about the rich new experiences happening in their bodies, most men still confuse sexual polarity with romantic love. With such a man, you can trace the entire path from lust to love along the contours of a petite woman’s aerodynamic ass. Such lust-love thoughts tempt me all the time in the presence of attractive women, insisting I could surely love the complex person attached to those yummy long legs. But I’m learned that such thoughts are usually just mental leakage from my lizard brain. I’m learning not to trust them. It is fascinating to have witnessed my own experience of what felt like love for a woman essentially vanish in the afterglow of a powerful orgasm. It’s astonishing—and disturbing—just how quickly sex can switch a male mind from the “ocean-deep loving” setting to “kiddie-pool shallow.”
While genuine romantic love is fairly elusive, men can experience sexual polarity with different women … every … single … day. Polarity attraction happens. Constantly. In the grocery store. At the DMV. In our cars. At the bars. On a plane. In a rocket ship to the stars. We’re like polarized magnets walking around bumping into each other everywhere. Of course we’re going to feel the pull. That doesn’t mean we have to act on it. Sadly, many immature men use this polarity-love confusion to manipulate women into sex, which helps confuse the trust right out of women.
For us to become mature men, we must learn to distinguish this sexual polarity energy from both romantic love and deeper authentic love. We must stop manipulating women into false romances fueled only by sexual energy. We must gain some level of mastery around how we ultimately wield that sexual energy.
3. Most men do not fully respect the boundaries set by women, because they do not fully respect women.
Adolescent boys and aging toddlers clearly make up most of culture’s rules. We still don’t fully respect most feminine ways of being. We place high value on the masculine expressions of competition, rational thinking, control and domination, achievement for achievement’s sake, etc. We place far less value on the feminine gifts of intuition, consensus, holistic well-being, beauty for its own sake, vulnerability. This bias is so fundamental to our culture that I don’t even need to offer examples to convince you (think: politics, business, war, zillionaire sports athletes, broke school teachers, and on and on).
Until we men fully honor and understand that a healthy functioning world requires feminine wisdom as much as masculine wisdom, we will not be able to fully respect the boundaries of our hot female friends. We will continue exploiting weakness in their defenses, whether with subtle manipulation or outright violence.
4. Men don’t know how to be authentically vulnerable.
Most men don’t know how to be with awkward feelings and experiences without having to do something manly about them. We believe we are supposed to act on our feelings, even if that means forcibly suppressing or drowning them in addictions. We are compelled to take whatever action will get us most quickly away from our discomfort. That’s why we hate it when women cry. We don’t know a middle way. We don’t know how to simply be with awkward truths. We don’t know how to express our real truth without playing for an outcome.
Because so much of our worth is tied to a woman’s approval, being vulnerable is particularly difficult in relationship to women. Our fragile adolescent egos can’t risk feminine rejection of our authentic inner worlds. So we’ll be vulnerable and tell women how we feel, but we’ll do our best to control the scenario so that we either get what we want in the end or keep them far enough away that they can’t possibly reject us. Which is how adolescent boys behave.
It’s hard to create genuine friendships without being genuinely vulnerable. Even with other men.
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Image a world where Men …
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Imagine a world where Men could differentiate between sexual energy, romance, and pure love; and where we could acknowledge this openly, without shame, to the women in his world who would appreciate his honesty. Imagine a world where Men could breathe into their sexual energy and simply enjoy their own erections without always having to do something with them. Imagine a world where Men fully respected Women and the wisdom they bring. Imagine a world where Men knew how to be vulnerable with their deepest truths, their joys and their sorrows, and could easily share them with women (and men) without manipulating for an outcome in the sharing. Wouldn’t the Men in such a world make for incredible masculine friends to women? … not to mention spine-tingling intimate partners, too.
Originally appeared on ThisWildWakingJourney
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I’ve worked and played with men most of my life, because the things I like doing are moslty “man” things (things not many women like to do). Almost every man friend that had an attraction to me gave it a try. It is the man thing to do, and I have never felt threatened by any of them becasue they did it with respect, and backed off when their attempt was ignored by me. However, I am a married woman whose never fooled around. I can appreciate a beautiful, sexy intelligent man and if they have something that makes them… Read more »
For the straight dudes whining: most gay and bi guys can be friends with attractive men/women just fine. In fact, we love being friends with other men and women. Most will absolutely respect women’s (and men’s) boundaries. One of the reasons gay men do not catcall you guys on the streets in any way closer or to the same ammount you guys catcall and harass women. I could say most of us also love the feminine and embrace much of it in our lives. One of the biggest reasons we do not commit crimes as much as straight men. Why… Read more »
One should not assume that because a male person is not heterosexual or not otherwise sexually attracted to female persons that he is therefore automatically some enlightened and empathetic ally to women. Men who are not sexually attracted to female persons can have different methods and tactics for harassing and disparaging women. And as this website has discussed, it can be more frequent than we like to pretend.
https://goodmenproject.com/ethics-values/gay-mens-sexism-and-womens-bodies/
Still waiting to the “most men” stats
Here’s what I don’t understand about all this stuff. I am one of those nice guys who is moderately sensitive. I read articles that tell me women want men who are assertive and go after what they want, a real alpha male person. Then I read articles like this that tell me the exact opposite, that women want men to understand them and treat them as equals and not be pushy and so on and so on. Can someone explain to me how I am supposed to be this alpha male person to get with the woman I want to… Read more »
Alpha male talk is bullshit. And women are diverse, but I guess you already know this. But anyways, women, or people in general, like other people who are sensitive, treat them as equal and don’t push their boundaries but that will, in case they are attracted to them, show this attraction in a respectful manner. An assertive manner as well, don’t be too passive aggressive, as it can make people confused about what is happening. But if many men do not understand how it’s possible to show attraction and respect women at the same time, the problem is bigger than… Read more »
Harvesting frogs …. Women hook up with their prince and within a period of time, they turn their prince into frogs. David, be who you are and if a women doesn’t want you for who you are, then let them move on. And I understand what you’re saying, so many mixed messages, men don’t know if they should wipe their nose or blow their ass.
Ya know, here’s the funny thing. If I see a person and I need or want something from that person, then I will talk to that person and attempt to get what I want or need. If I do not need or want something from that person I will not talk to that person. I go out, every day, day after day, and don’t talk to figuratively thousands of people I come across because they don’t have anything I need or want, or am aware of needing or wanting. I don’t really need or want any more friends. I have… Read more »
” In my experience at least, it is exceptionally rare for me to have non-relationship things in common with an attractive woman anyway. We wouldn’t have much to talk about as “just friends”.”
Why? Do you believe most attractive women are too dumb for you?
I never said anything about intelligence, did I? No. I said have things in common beyond relationship things. That’s not the same thing and you know it. If the only point of confluence between myself and an attractive woman is that we both find each other attractive, well that’s going to get played out very quickly because time stops for no one. However I have yet to meet too many attractive women who share my sense of humor, hobbies, or world view. And when I do come across them they are often already partnered, or are otherwise not interested, which… Read more »
Still waiting for the stats…..
I can relate completely to not only this article but to Ben in particular. In my younger years I slept with almost any woman that was willing to do so, and there were quite a lot to my sheer delight. A few I liked but that was not a factor. Then after being married for twenty years then divorced, I completely turned 180. The only ones I slept with were ones I instinctively liked, and wouldn’t initiate intercourse until I was sure I at least liked the person. Some of those lasted longer than others because either they or I… Read more »
I think Mr.Reeves has made some really good points here. This mature way of being, is easier with some female than others. Speaking as a 28 year old male who has experienced this long term, I would take issue with the polarisation of man (maturity) and boy(immaturity), since I tend to think of this as more of a struggle. Something we grapple with. One day you are fine and respectful – keeping feeling’s in check. Other times they’re just so god damn wonderful and sexy and it can make you want to say something stupid. Or run away, lest you… Read more »
I’m not asking you or any man to feel ashamed about it, though. What’s the use in that? What I AM asking you and every other man is to step up and take responsibility towards making this world as safe for women as it is for men. No boy can become a real man until he accepts responsibility for making sure the women in his community are equally honored as the men. Your initial statement is contradicted by this subsequent paragraph. Not only do you resort to the tired-out control phrase of “real man” (and I’ve yet to meet any… Read more »
I don’t promote shame. I do promote deep inquiry and taking fearless inventories as to what’s really going on, what is our part in things. I agree “real man” is a silly phrase, and I only used it in response to a condescending, angry rant from another man. If you ask 1000 men how many felt unsafe in the past week, most will not know what you’re talking about. If you ask 1000 women how many felt unsafe at some point in the past week, most will have experienced a moment in the past week where they were nervous about… Read more »
I agree “real man” is a silly phrase, and I only used it in response to a condescending, angry rant from another man Yes, I’m sure what you really meant to say was “MATURE.MEN.” which is the hierarchical term you tend to use in comparison to “boys” or “adolescent boys.” And I am sure that “MATURE MEN” must mean something entirely different and opposite than the silly “real man” term. Of the many things that make female persons feel unsafe and anxious, I am told that one of those things is when they suspect that a platonic male acquaintance has… Read more »
With awareness comes choice. My intention for this article is to create awareness, to give men choice. I’m always fascinated by what triggers people. Must be hitting a nerve.
My intention for this article is to create awareness, to give men choice. Sure, and a man may not intend to creep out or unnerve a woman, but if he does end up doing that, his benign intentions do not count for much. I do not doubt your intention, but that is hardly unique to your writings, nor does it necessarily exonerate your writings of some of the allegations here. Lots of people want to create awareness about some supposed phenomena so that other people can decide how to respond to it. And usually the person “creating awareness” wants the… Read more »
My intention for this article is to create awareness, to give men choice.”
Byran, I LOVE this. Because at the heart of it, you are basically just giving men choices.
And I loved your article. You touched a lot of complex deep subject matter. Especially your very first point regarding not always having to do something with your sexual energy. Brilliant.
Thank you, thank you.
Josh I’m not trying to shut anyone up. If you really read my responses, you’ll see if someone has a thoughtful comment, I do my best to reply with a thoughtful comment. Sometimes I’ll use shorthand terms like “real men” because … well, I simply don’t want to spend all day covering every angle. Yes there’s a whole other side to this story, that being the violence perpetrated by women. I experienced physical and emotional abuse from a woman in a relationship many years ago. I’m not ignorant about it. But I am not a journalist covering every angle of… Read more »
Awesome Article esp for women in India. While men all over may critique you for bringing this up, I can safely say – and there are enuf stats to back me up that in quite a few countries men misuse their power and physical strength to hurt women. Be it sexually or physically. And that really is pretty sad and immature. Thanks for writing this, most women will def agree with you here. Some men might just feel offended – but then again maybe they just need to take a good look around and grow up.
Some men here are angry because Bryan suggested men who cannot respect women are immature (well, they are at least immature, can’t you agree?). Because Bryan said not knowing how to handle your sexual energy is a big sign of immaturity (and it is) and that many men don’t know how to differentiate between authentic love, romantic love, and sexual energy (and most straight dudes don’t). The problem is even bigger than what Bryan suggested, as we can see. They are so macho-driven that they can’t even see how a man acting in whatever way could be immature. What do… Read more »
My issue is the use of the term “most men.”
See, I have problems with you using the phrase “Real men” precisely because it becomes limiting. By most men’s definition I’m not a Real Man, because I don’t take advantage of others, throw my weight around, drink heavily, like sports, or have sex with loads of women with no regard to their needs. On the other hand, you seem to be saying that I’m not a “Real Man” because I don’t have gobs of female friends (who I’m attracted to mind you, if I’m not attracted to them they don’t count as female friends I guess), even though I do… Read more »
“In what way exactly is this world safer for men than it is for women?” That guys… does not know… in what ways the world is safer for men than it is for women. Damn. “Does that mean we should make it so women die more military, workplace and violence related deaths, where men currently make up the majority of such deaths?” Yes, I do believe that if men would embrace the feminine, there would be so many less people dying military and violence related deaths, mostly caused by other men. Workplace deaths are a case of capitalism and the… Read more »
I think the better question is why should we be friends with women we’re attracted to. Bottom line is that unlike a lot of women, most men aren’t really capable of putting women into the category of I’d never date her. If we’d never date her, then chances are good that we wouldn’t want to be friends with her in the first place.
I think that’s a pretty sad and limiting attitude, tho I have no doubt many men share it. Friendship is a great thing, and you shouldn’t limit yourself to being friends only with women you find attractive. You may miss out on a great friendship that way. I’m not talking about being BFF’s, but having good relationships with others at work, school, your neighborhood and so on. Plus you never know who your friends will introduce you to– maybe she’s got a hot single friend you’d never meet otherwise. Making friends is an investment in your future not just the… Read more »
You’re right, men don’t have to be friends with women they are attracted to. I would say they shouldn’t be unless attraction is mutual.
There are plenty of women a man wouldn’t date. It’s the pool of women that he won’t have sex with that’s small. Big difference between wanting to dating and wanting to have sex.
I personally am not friends with men I am attracted to. It’s also difficult to be friends with men I’m not attracted to because of their attraction to me. It’s too much of a hassle for both parties.
Jen, I think you are overestimating the value men put on platonic friendships with the opposite sex. An f buddy or a girlfriend is the perk of having a female friends. No man is going to look a woman and say, “She’s pretty and has a nice rack. Gotdamn I wanna be her friend!” or , “Look at that round, firm bottom. I just found my best pal!”” Noooooo lol To paraphrase Chris Rock, no man wants to be just friends. The friendzone means he took a wrong turn, and that’s where he ended up! Men are not going to… Read more »
I LOVED it. Thank you!
you’re welcome!
I wish that I could hit a like button on Richard’s comment. My response to Tom is this, it is always interesting when a man says that he thinks that women should except men with their flaws. But, men are more critical about excepting the woman for her flaws. And, women are being expected to exist with many traits that men can’t even find in themselves. Yes, as a woman, I have seen men be far more critical about women then the reverse. Women are, by nature, generally more accepting. Maybe if the woman (or women are) is not being… Read more »
So Tam, stay away from those guys because in my world for almost 60 years, what you described is not the case or anywhere near the norm.I’m a product of the 60’s/70’s and something me and my male peers commonly experienced was “cleaning day” which meant vacuuming, dusting, sweeping etc. And from the age where I could reach the sink, you learned to do dishes. And BTW,those chores did not = allowance, they = parental expectations. But these guys you speak of,who raised them to be so inefficient? Now to what you said “I also submit this. So, the man… Read more »
This is definitely an age thing, Tom. I’m in my fifties and my first job when I was twelve consisted mainly of mucking out calf pens. I stood in ankle deep cow manure and took it out with a pitch fork and wheel barrow. It doesn’t come much dirtier than that. Before I went home I would have to hose down. House work is for the dainty. Anyone who can’t hack it needs to get real, or check themselves, or whatever the young people say today. Maybe we’re just fortunate to have experienced what we have in our lives.
PursuitAce – I truly do see myself as being fortunate to have been raised when I was. And even though, back then I resisted what my parents were trying to instill in me, I did “get it” at some point. Yet our generation that’s tried to carry what we learned and experienced onto next generations is blamed for how people are today. We’re out dated and old fashioned ….
Great blog! I disagree on one point: rationality as a prominent characteristic in men. I call BS! Substitute “rationality” with “me getting what I want, when I want it.” The mature man that you so eloquently describe understands that in order to be truly rational he has to turn off the tangent in his brain when someone is talking to him and really, truly listen to what they are saying with their words, their facial expressions, etc. Rationality is not about being “right”, it is a way of thinking, an it includes emotions.
Hi Richard, thanks for your insight. I really mean “rational thinking” as a signature expression of “masculine” energy. It’s not simply man/woman I’m talking about, even though I mostly wrote this article through that filter, but really I’m pointing towards masculine/feminine expressions of being which are commonly present in both men and women. Anyway, I appreciate your input. Thanks. Bryan
Outstanding article. Off to read David Deida now. Granted, I don’t identify myself with many of your “most men” statements above, and I’ve always seen “intuition, consensus, holistic well-being, beauty for its own sake, vulnerability” as far more part of my character than “competition, rational thinking, control and domination, achievement for achievement’s sake”, most of which I’d run a mile from. Your third point about vulnerability – that “It’s hard to create genuine friendships without being genuinely vulnerable. Even with other men” – is an important one; I suspect that is why most of my truest and deepest friendships over… Read more »
Thanks for your thoughts, Ben. When I describe those characteristics, although I use the language “most men” I’m really just referring to the masculinity within “most men.” When a man is more strongly connected to his innate femininity (which can happen for all kinds of fascinating reasons even in masculine men), he is going to naturally identify with more feminine expressions of being. Nothing at all wrong with this. In fact, we as a culture need to overcome this debilitating fallacy: that femininity has less value than masculinity.
A lot of this goes the other way too. There are women that have a hard time being friends with a man they’re attracted to.
For sure. And I’d love to see a woman write that article.
I would be happy to write this article!!! I’m on it.
Great article Bryan!!! Don’t be detered by the negative responses….you are on to something very profound and relevant in these times. Continue to find your “voice” and the “right” words!!!
I’ll be working on this article over the weekend.
If it is that much of a problem, there is always the option to just walk away. Too many people put themselves through needless drama and stress when there is a choice. This is what Zeta Masculinity
is all about.
I’d have sex and probably date most of my female friends, including my best female friends. It’s annoying when they aren’t interested but eh, that’s life. I’m just glad I am not crushing hard on any of them which makes it very difficult.
“Most men” “Most men” “Most men” Wow, we really live in a screwed up society. Imagine a world where men were not put under a microscope and asked to change who they are to appease others. Imagine a world where women could simply accept men with all their flaws and recognize that each human being can use some improvement and growth.
Tom, 1 out of 5 women will be sexually assaulted at some point in their lives. 15% of female US military Iraq/Afghanistan veterans screened positive for signs of sexual trauma during visits to the VA. “Most women” routinely feel unsafe in our society today simply while going about their daily lives. My article isn’t intended to blame or shame; it is simply an invitation specifically to men to step up and take responsibility for our role in how women experience the world we live in.
My article isn’t intended to blame or shame That is good and reassuring to know. Mature men can experience sexual attraction and still honor healthy boundaries with women. Mature men can do this. Mature. Men…On the other hand, adolescent boys—and men perpetually stuck in adolescence—will have difficulty being honest friends with the women they’re sexually attracted to. So If I say that somebody is not “mature” or that he/she is “perpetually stuck in adolescence,” there is absolutely no shaming or pejorative implication in my remarks, and the person should take absolutely no offense in being called “immature” or “perpetually stuck… Read more »
We all experience immaturity in our lives. I just turned 40, and I’m only now seeing how I have been hanging onto immature adolescence for so much of my life. This doesn’t cause me shame. It’s simply time for me to graduate.
How nice that you can realize your own immaturity without need for a life coach.
Or did some other people point out your immaturity before you started “only now seeing” it for yourself?
So if somebody declines your admonitions and does not “graduate” like you have done (or are trying to do), then then is nothing pejorative or bad about that?
This doesn’t cause me shame. It’s simply time for me to graduate. Calling somebody “immature” indicates that you think something about them is bad and defective and fails an expectation that you think they should meet. That sounds like shame. Your explanation is that it is good for men to change to your way of thinking, so apparently, people should not feel shame when you call them “immature” for not conforming to it. That has got to be one of the most arrogant and incoherent responses ever mustered to the allegation of shaming Of course it does not cause you… Read more »
Then perhaps the soution is for men and women to stay the heck away from each other.
I’m a man. People like you are the issue, not the women reading these articles. What’s that sound? Your guilt seems to be ringing . . . Seriously, if you’re a man that tries to be responsible and empathetic towards women then what harm does it do to you in recognizing the oppressive institutionalization brought upon them by other men? And mind you, it’s not always 100% conscious, malignant intention and actions. A lot of men do stuff that is shitty simply because it is viewed as acceptable because of the way they were bought up. Ever hear the phrase,… Read more »
“Seriously, if you’re a man that tries to be responsible and empathetic towards women then what harm does it do to you in recognizing the oppressive institutionalization brought upon them by other men?nd mind you, it’s not always 100% conscious, malignant intention and actions. A lot of men do stuff that is shitty simply because it is viewed as acceptable……f”
I wish this could be put on a billboard.
SLAM! POW! Tom takes a couple to the chin. It makes me think of that old batman series. A real classic. Anyway my experience is that women can’t handle those relationships. So maybe we should get an article from them.
ROFL PursuitAce … where are the comic strips now? I’d gladly send my picture so that they could do a caricature. Bryan, I know the stats, I’ve known them for the past 40+ years. I’m constantly reminded of them. My wife was attacked in an elevator when we were first married, I’m sure the guy still has the scars from her clawing his face with her finger nails. If I understand this right, you see mature men having the abilities that you say “most men” don’t. I wonder if these “mature men” were ever “immature men?” And another question is… Read more »
And let’s not forget that ““Most women” routinely feel unsafe in our society today simply while going about their daily lives” Why is this? Where and why do they feel unsafe when in fact “most men” do not commit these crimes. Although my wife had personally encountered a situation, I have never known her to feel unsafe around men, any men.
Let me give you a quick lesson in cognitive thinking. Ever buy a car and no more then you drive it off the lot, it’s as though a heck of a lot of people had the same car? Subconscious vs conscious thought. This is something that I work with adolescents on where they will inevitably say that “most” kids in their school use drugs. As with the car scenario, the subconscious is looking for affirmation.I must have done the right thing,look at how many others bought the same car? It’s okay to use drugs, look at all the others that… Read more »
And what I find surprising is that GMP staff haven’t come out with the “don’t generalize” a population of people … but then again, it was and article they put out? “We eat stereotypes for lunch around here.” Mmmm, wonder where I’ve heard that before?
Could you please give me stats on the % of men who commit these crimes?
You are right, Tom. Women should accept men who don’t respect their boundaries and women in general. Who don’t even know what is the difference between love and sexual attraction. Who demonizes the feminine. Yes, what a great world that would be.
What a misandrist world we live in, where men have to change who they are in order to respect women and be responsible adults (appease?). Men shold be able to go around with these flaws and not being put under a microscope. 🙁
Supra, Is that what I said or was referring to?
IMO if a woman doesn’t like a male friend lusting after her, just don’t be friends with men. This isn’t something men can change.