On the March 27, 2021 edition of “Staggers State of Things,” the ladies talked about:
– Georgia’s new election laws make it tougher to vote
– Vice President Harris to lead efforts to stem immigration at the southern border
– Birx shares her chilling conclusion as America arrives at a moment of introspection on the coronavirus
– This episode’s cockroach: Ted Cruz
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what is up everybody it’s dr vive here
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and finally another hat that i got on my
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head when you don’t see it
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somewhere there is i am the board chair
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for the global food and drink initiative
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it’s a multimedia
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non-profit that is go that’s goal
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is to highlight blacks in the diaspora
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they’re involved with food wine and
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travel we’re broadcasting live on march
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27th
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lopez a little past 9 p.m eastern time
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the end of a saturday but the beginning
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of another epic conversation called
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staggered state of things
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where we have aisha case tigers and jill
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jones dropping knowledge bombs and
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folks they’re here but you know maybe
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one day
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we should do the outtakes in the
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pre-conversational conversation
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you guys if you think there’s something
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else live oh my goodness all i’m going
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to say about today is
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someone had a long time in bed angos
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gone now
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you you can take that whatever whatever
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way you want folks
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and someone’s about to go to bed oh yeah
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there you go
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so you just probably just gave it away
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if you want to do anything thinking
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there on that well because i’m sitting
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in bed
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and then it’ll look like i’ve been in
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bed all day and i’m like no i’m not i’m
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like
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no no i’m just getting up i’m compelling
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on aisha
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hey i went so far you took it over the
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bridge
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yeah all right all right how are ladies
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doing
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good good good yes
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how’s the weekend oh my she’s written
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all went oh
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that’s danger you’ll throw back up and
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ready to go no
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the hands are rubbing i know because you
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know i’ve tried to not
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talk about any of this like through the
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week just
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just as i see things rolling in and then
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it’s all built up so
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it’s time to uh exhale you know yeah and
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waiting i’m waiting to exhale first
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there you go
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there you go so then let me ask you jill
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when you get that chance exhale this
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kind of stuff
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who gets the exhaling your husband
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yeah a lot of times but you know he’s
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watching
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tennis matches
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fortunately he has that and then i went
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out and hit a few balls
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the other day so um poorly but
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i did hit them but all right
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it’s all good well let’s get after it
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so this story here
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georgia republicans and our broad new
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voting restrictions including a ban
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now this part really gives me a ban on
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giving water to voters in line
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like what are we are we in rome and food
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what what like and it’s funny before you
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ladies get into it
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i remember during one of our past
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conversations
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jill saying specifically this will be
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a big issue next election yeah and now
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it’s
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front line yeah and there’s a reason why
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specifically they’re really going after
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they tried to get it done
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before this session ends because raphael
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warnock
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is going to be up in 22. his senate um
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his senate election was a special
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election to finish out a term
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and so he comes up again in 2022
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and they want to try and stop him from
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getting in again because he’s going to
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have
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a republican contender when that seat
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comes up so this is very specific to his
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seat
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um this is really not about the
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presidential it is about that senate
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seat
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and also because brian kemp comes up
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again
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next year for his election as governor
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and one of the things that he is afraid
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of is stacy abrams running against him
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again
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which i don’t think stacey abrams i told
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this to a friend of mine last weekend
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i don’t think stacy abrams is going to
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run again for governor because
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right now she is a king maker
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she can basically help decide who gets
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in where and how to make that person a
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candidate that wins
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but this particular broad these
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new restrictions are specifically
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designed to target black and brown
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and asian voters in georgia who helped
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bring warnock and ossoff to the senate
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that’s it’s specifically targeted there
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um but more specifically at the black
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population because notice
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that they hit the very things that black
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voters
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are um known to rely on
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in terms of getting to the polls so they
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they want they ended
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sunday voting which they know the black
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churches were
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very very um good at with their sunday
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souls to the polls this ending voting
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at five o’clock or what have you this
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five o’clock restriction
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well people work right so
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that’s going to take off a lot of people
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who
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um work shift jobs and things like that
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who don’t get off work
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until five o’clock and can’t get to the
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polls until
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after 5 pm and so
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um the fact that you have
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um the state legislature going
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after this um georgia’s serving as an
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example
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um as a test state mind you
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because there are 42 other states that
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have
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these in their pocket ready to go
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before the end of their sessions
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i i’m still trying to comprehend what
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kind of country
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or what kind of state that people cannot
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get a bottle of
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water a redneck state a regular weight
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the state and keep in mind we were
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talking about um
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the coca-cola corporation beforehand um
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in our pre-talk before we got online
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but the fact that the coca-cola
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corporation manufacturer is in atlanta
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is in georgia they produce
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dasani they produce water
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and so you know they donated a lot of
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water
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to
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can i say like
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this is backwards this is just very
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backwards
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it’s backwards like i’m waiting for
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someone to wait in line and
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and die and hear what that excuse is
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going to be and they still don’t
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wouldn’t care and they still wouldn’t be
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charged and it’s still going down the
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road
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where um people have not figured out
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that
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it’s not just boycotting coca-cola
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or or those measures those
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indirect measures isn’t talking don’t
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pay your property taxes
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there’s other ways to boycott that can
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hit them harder
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there’s um you know
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it’s you just have to be clever about
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now how to get to them because
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the racism is alive and in in a way i
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think the prejudices
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is an even stronger word um it’s what
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they’re willing to live with
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they’re proud of it they want people to
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know that they
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are and they’re not ashamed of it
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so we have a very big problem here
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and for me
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the part about my personality that is
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the most frightening is when i’m calm
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in the middle of something that’s really
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raging um
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and i’m sensing that a lot with a lot of
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people in georgia my friends
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there’s a very strange calm a very
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odd quiet and even though i’m working
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with my grassroots groups and
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you know oprah for sure will come
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through again
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with getting people to the polls and a
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lot of
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other uh huge you know
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money money people but
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we have a very big problem because it’s
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incredibly important this is only the
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beginning because you can almost
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bet that by the time they’re voting
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again they’ll either be rounding up
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people
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arresting them doing different things to
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keep them from
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voting um so we have a a big problem
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and like i said the calm that’s starting
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to come is a little bit unnerving
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for me i mean i see people saying you’re
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not going to stop me from giving a
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bottle of water well
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they arrested that other senator the
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other day flat out
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for nothing knocking on the door when
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kemp was signing this atrocious bill
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they will be arresting people if they
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see this these transactions happening
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um and i just have a very chilling
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uh premonition that i hope doesn’t come
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to pass but
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georgia will be sorry either it’ll be
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because
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camp is gonna lose that’s for sure but
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the rage is still going to continue
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because they are only skimming the
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surface
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with how to root out the these people
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uh the racists in georgia and in america
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are like planters warts they’re all
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really freaking hard
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to get to the root of it there’s always
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a little web and if you ever
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look at the planters wart you know that
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goes around and around
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and it’s it’s even harder than getting
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rid of a corn
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so these people are warts on our society
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and even when you kill them off for a
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bit
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they come back because the virus is in
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the spleen of this country
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you know they are a virus and
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we really have to stop
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believing that even when you hear the
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bravado of white people like oh i
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i’m gonna i would i’ll be giving out
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water bottles
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well you might be blowing somebody’s
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chance to vote
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the strategy for what you’re going to do
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please don’t put it online
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please keep your mouth shut about what
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your plans are
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i do not know how many times to tell
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people stop
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advertising what you are going to do
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in result of you know when you’re in a
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war
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don’t do it please find another way to
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communicate with each other
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but the best thing to do is to be boop
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and let them wonder let them sit back
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and wonder
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just before you jump in aisha i just
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want to update with comments leroy
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mckenzie jr jnf
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enterprises it’s racism at its best
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nicole one of these days you gotta come
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on here nicole the eye of the storm the
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calm before the second wave
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and uh birdie lynn is showing her love
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and saying facts
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and nicole is saying exactly to what
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jill just shared are you sure back to
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you
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i think people um particularly the white
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people in georgia are forgetting how
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resilient
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georgia black people are because
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this is not the first time they’ve tried
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to restrict the voting rights of black
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people
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in that state you got to remember it is
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a southern state
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they’ve tried um
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fear tactics they’ve tried um
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pull tests they’ve tried all of these
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things before
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that the black population is ready for
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there there is a counter attack of how
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to have
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how to handle this and and
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that georgian voters black georgia
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voters
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and minority georgia voters are ready
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they’re ready
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for what’s coming at them because they
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knew that this bill was coming down
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it’s not that this is new to the pub the
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wider public
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right the georgian voters they knew that
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this was on the table
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they knew that this would likely pass if
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trump lost
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and so they have been preparing
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and um they’ve been planning and
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preparing
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about how they were going to get around
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this bill because they already knew it
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was in it they’ve been preparing how to
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get around it
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like jill said they just haven’t been
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sharing it on social media
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so people are prepared to come
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with their water their snacks and their
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stuff
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with them they’re going to be prepared
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to do that they’re going to get around
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these different ways of these these new
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ways of voting i mean it’s kemp’s way of
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his metaphorical
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plantation owner uh behavior because
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he’s still acting like he owns the black
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people
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in georgia there’s a lot of affluence
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there a lot of money in georgia
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and it doesn’t only belong to the white
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people and if there there’s businesses
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that
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uh rely white people’s businesses that
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do rely on black people’s
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um money and that should all be taken
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away
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i don’t care you know if you’re gonna
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make my ass
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stand somewhere in line with no water no
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i will order my
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stuff online and i’ll just wait an extra
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couple of days for my stuff
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but it’s really really important that
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you know how what our maneuvers are
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going to be because
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we also have to take into effect we have
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a few cases coming up in georgia
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that georgia’s not going to pass on
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popularity and that they have
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they’re so dynamic and oh what a great
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state you’ve got the almond arbory isn’t
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it wasn’t he killed in georgia
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yes then you have what just recently
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happened
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with the asians the asians are turning
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they will turn
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on these people um you know
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you have because a lot of there’s been a
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few alliances that have been merging
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between
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the anti-asian summit group the groups
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and then also the african americans and
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people of color groups so they’ve
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created
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a solidarity that uh they better be
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prepared
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uh uh georgians they better be prepared
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and the georgians that
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i know that have the money
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had any hint of uh you know trouble
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they’re out of there and off to their
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houses somewhere else
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but let me tell you something they they
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are not the majority in that
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state that so they have to wrangle and
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wriggle these laws
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but kemp’s not going to win and a lot of
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them are going to be gone
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because what happened
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is that this time around
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people are not advertising their
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strategies
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for them to come up with another another
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thing she’s right
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everybody knew what was coming down the
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pipeline
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but um this time going in
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they don’t know the the white people in
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georgia don’t know what’s coming down
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for them
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because they nobody going to be chit
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chatting and
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holding public forums uh it’s just not
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smart
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there are other things that uh they it’s
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not smart and they will screw up
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every trial that i meant with ahmed
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arbory and they will become
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more of an enemy to their own citizens
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there
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so it’s going to be ugly and one other
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thing just let me okay all right just
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like
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catch up comments you ladies you know on
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saturday nights now people are flying
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now so if i don’t get to them at a
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certain point we’re going to be half an
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hour catching up
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which is a good thing which is a good
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thing but just catching up bernie lee
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lynn saying the republicans think it’s a
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game she also says that we need to start
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pulling money left
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and right um she also says no more
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emotional please
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move the money and nicole says
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the art of war done to warrior
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and george is going to learn a lesson i
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think that south carolina learned
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um but they were too stupid and too
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stupid to
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actually act upon it remember the
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dispute over the confederate flag with
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south carolina
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south carolina was forced to remove it
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because of the charleston massacre
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and the death of a state senator
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okay but before that they’d lost
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opportunity after opportunity
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because the ncaa ncaa would no longer
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hold their games there right um they
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lost opportunity after opportunity
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now they’re only starting to get some
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things back that the
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flag has been gone for the last um
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six years but george you think about
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georgia and the things that people do in
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georgia well
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tyler perry does all of his movies there
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he has his studios there
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waitress shot coming to america too in
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georgia
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in georgia because it’s cheaper to film
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in georgia
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not only that but the nba all-star game
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is held in atlanta so you do and that’s
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most that’s black people that patreon
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you know talking about people pulling
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back a lot of things
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you have a lot of media companies and
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things that
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you know do have headquarters there but
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you also
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have to take into account a lot of just
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even how media disbursement is getting
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out there these days
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it’s changing a lot i mean everybody
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knows that
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amazon just got the nfl starting for a
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billion dollars
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that starts what 2023 or 2024
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for 10 years so networks aren’t doing as
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well anymore
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people things are changing everything is
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becoming
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very um uh a la carte
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and uh georgia how they want to try to
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do this
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this whole thing it’s not their people
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will have rides we will find ways for
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people to get to the polls
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and they will get there before five and
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they will be there until
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the until they get to vote this is not
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kemp or kemp or whatever he can do
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whatever
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all i know is they’re huffing and
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puffing and stressing themselves
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out to do this to to be crooked and
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corrupt
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and people usually don’t fare too well
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with that
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there’s always something that comes in
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karmically
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and will just change it i mean you’ve
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got a situation where
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if you think you can anticipate what the
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asian community is going to do
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completely you better think twice
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because we had a woman here in san
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francisco
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who got punched in the face got a
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million dollars from a gofundme
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and gave it away to the anti-asian
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community
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and because she has integrity
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and so now you got a bunch of people
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coming in who are saying
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now we can’t be bought we want what we
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want and at the end of the day so
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when you start getting people who say
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you can’t buy me
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you can’t buy my silence that’s when the
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game changes
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and lindsay and all these other dust
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dust bucket
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uh reggie’s you know whatever they
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are she’s going at it now she’s been
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moving
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are done and like i said we are not
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communicating
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for the world for them to look and go
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oh wow they’re going to do this no y’all
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just sit back and wait and see
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all right lindsay’s got his own problems
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right now in georgia too
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so don’t forget that yeah nicole
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she’s got issues no this is a time
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nicole saying this is a time we as a
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people have to be strategic and unite in
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a way never
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like in a way like never before they
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want to divide us now we must divide
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them
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completely leroy says when you hit them
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in their pockets they will begin to pay
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attention black beauty is saying as well
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the president of america is working to
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stop kemp’s actions
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also now leroy’s saying the third
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industrial revolution is fought
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economically very true it’s very true
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and this is why
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the um and we’re going to talk about it
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later i believe this is why
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the filibuster getting rid of it
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or making them actually have to
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do the filibuster like it was intended
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and tire themselves
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out um is so important because
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these these um these states
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need that particular part of the um
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federal voting rights act restored this
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is
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why that particular amendment to the
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federal
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voting rights act was there so exactly
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like georgia because states like
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wouldn’t do this use these tactics
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to disenfranchise vote voters of color
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this
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is this is exactly why that was
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there to begin with i mean they rely on
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the ignorance of
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the american people and there are many
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who are really
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poor sadly just ignorant some people
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think this is a new thing
22:31
they’re trying to make a federal voting
22:32
thing listen
22:34
uh b it’s it was like that you people
22:39
dismantled it i mean you really have
22:43
these you know little toads who just
22:46
suddenly
22:46
all of a sudden reared their heads
22:49
learning
22:50
thinking they took civics 101 when trump
22:53
came into
22:54
office and it really shows how much they
22:56
were dumb
22:57
uh they didn’t understand they never
23:00
understood
23:00
and they were never paying attention to
23:03
um
23:04
to politics or the government or what
23:06
was happening or weren’t voting
23:08
i mean how many of them have we found
23:09
that weren’t even voting and
23:11
running their mouths well that’s okay
23:13
because
23:15
this if you do hit people economically
23:18
and this is how it is
23:19
you know they’re not just making money
23:22
uh my a friend of mine was talking to me
23:24
today and
23:25
in the insurance business and whatever
23:27
and she was saying
23:29
how much money her clients have made
23:31
during a pandemic and it was sickening
23:33
it’s just
23:34
unreal and i was like wow
23:37
you know and that’s why they don’t care
23:39
people need to be a little bit more
23:41
upset that
23:42
why were all the kovacho stuck in these
23:44
rural rural areas and people in the
23:46
metropolitan cities black people asian
23:49
people
23:50
people of color couldn’t get them
23:52
they’re trying to kill you i mean what
23:54
you got a target on your back you know
23:57
we should all just wear jackets with a
23:58
target on them because that’s exactly
24:00
what they’re doing
24:01
and your kids too just put a big
24:04
bull’s-eye right on the
24:05
top of your kids head because that’s
24:07
what they’re doing
24:09
and guess what
24:12
stop telling your business online
24:15
that’s all i got to say if you need to
24:18
communicate with people
24:20
join some of these groups vet carefully
24:23
who comes in
24:24
vet them because there’s a lot of little
24:26
dusty ass traders too
24:28
but this watch your money and watch
24:31
where you’re putting your money
24:33
and you know get involved with uh
24:36
bitcoin nicole nicole is saying
24:40
here the in the ignorance blows my mind
24:43
it’s unreal and bertie lynn who’s the
24:47
president one of the presidents hashtag
24:48
team deal
24:50
daniel joe jones fan club’s gonna
24:52
resurrect again i’m
24:53
having that feeling this is the part
24:56
that i’m gonna sit and laugh about in
24:58
the end
24:59
because it’s like shooting yourself in
25:01
the foot
25:03
they not forget that their voters have
25:05
to their voters aren’t exempt
25:07
from these laws their own voters
25:11
wow they forget that they’re in the
25:13
south
25:14
they’re not in the north east they’re
25:16
not in the quote-unquote
25:18
liberal california or the or the coastal
25:22
states
25:23
where people are the quote-unquote
25:25
elites to them
25:26
their people still drive pickup trucks
25:29
and have to work
25:30
these these minimum wage jobs these
25:33
hourly jobs where they work
25:36
you know and they roll up in their
25:38
wheelchair and they are amputated
25:49
how many diabetics are going to be
25:50
sitting in line white black and all of
25:52
them
25:52
i mean really do they not know where
25:55
they live because
25:56
also they’re going to try to steal the
25:58
election again
25:59
as they always do but you know
26:02
it isn’t it’s just like i said mr
26:06
plantation massa
26:08
camp uh needs to quit because
26:11
he’s going to have to you know and and
26:14
and
26:14
and stop this uh metaphorical like you
26:17
know these are my negroes
26:19
that’s that’s basically it and it’s time
26:22
for everybody to james baldwin
26:24
their asses the number of black voters
26:26
coming up in this next election in 2022
26:29
is gonna blow 2020 out the water
26:32
because you will you tell black people
26:35
that they cannot do something and that
26:36
you make a law
26:38
to say that black people cannot do
26:40
something oh we’re going to find a way
26:42
in this country to do it
26:44
and so they they don’t want
26:47
all those people that stood there while
26:49
he
26:50
while he signed that piece of paper in
26:53
front of a
26:53
portrait of a plantation are going to be
26:56
gone they’re going to get camp will be
27:00
gone
27:01
they’re going to get they’re going that
27:02
um
27:04
the republican guy the secretary of
27:07
state
27:08
that um trump is trying to run somebody
27:11
against him in a primary
27:13
you i mean come on he
27:16
he won’t he won’t lose his primary but
27:19
they’ll get rid of him too
27:20
they’ll get rid of a lot of people the
27:23
voters are going to clean
27:24
house why because they won’t want this
27:27
to happen again and they
27:28
will want this to be repealed and it can
27:31
only be repealed by cleaning out their
27:33
state house
27:35
yep how how much is 45 behind this
27:38
all of it oh he’s all of it why
27:41
all of it and you can tell because of
27:43
the questions that the media is asking
27:45
joe biden in his first
27:48
press conference i don’t give a flying
27:51
fig
27:51
newton if trump
27:54
is running again in 2024 i don’t care
27:58
what trump thinks about joe biden’s 60
28:01
percent approval
28:03
why are reporters asking him these
28:05
questions
28:07
why are they working in his in his
28:11
press conference they asked about kobe
28:14
but they asked about trump
28:16
we had this conversation last week why
28:18
are you still talking
28:20
about because they like those ratings
28:22
they are talking about a ghost they like
28:24
the ratings they like those ratings
28:26
and they’re they’re going to drive the
28:28
next election
28:30
but here’s the thing even if i’ve logged
28:32
off of watching it as consistently as i
28:35
did
28:36
i know there are many many more like me
28:38
who
28:39
feel a sense of calm with biden in and
28:42
the
28:42
where i’m receiving my information about
28:44
what’s happening on the status of the
28:46
day
28:47
i don’t need to be wired in like i was
28:49
before
28:50
i can look and i can accept these
28:52
answers as reasonable
28:54
and wait for the next day to see any
28:56
more developments but i don’t have to
28:58
stay glued like i did
29:00
with trump but these people act like
29:02
they’ve gone mentally insane too in the
29:04
media it’s like
29:05
they they’re on some like they’re all a
29:06
bunch of crack heads it’s like they’ve
29:08
got to get that next fix they’re on a
29:10
cracked mission all
29:12
of them msn cnn all of them act like
29:16
you know they’re on like meth meth
29:19
you know crystal meth they’re like
29:21
jonesing for them
29:22
it has to be united states they can’t be
29:24
mexican
29:25
like that uh congressman said oh gosh
29:28
so nicole nicole is saying that the
29:30
press conference was annoying and we
29:32
didn’t
29:32
even have that on schedule to chat about
29:34
this week but then you did any
29:36
of you ladies see the press conference
29:38
oh yeah i did
29:40
yeah i did i was i was amazed at
29:43
you know well do you think you know are
29:45
you going to you know your predecessor
29:47
already announced
29:49
that he was going to run again by this
29:51
point
29:53
are you but you haven’t announced yet
29:55
and when i heard that question
29:57
i was standing at the stove and i could
30:00
hear it
30:00
and i’m thinking myself damn can we get
30:03
through 2021 first
30:04
i know i mean the man was i’m like he
30:07
hasn’t even finished his first hundred
30:08
days
30:09
trump had to announce because guess what
30:12
trump had nothing else
30:13
going for him he wanted trump was on
30:16
a a continuous election cycle
30:19
he had no intention of governing you
30:22
know
30:22
biden was elected to do a job biden
30:25
wants to do the job
30:27
it’s like give the man a chance to do
30:29
the job he was like well
30:31
you know of course he’s like of course
30:33
i’m gonna run again but
30:35
i’m focused on this well do you think
30:37
you’ll run against trump and he’s like
30:39
i don’t even know if there’s gonna be a
30:41
republican party
30:42
i know and it’s true and it is it is
30:45
true and it’s like
30:46
i think that was an unfair question with
30:48
all of the things going
30:50
on in the country to focus
30:53
on that narcissist
30:57
in for the media i mean i
31:00
i write the news i’m so glad i don’t
31:03
have to
31:04
write about trump ever
31:07
right i’m glad i write black media
31:10
because
31:10
in black news because
31:14
to have that to have to have that have
31:16
to drive my everyday
31:19
work schedule would just drive me nuts
31:23
oh my gosh you would you wouldn’t want
31:25
to be covering the white house correct
31:26
and during 45 i would i would i know i
31:29
know you would
31:30
i’m covering the white house no no no no
31:33
no
31:33
don’t get me wrong like yeah turn the
31:37
weapon
31:37
the white house during 45 yeah but i’m
31:40
talking about now
31:41
it’s like now i would love to just so i
31:43
could get into it with the other ones
31:45
with the other pressed people and tell
31:47
them your ass down
31:51
now it’s just like every day all i’d
31:54
like to just be the
31:55
girl sitting back they go sit your ass
31:57
down you
31:58
i just want i just want five minutes you
32:02
and kaylee i would have loved that you
32:04
and kaylee
32:05
i would um katie mac and ninny yeah i
32:08
would have paid for that i would have
32:09
paid but so
32:10
here nicole haley mac and then come poop
32:12
you mean oh jeez
32:16
the reporter was baiting yes the
32:18
reporter yes
32:19
yep yes and uh bernie lynn saying they
32:23
want to be distracted
32:24
interesting enough i didn’t watch a
32:26
press conference read reviews
32:28
what subject did the media not ask about
32:31
during that press conference
32:33
okay they didn’t ask about it because
32:36
because there’s nothing interesting in
32:39
the fact that um
32:42
biden is getting it all under control
32:44
however
32:45
the challenge comes in that we’re about
32:47
to we’re about to get to a point
32:50
where things are escalating but we’re
32:53
also getting to a point we’re going to
32:54
have more states vaccinated
32:56
which is interesting like my state by
32:59
april 1st
33:00
they will have opened up to every age
33:03
but they could have asked things like
33:05
how are you dealing with it getting from
33:07
the rural communities into the
33:08
metropolitan communities
33:11
there’s you know because in some of the
33:14
uh
33:14
red states people are having
33:16
difficulties there are things
33:18
that could have been asked but they
33:20
don’t want to ask about that
33:22
you know it’s on to the next thing some
33:24
other kind of sensational
33:25
salacious bs and you know it’s quite
33:29
quite revealing about all of those
33:32
reporters
33:33
so here’s the cool thing we need an
33:36
interactive doctor vibe
33:38
yo well hey i’ve invited many people
33:42
if you want to come on with the ladies
33:44
so where are you
33:47
where are we nicole like i can
33:50
i can dm you right now i would love you
33:52
to come on the conversation
33:54
in real time you know you can hang with
33:56
these ladies anytime
33:59
yeah well we can we can look at that
34:03
because i’d love people to come on i
34:06
yeah and and and again i’m putting that
34:08
offer out there if you want to come on
34:10
one of our conversations uh my contact
34:12
information you’ll see at the end
34:14
would love you to come on or um dm me
34:18
via
34:18
dm me via twitter and say i’d like to
34:20
come on my twitter handle is
34:22
at d-r-v-i-b-e-s-h-o-w dot com
34:25
i’ll send you a link we’ll get you in
34:26
here so nicole says not now
34:28
okay no problem she said i’m in the bed
34:32
office
34:36
so so i’m in the office staring at still
34:39
still staring at some of my moving boxes
34:41
so there you go
34:43
so so then we should really now as jill
34:46
predicted a while back
34:47
get ready for an extended run of all
34:50
this in many states in the america
34:52
right now seriously dr vibe you know
34:55
getting warnick in
34:56
and we just gotten off of the november
34:59
elections and then we had to like
35:01
paste that out into january it’s been a
35:04
lot and
35:05
right now i’m like really and we know
35:08
warnock is coming back up
35:09
and i’m not too happy about having to
35:13
get back on the phones and have to
35:15
figure out what to do
35:17
only this time only this time
35:20
i will physically be able like many more
35:23
of us
35:24
to be in georgia when this goes down
35:27
so this is a very different thing most
35:29
of us having our time
35:30
let me ask you joe you go to you’re
35:32
going to go to georgia i might have to
35:34
right
35:34
a bunch of us might we might have to
35:39
folks would you not love to see stagger
35:42
state of things
35:43
with jill jones in georgia with that
35:47
would go we might have to do that yes
35:50
because we’ve got to put the bed once
35:53
and for all
35:54
i’m tired of it so if i’m tired imagine
35:57
i’m up for george i’m up for going back
35:59
to georgia
35:59
wow that would be large would love that
36:03
and i’ve got i’ve got political contacts
36:05
down there
36:06
yeah me too and down and you know down
36:10
uh we seriously when we were in the
36:13
heart of covid
36:14
we pulled it together imagine what we
36:16
can do when
36:17
everybody’s vaccinated you know what i
36:19
would wouldn’t i
36:20
something tells me if you two went to
36:22
georgia
36:23
why am i seeing a picture of you two
36:25
with stacey abrams just
36:28
there’s just something just coming in my
36:29
mind that that’s that’s going to be the
36:31
first thing that’s going to happen once
36:32
you get off the plane
36:34
just stacy is going to be then you guys
36:35
are going to have a love in and
36:37
i’ll just say okay i knew them when like
36:40
i knew them when
36:40
all right never know as long as we get
36:44
people who want to really vote
36:48
and uh yeah might have that first jill
36:50
jones album
36:53
like she’s young enough right um
36:56
and we just want to get people motivated
36:59
because
36:59
this is you know we have to support each
37:02
other midterms
37:03
midterms a lot of people just in the
37:05
midterms but
37:06
let’s move it on to our second
37:08
conversation tonight
37:10
president biden tasks harris with
37:12
stemming the migration on the southern
37:14
border
37:15
i think this has got to be one of the
37:16
most thankless jobs
37:18
in america yeah it is
37:22
but i think that she’s up to handling it
37:25
because
37:26
because she has the grit and the
37:29
determination to really
37:31
follow through on it put it this way
37:34
joe biden tasked her with doing the job
37:37
that obama
37:38
trusted him to do and so that shows you
37:42
how much faith he really has
37:44
in her and um how well he
37:47
he thinks that she’ll do in the in doing
37:49
the job and getting it
37:51
in making sure that it will be done
37:53
humanely
37:54
if joe biden is anything he’s very
37:57
humane
37:58
i’ve heard people on the left and the
38:00
right speaking about this
38:03
in a negative fashion both sides um
38:06
the left the extreme left who who wants
38:11
who don’t feel that in the press
38:12
conference that biden
38:14
answered the question properly about uh
38:17
what you do with the nine-year-old who’s
38:19
coming here i think abc
38:21
reporter asked this question like well a
38:24
nine-year-old who
38:25
was sent here and then you’re gonna like
38:28
let them
38:29
stay and it just turned into this really
38:31
where i feel like he may not have
38:33
all of the answers on this because from
38:35
what i could
38:37
i do know that there was a issue of like
38:41
they’re trying to create a system that
38:43
will determine
38:44
is there some a family member at home is
38:47
how did this go down what and that’s a
38:50
lot of
38:50
uh a lot of research and i don’t know
38:54
how they’re going to do that
38:55
it’s a problem when there’s 17 000
38:59
people coming daily
39:03
they can create pods as much as they
39:05
want but we also have an
39:06
added new additive with mexico
39:10
deciding not to do anything about it
39:13
when
39:14
trump at one point they were i just
39:16
think they must have been getting a
39:17
kickback somewhere from something
39:19
that or you know that that was the
39:22
reason they were more helpful
39:23
and that is a very big indicator we do
39:26
know that not everybody can leave their
39:28
country just because they don’t like it
39:30
and they’re not making enough money
39:32
because if that were the case we’d have
39:33
a lot of people leaving here
39:35
to go live somewhere else just because
39:38
like
39:39
the hell with it i’m black in america
39:41
and it’s you know
39:42
it’s a jacked up situation to be and i
39:45
want to go live in paris you know
39:47
we don’t all have that luxury so i’m a
39:50
little bit on the fence of like get this
39:52
together
39:53
because on one hand the children are
39:56
incredibly young
39:57
but they have been deporting 50 of them
40:00
because they are going back and they’re
40:01
locating the parents
40:03
and they’re sending them home trump and
40:05
them just sent them with a one-way
40:07
ticket
40:07
or a bus ticket and it didn’t who knew
40:09
where they ended up
40:10
that was a big thing this is not going
40:13
to go away because we do have honduras
40:17
uh el salvador all these other countries
40:20
that they keep coming in and i told you
40:22
guys once that i met somebody
40:24
who’d been kicked out of the country
40:25
like five times
40:27
and always found a way to come in
40:29
through
40:30
georgia on private planes um
40:33
so i don’t know why they’re not looking
40:35
into that because
40:37
they’re not just all walking across the
40:39
border there are people that are paying
40:41
a lot of money
40:42
to come in on private planes and they’re
40:44
paying off people
40:45
who work at customs or who work there
40:47
i’m sure
40:48
this is a task to clean the complete
40:51
house of it
40:52
is going to be very difficult but it is
40:56
it’s just they’ve got to get get down to
40:59
it
41:00
i don’t know what to say i feel bad for
41:02
kamala because
41:03
you know people got mad at her when she
41:06
tried to enforce
41:07
the truancy thing to go after the
41:09
parents when their kids weren’t going to
41:11
school
41:11
i for one love that proposition i was
41:14
like yeah
41:15
keith make sure your kids are behaving
41:18
what’s wrong with that being accountable
41:20
for that if you had a pit bull running
41:22
around in the street
41:23
and they’re biting everybody well we
41:25
can’t put your kids down
41:27
but we certainly can make you
41:29
responsible for the damages that your
41:31
child
41:31
does i mean up to a certain point
41:35
but nobody let her live that down and it
41:38
never got passed and
41:39
yeah so now she’s got to monitor all
41:41
these kids
41:43
that the nine-year-old that the abc
41:45
woman was talking about they did in fact
41:47
locate the mother
41:48
who put her child on a bus she did
41:52
and sent him on his own because you know
41:54
he would have better opportunity here
41:56
but that’s not
41:57
the reasons for many of the people
42:01
getting sanctuary
42:02
mainly they’re got to put that back like
42:05
why are you here that has to be
42:06
investigated
42:08
what your sanctuary is that’s it
42:11
yeah and and the other part of it too is
42:14
that
42:15
um kamala is definitely
42:18
more diplomatic than um
42:21
other people that well if you talk about
42:24
this past administration
42:26
than those people that were there i
42:28
think that
42:29
she’s not going to just work on
42:32
dealing with the present issue of
42:35
managing the numbers of people that are
42:37
coming here
42:38
but really trying to get to the root of
42:40
the why
42:41
and working with the countries where
42:44
they’re coming from
42:45
because unless we do something with
42:48
the countries that they’re coming from
42:52
we’re going to still see the numbers
42:53
regardless of who well we
42:55
did a lot to central america we did a
42:58
lot in nicaragua el salvador
43:00
and what many americans are actually
43:03
forgetting
43:04
is that everything that we did because
43:06
some of the people
43:07
moaning about it are actually uh
43:10
forgetting
43:10
with uh with the sandinistas cosa
43:14
you know all of that everything that
43:16
happened
43:17
there is residuals that come along
43:21
later that uh the countries pay the
43:23
price of
43:24
um and that was in the 80s you know so
43:28
here we are looking at the result
43:31
of some of our interventions
43:34
our going in and starting uh
43:38
businesses and oil companies and
43:40
electric companies and all of that
43:42
and then what happens when they get
43:44
abandoned and then what did we do or
43:46
were there indebted to us
43:47
in such a way because but not to us to
43:51
major corporations that get a lot of
43:53
kickbacks so
43:54
it’s more than it’s like somebody saying
43:58
you burnt my house down so i decided to
44:00
come and live with you
44:02
so you know that’s basically where we
44:04
are
44:05
it’s like house down i had nowhere to go
44:07
and now i’m knocking on your door and
44:09
you have the nerve
44:11
to act all indignant that i showed up
44:13
with my bags and stuff
44:15
yeah and people forget too that um
44:18
the gun manufacturers in the gun lobby
44:21
had such
44:22
a huge part in um playing in the
44:25
violence that’s going on
44:27
exactly in um in um
44:30
south america south and central america
44:32
exactly so the chickens
44:34
come back to roost when you know i’m
44:36
sorry
44:37
you guys are running drunk uh drugs and
44:40
you’re running
44:41
uh that people think that
44:44
drug use stops at the border of
44:47
uh mexico and here no we have the demand
44:51
for drugs is very high in america
44:54
it’s the demand that created all of this
44:58
so when you get rid of all these
45:00
mentally these drug addicts in america
45:03
and get them some help and get them off
45:05
the drugs maybe people can go back in
45:07
the world to living
45:09
a nice life people never really want to
45:11
be accountable for what they’re
45:12
accountable for
45:13
and how they contribute to the you know
45:16
deep panting
45:17
of the world and then being shocked when
45:19
you see a big old wiener looking at you
45:23
um i i i don’t i don’t feel good for
45:27
miss harrison i think it’s a no-win
45:31
it’s though here’s the thing it’s a
45:35
it’s a long-standing problem that’s
45:37
going to take more than four years
45:39
it’s going to take more than eight years
45:41
because because we spent
45:43
more than 50 years creating it um
45:47
but i think is she the right person to
45:50
deal with the here and now
45:52
of this emergency part of it yes i think
45:55
that she can handle it
45:56
i think what is unfair is that people
46:00
are saying are not giving her
46:03
even the chance to try exactly i mean
46:07
they’re saying she’s going to screw it
46:08
up
46:09
before she’s even started work on it
46:12
but she just named her day before
46:14
yesterday you’re right but i think that
46:16
people just like to be the contrary
46:18
voice in the room because they get
46:20
attention
46:21
we have such an attention seeking
46:24
populist
46:25
i mean i was telling um aisha today i am
46:28
sick
46:28
of mouthy ass musicians and singers and
46:31
dancers and
46:33
everybody blah blah look at me look at
46:34
me look at me blah blah i’m gonna say
46:36
something really crazy
46:38
you know get let me have a follow let me
46:40
have a bite let me have a taste
46:41
it’s so sick i don’t even respond to
46:44
half of these
46:44
nobody anymore i’m like next i see it
46:48
when it doesn’t make
46:49
i just wanna if you have something to
46:51
say and you’re like wow this is gonna be
46:53
like what you said dr vibe this is i
46:55
wouldn’t want this job that common these
46:56
are grown-up conversations
46:58
that you have i wouldn’t want to like
47:00
have this job and i’m like
47:02
yeah no that it’s got to be difficult
47:04
this is how
47:05
adults but these provocative
47:08
you know oh my god i’m done with that
47:12
i i went through a lot of that hell
47:15
online hell last year i don’t want it
47:17
and here’s the thing they’re making it
47:18
political they’re making they’re making
47:20
something
47:21
that is more of a humanitarian situation
47:25
political yes exactly because
47:29
you’re talking about we’re we’re also
47:31
dealing with
47:32
climate change uh different things that
47:34
are happening
47:36
resources people not having
47:38
infrastructure
47:40
and this is on governments to actually
47:43
deal with
47:43
too we do did used to have a united
47:47
nations that
47:48
we could deal with and unesco
47:51
and and different things to go hey wait
47:53
a minute you need to
47:55
pull your weight that’s what you go to
47:57
those meetings for in the
47:58
uh that’s what you’re doing there you
48:01
don’t just
48:02
you’re not no one is an island on this
48:04
thing you’ve got to go and say
48:06
hey you need to fix this or
48:09
whatever is going on more people would
48:12
rather have conspiracy theories and sit
48:14
and talk about what they think is going
48:16
on as opposed to
48:18
america went into a country got all up
48:20
in its business
48:22
uh left it hanging wide open and
48:25
now we’re seeing the result of decades
48:28
of gun sales drug sales
48:30
everything that actually keeps making
48:34
people corporations and people here
48:37
rich richer there are people sitting at
48:40
home
48:41
who don’t deal with the border but they
48:43
are directly
48:44
getting their funds and their coins by
48:48
doing something legitimately evil
48:50
and it’s not always yeah doing something
48:52
really shady
48:53
that’s it i’m sorry we are not we we’ve
48:56
got to stop
48:57
this oh america is the greatest nation
49:00
in the world
49:00
we have done some horrible horrible
49:03
things
49:03
this country’s done horrible things to
49:05
its own people
49:06
okay let alone let alone
49:10
other countries so if if if this country
49:13
if
49:13
this country um did the genocide of
49:17
native americans the way that it has
49:19
put black people in bondage and
49:22
um took asian people and
49:25
concentration camps imagine what we’ve
49:28
done
49:29
in countries that americans cannot
49:32
see well it’s called reparations we have
49:35
one state that’s decided to do it
49:38
uh one one town that has decided to
49:41
uh to be he’ll be held accountable and
49:45
for me i think that that’s that is so
49:48
progressive
49:49
and so adult and and really like looking
49:53
at your history and you’re not proud of
49:55
it but you try to make amends
49:57
it’s uh hopefully a step in the right
49:59
direction but
50:00
we have a lot of amends to make and
50:03
that not only as a country but as a
50:07
people
50:08
to other people just down the daily
50:11
just the stuff that we do so so let’s
50:14
close it up on this i would like to have
50:16
both of you
50:17
if you had a chance to be with vice
50:20
president
50:21
harris what would you say solution wise
50:25
needs to be done with the border the
50:27
american u.s
50:28
border crisis because still a crisis
50:31
what would you tell her
50:34
um the first thing i would tell her
50:36
would be
50:39
one that all of the all of the things
50:42
that she knows what needs to be done
50:44
she does know all the things like for
50:46
example
50:47
we’re we have a shortage of judges in
50:50
terms
50:50
of getting the cases through that’s why
50:53
those children are staying
50:54
in detention longer than they have to so
50:57
she knows she has to do something on
50:59
that front
51:00
i would tell her to do the things that
51:02
you know
51:03
need to be done the very practical
51:05
things first
51:06
because those are the things that you
51:09
can get out the way
51:10
the bigger problems start getting the
51:13
right people in place
51:14
to work on those and realize that
51:17
they’re going to take time
51:18
okay jill i really don’t know what i
51:21
would say to her because they do not
51:23
envy the situation i think that
51:25
there’s a tug at the heart on this and
51:27
then there’s just the
51:29
uh i’d have to really understand what
51:32
the intention is
51:33
i mean if the intention is to come and
51:36
deal with it as a government
51:37
versus as a human being
51:41
humanity or with possibly both uh
51:44
key elements is important but there’s so
51:47
much corruption in the world
51:49
and god only knows in another 50 years
51:52
if people in america won’t be like
51:54
trekking places because
51:56
and looking for some kindness somewhere
51:58
so i
51:59
i tend to not want to set up a situation
52:02
that comes back and bites you in the
52:04
behind when you need some help
52:06
um or how you could do it i mean we
52:08
might have to treat it like
52:10
we have done in afghanistan with some of
52:13
the programs or in pakistan
52:16
where we had programs to help people
52:19
but it’s really like the reason it’s
52:22
difficult for us at the time is a
52:24
financially
52:25
b the pandemic uh or
52:29
vice versa and also america can barely
52:32
stand on its own legs at the moment so
52:34
it’s all of these things are
52:36
really incredibly uh it’s going to take
52:39
a lot of people
52:41
to to try to you know be that nation
52:44
that people did look to for the
52:46
solutions because we can barely
52:48
we can’t even deal with a rogue state
52:51
that’s keeping black people from voting
52:53
so at this point it’s like it really is
52:56
coming down to
52:58
a lot of sophie’s choices being made
53:00
which is always very painful
53:03
i do have one other suggestion though
53:06
because they talk about
53:07
the crowding in the location that
53:10
they’re at
53:11
this fact that there’s no space in the
53:13
particular location
53:17
apartment building which is not living
53:19
you know what no
53:20
here’s the solution find a way to
53:24
to route everyone to montana
53:27
montana has a lot of space and very
53:30
little population
53:32
i think that if they reached out to some
53:34
of the modern
53:35
designers uh sustainable designers that
53:38
have come up with some of these
53:40
pre-k pre no yeah or and they have
53:43
prefab
53:44
construction from like uh i’ve seen some
53:47
in
53:48
in denmark and holland and different
53:50
things and you have these
53:52
these facilities i mean then they’d be
53:54
saying
53:55
some of them are quite nice but even to
53:59
reach and look into more environmental
54:02
uh sustainability uh solutions
54:05
on how to house them because uh if
54:08
anything or
54:08
the decor the bunk beds that’s great
54:12
it they did the best they can with it
54:14
but
54:15
you know the main thing is someone who’s
54:17
really great with logistics and getting
54:19
these kids back on their plane or
54:21
getting them to a destination
54:23
that’s key but that’s only the band-aid
54:26
because the main thing
54:28
is locating the timing of the judges
54:31
we know that and getting them home or
54:34
you know they can come or they’re going
54:36
to stay
54:37
it’s very very difficult but for some of
54:40
the housing things
54:41
i would say reach out to some some of
54:44
the pre-fabrication
54:46
places that have done some amazing uh
54:49
modern places i’d live in myself and
54:52
uh just figure it out but but you see
54:55
even that is better than
54:57
living where they’re living these
54:58
children and you’re dealing with people
55:00
putting their kids and sending them
55:02
alone they’re obviously entrusting them
55:05
to somebody
55:06
we also have had um people coming from
55:09
china here that’s another one that we’re
55:12
not dealing with
55:13
and different asian countries and then
55:15
they have to spend how many years to pay
55:17
them off
55:18
for them bringing each family member
55:20
over at a time
55:21
so it’s not anything new but
55:24
you know definitely the republicans are
55:27
going to make us feel like this is you
55:29
know
55:30
an outrage it’s the first thing they’ve
55:32
ever seen
55:34
all right let’s move further dr deborah
55:37
burke
55:37
shares a chilling conclusion as america
55:40
arrives at a moment
55:41
of introspection on the conor virus now
55:44
we’re broadcasting live on march 27th
55:47
apparently tomorrow
55:48
night march 28th on cnn dr sanjay gupa
55:51
gupta is going to be doing a a
55:53
documentary special about
55:55
the carnavirus effect or impact on
55:59
america and he does sit down with
56:01
deborah burks who was part of the white
56:03
house staff
56:04
who was uh for in 45’s administration
56:07
and one of the things she did say and i
56:09
saw an article she said
56:11
if the former administration was more
56:13
proactive
56:14
she feels a hundred thousand deaths
56:16
could have been
56:17
prevented now we’ve been new
56:22
we’ve been new my my cousin had been
56:24
saying to me that dr
56:25
burks always looked like an abused woman
56:27
up there
56:28
standing beside all of them she always
56:30
looked like they just smacked her the
56:32
hell up before she came on stage
56:34
and was standing there with the scarves
56:37
and rolling her eyes
56:38
and i was expecting her to do that thing
56:41
one day like help
56:43
you know that’s the international help
56:44
sign if you ever
56:46
are in some situation you
56:49
do that to let people know you need help
56:53
um anyway dr burks
56:56
i don’t know why they’re gonna just
56:58
carry this on and keep talking about it
57:00
i i will watch it because i hope she has
57:02
something to pass on
57:04
but now she’s burnt because she doesn’t
57:07
have a job and she was forced into
57:08
retirement
57:10
so this is where we are with dr burks
57:13
and
57:13
i don’t know how i feel about that
57:15
personally
57:17
she feels a lot of guilt that’s what her
57:20
issue is probably her whole thing right
57:23
now
57:24
is guilt there are all these there are
57:27
more than half a million dead people
57:30
they knew people were going to die
57:33
and their premise was this number of
57:35
people were going to die
57:38
if there was not going to be
57:39
intervention well she sat
57:42
there under this man who refused to do
57:45
the intervention
57:47
who wouldn’t even so much as wear a mask
57:50
as an example to the
57:51
ignorant people who supported him
57:53
because you know monkey see monkey do
57:56
would not wear a mask and she
58:00
sat there in next to his non-mask
58:04
wearing covet having coveted spreading
58:07
self
58:08
and said nothing
58:12
but you know aisha i just don’t
58:14
understand i must be a very different
58:16
kind of person because
58:18
if i’m standing there under such a
58:20
situation as
58:21
serious as this thing is i honestly
58:25
may i think i would have been like what
58:27
the hell are you what the
58:29
is going on with you this is not true
58:32
people
58:33
snap the hell this man’s crazy i don’t
58:36
know
58:36
i i honestly don’t know how they went
58:39
with the okie doke and now i’m supposed
58:40
to take time out of my day
58:42
to hear you tell me what i already
58:44
thought
58:45
was going on anyway now you want to
58:47
spill the tea
58:48
yeah i don’t know it’s a little bit like
58:51
getting a box of instant tea
58:53
as opposed to the leaves you know what
58:55
i’m saying it’s like okay girlfriend
58:57
those hundred thousand people because
59:00
you sat there
59:01
thinking what you’re gonna change donald
59:04
trump you sat there too
59:06
and you collected a paycheck you didn’t
59:08
even
59:09
think to just jump out johnny out the
59:11
box and like smack him up across the
59:13
side of the head or something
59:14
like this yeah
59:21
deniability she’s sitting there like
59:24
yeah
59:25
now do you want to have more salt in the
59:27
wounds of the people of a hundred
59:29
thousand people who died we have a
59:31
country that won’t even prosecute people
59:33
who storm the capital
59:35
you think they give a damn about a
59:36
hundred thousand people
59:38
exactly people who lost these people
59:41
will have to keep hearing about it
59:43
over and over and over again there’s not
59:46
even
59:46
you know honestly doctor perks go retire
59:51
and deal with your guilt deal with it
59:54
black beauty is saying she stood right
59:55
there like an abused woman when she
59:57
when he suggested we use bleach exactly
60:00
i mean that was the time to speak up and
60:02
say
60:02
that was a real time to speak up she
60:04
just sat there and just
60:06
because we legitimately had somebody who
60:10
drank a few people who drank it and died
60:12
and you know
60:13
there is a reason that on the box of
60:16
nails it says please do not swallow
60:18
for some magical crazy reason in america
60:21
you have to tell people not to swallow
60:23
nails or marbles
60:25
or stick them up your nose
60:29
the moment he said shine a light inside
60:32
the body
60:32
how do you put a light inside the body
60:34
there are only two ways
60:36
that you’re going in that are
60:37
non-surgical
60:39
i’m sure a few people tried that one too
60:42
put a flashlight right up there
60:44
oh or a light bulb so do
60:48
do you feel bad for her at all no no
60:52
she can go to hell as far as i’m
60:53
concerned no she took more time to
60:56
tie those scarves around her neck than
60:58
she did
61:00
uh to give a damn about telling the
61:03
truth
61:04
and you know doing that kabuki eye rolls
61:07
like
61:08
but you know i don’t like to have to
61:10
assume or make assumptions about what
61:13
someone’s thinking
61:14
because i’m always going to think oh my
61:16
god she wants to tell us something
61:18
no the fact that she didn’t tell us
61:20
something then
61:21
says a lot more about her nobody you
61:24
know
61:25
how many reputable people threw away
61:27
their careers behind trump
61:29
yes many jumped out and it wasn’t she’s
61:32
one of them
61:33
but she was on the inside she couldn’t
61:35
figure out how to set him up
61:36
she couldn’t figure out how to make him
61:38
look like even more than he already did
61:41
she couldn’t go and report it to a
61:43
newspaper
61:44
or even no she never did there’s nothing
61:47
she couldn’t even be
61:48
anonymous like miles taylor that’s the
61:50
part that gets no
61:52
no she walked in there every day with
61:54
her little ferragamo shoes on
61:56
and didn’t have a problem
62:01
oh my goodness okay well ladies
62:04
we have reached oh it’s pro one of the
62:08
all the shows all the conversations are
62:09
good but you get primed for this part of
62:12
the show for some strange reason
62:15
so tonight’s episode’s cockroach
62:20
republican senator ted cruz is being
62:22
mocked for
62:23
his documentary-style trip to the u.s
62:25
mexico border
62:28
why are you picking on ted oh my god
62:33
first of all it was cringe-worthy but it
62:35
was so
62:36
but it was hysterical because they’re
62:39
out there him and little lindsay
62:41
and yeah whoever little lindsay he’s
62:43
like your little fun now
62:48
little lindsay and um whoever else they
62:50
have with them
62:51
on this boat right they’re like in the
62:53
middle of this river
62:55
like i swear to god i told jill i’m like
62:58
they look like um they were playing
63:02
hunters right that’s that’s what they
63:04
look like
63:05
and they’re in the water it’s dark and
63:08
all these security people that they have
63:10
have these ar-15 rifles and everything
63:13
and they’re talking about how they saw
63:14
these drug cartels
63:16
were attacked by these drug cartels and
63:19
beta o’rourke had the best
63:21
comeback ever i love him
63:25
because they don’t told him like you
63:26
know instead of doing
63:28
cosplay uh you know cosplay senator
63:32
stuff
63:32
you know you can do real senator stuff
63:35
here’s a list of the things that you
63:36
could be doing right now
63:37
if you look at this footage and then go
63:41
look at that
63:42
james woods movie el salvador
63:46
it was a uh oliver stone movie
63:50
its film the documentary has the same
63:53
kind of vibe
63:55
uh the same because these people you
63:58
know and james wood is a
63:59
nut job like he’s one of trump
64:01
supporters he’s one of them
64:04
and it it just talk about being out of
64:07
their
64:07
element these people are
64:11
you know i i can’t even i can’t even
64:14
believe they represent people in this
64:15
nation
64:16
it’s their buffoons they are buffoons
64:21
tucked in his pants and he looks like
64:24
you know a pinata you know
64:27
it’s like are you kidding me i mean i
64:31
need to
64:31
he should just be at a child party and
64:33
everybody can like
64:34
bang him open i don’t know you know
64:36
what’s so funny about ted cruz is that
64:38
ted cruz is talking about how mexico is
64:39
so bad
64:40
it’s all air but look he’s talking about
64:42
how mexico is so
64:43
bad but where’s the first place he ran
64:45
to when um
64:47
texas had their massive snow storm now
64:50
the best thing was seeing his little
64:51
girl pull away from him when he tried to
64:53
give her a kiss the other day
64:55
i actually thought that was a little no
64:57
i actually got a little bit like oh
65:00
that that’s really there’s something
65:03
ain’t right there either
65:04
that was something wrong yeah under the
65:08
bus but i don’t think uh
65:09
he’s a happy camper to live with there’s
65:11
something really it was kind of scary
65:14
actually she pulled away and then she
65:15
pulled back like
65:17
it was just odd it was an odd
65:20
thing and and
65:24
little girls we’ve all been little girls
65:26
we tend to know
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that it was actually you know
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everybody’s like biden touching
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everybody but this was
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this was this girl’s dad and i think
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he’s a screamer and a yeller
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and i get a very strong impression that
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he’s terrorizes their household
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well he terrorizes my psychic abilities
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he terrorizes his tenant we see what he
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does
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there you know well he’s got an
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incredibly big ego but he is a cockroach
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and um there’s not enough spray in
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america there’s
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no exactly
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and lindsay is you know a cockroach turd
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i didn’t even know he’s so he he’s just
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the worst he’s just the slime he
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if you’re gonna pick a wingman of all
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wingmen i mean
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lindsey graham i mean i know okay and
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why didn’t they just give him his
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african queen hair his hat with a little
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net over it
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i mean you know she was having a hard
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time out there
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that was so cool
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was so wrong
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jill you’ve gone to a new depth that
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without you know that
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was she with miss lynn she was like um
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she was missing her little
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fan and i know because you know she
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caught the baby first had the papers
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like oh my god i was about to say that
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i was about to say the papers oh i’m
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getting the papers
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i swear to god i was about to say that
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yeah should i pull up
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pull out my white flag right now or
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something like
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but this these people dr vibe it’s a
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joke and it’s so embarrassing
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just to see them doing this it was
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absolute insanity and now they’re going
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through like hoops to create
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production on this going up the folk
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you know they had a director and
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everything because they had a boom mic
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that’s what i’m telling you it’s
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from there was a second in el salvador
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el salvador in the movie had a section
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that had to look like it was kind of a
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documentary
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i’m telling you they bid it from there
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reminiscent
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black beauty lmao chillah
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taxpayers money for this documentary
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awful yes yeah oh yeah oh yeah
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they’re spending their money nope wow
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and guess what they’re not spending the
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red state money either because they
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barely pay
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in my hometown this week who vice
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president harris
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oh right she did yes she did
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she certainly has been getting around
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yep she had some real pizza
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she yeah she’s been doing the miles
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she’s she’s been really working more
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than like we can say
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pence okay and you know what you’re
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reading my alleged
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mind because they’re going what’s
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happened to him oh
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god i don’t know maybe he’s still hiding
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him and mother are quite happy at home
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not doing anything you know
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he gets his one glass of warm milk at
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night before bed
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because you know that’s about as wild as
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it gets for him on a saturday night
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sour he’s so sour sour like that milk
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let me ask you a very interesting
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question though
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if he was totally open wouldn’t you love
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to have an interview with him
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just to if he was if he was really old
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no no i i would love i would really love
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no one’s asked him
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media wise what was going through your
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mind
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that day of the res insurrection i would
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love and i would
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love to i would ask you do you think
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they would have lynched you
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yeah i would have i actually don’t think
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he thought they were going
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to i i really i think
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you know if the media was really doing
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the job that’s the person you need to
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interview true but he won’t do it he’s
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too small publicly i don’t think he’ll
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say anything i think he’s a coward
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yeah but no but i was thinking i’m going
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wow like
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what is going through i would just i’d
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love to be a fly on the wall just
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in his mind over there you need to fly
69:44
in his hair
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okay conversation’s over thank you
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ladies as usual we’d like to thank
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you elisha for being troublesome as they
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always are
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but always factual and to the point as
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always we like to say thank you for
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taking their
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thank us for them having us here one who
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got up and one who’s going to go to bed
70:04
and set somebody so i
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i jill as always if people want to get
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in touch with you how can they do that
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twitter jill d jones it’s the easiest
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one
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oh and by the way my daughter has a new
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song out
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uh her name is azusena azu
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scna the song is called ticking clocks
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go check it out i think you’ll love it
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it definitely relates to she’s
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definitely been around me
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you can tell that by her song okay
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all right all right next up aisha k
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staggers
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you reach me at ihstaggers on twitter
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that’s where i’ll be tonight probably
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yeah okay all right
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oh that was nice
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oh okay well it’s dr vibe here host and
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producer of the award winning doctor
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vibe show
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the home of epic conversations on the
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host of epic conversations
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2020 podcast news award winner and
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2018 innovation award winner given out
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by the canadian ethnic media association
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also once a month i host the only online
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conversation
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that is sponsored by dove men care it’s
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also co-sponsored by
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dad central canada’s national fatherhood
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organization
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also once a month i not once a month i’m
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also the board chair
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for the global food and drink initiative
71:31
it’s a multimedia not
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not non-profit sorry that showcases
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blocks in the diaspora
71:37
in food wine and travel i’d just like to
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thank everyone who came out see
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like getting some nice comments here t
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stevens saying excellent show
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jen myers haven’t seen your name before
71:48
but
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thank you so much and please come back
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please please come back
71:54
also the the some of the regs black
71:56
beauty bertie lynn
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nicole and again i’m gonna put it out
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there folks
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and also leroy mckenzie uh you want i’ve
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known him for a long time digitally
72:06
thanks for him to come on a little bit
72:07
earlier on with his comments
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again if anyone would like to come on
72:12
and
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hang out with these ladies and myself
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please please please
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i’m going to put my twitter handle up
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here right now
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if i can find it probably can but i’ll
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give you my email address there’s my
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email address dr period
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v-i-b-e at the d-r-v-i-b-e-s-h-o-w
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dot com also if you want to reach out to
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me on
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instagram it’s at the
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d-r-v-i-b-e-s-h-o-w
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and twitter at d-r-v-i-b-e-s-h-o-w
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as always i’d like to close off my epic
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conversations with this
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live your life as a dream if you can
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dream it you can make it sometimes you
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have to get smaller to get stronger
72:52
block assumptions then aim bigger and
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better and higher and wider
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also remember remember to give yourself
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grace and love
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faith and respect look forward to seeing
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you next saturday
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we’re going to be in april 9 pm eastern
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time unless something else changes but
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follow us on social media
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for any sort of updates on that god
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bless peace well keep the faith and walk
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good
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so
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that’s
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foreign
Aisha K. Staggers had her first major publication, an album review, in The New Haven Register while just a sophomore in high school. Another series of reviews published in The Hartford Courant followed. By the time she reached college, Aisha was writing for the literary magazine and interning at a local radio station, ABC-affiliate as a writer in the news department and in the A&R department of an independent record company.
As a graduate student at Fisk University, Aisha asked Dr. Raymond Winbush to chair her thesis because 1) he was one of the most renowned voices in black culture and academia, and 2) he was a Prince fan. His scholarship and guidance led Aisha to an early career as a professor of social sciences and later an administrator in higher education.
Aisha has also served as a director of education and policy research centers and on the staff of legislative commissions. She previously served on the Executive Board of the CT Young Democrats Women’s Caucus, an avid campaigner and has remained active in politics and public policy.
Jill Jones is our special guest for this conversation. Ms. Jones is an activist, feminist, former collaborator with Paisley Park.
Jones is an activist, feminist, former collaborator with Paisley Park.
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