Dr. Vibbe Hosts Aisha K. Staggers With Special Guest Jill Jones “Staggers State Of Things – March 20, 2021″
On the March 20, 2021 edition of Staggers State Of Things, the ladies talked about:
– 8 Dead in Atlanta Spa Shootings, With Fears of Anti-Asian Bias
– The number of migrants arriving at the U.S.-Mexico border this year is on pace to be the highest in 20 years
– President Joe Biden’s first 100 days aren’t over yet and people are criticizing him
– The country has counted 100 million Covid-19 vaccine doses administered 59 days into Biden’s first 100 days
– Biden White House Sandbags Staffers, Sidelines Dozens for Pot Use
– GOP lawmakers who refused to honor Capitol cops accused of fundraising off of their ‘no’ votes
– This episode’s cockroach: Chip Roy
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what is up everybody it’s dr vibe here
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organization and
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another hat on this head that you can’t
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see is i’m the boy chair for the global
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food and drink initiative
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it is a multimedia not-for-profit
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that is showcases blacks that are
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involved
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in food wine and travel throughout the
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diaspora
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we’re broadcasting live on march 20th
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first day of spring
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so i don’t know where you are but today
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in toronto was a nice sunny day
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it was warming up so spring is hopefully
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on its way
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but more importantly it’s a saturday
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night there was a song by
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earth wind and fire called saturday
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night so i wonder well i can’t play it
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because it’ll
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i know that youtube or facebook will
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just cut it but and i’m not going to
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sing it but we do have a singer on
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with us tonight maybe she can do it one
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time but you know what
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it’s time for aisha and jill what’s
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going on asian jill
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hey how are you doing hello oh
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and i do notice uh a certain individual
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behind aisha k
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staggers yeah that would be my prince
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graffiti art
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who did that i found it on
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um etsy nice
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how much how much do you want to tell us
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how much you paid
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for that one i think i paid a hundred
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and twenty nine
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that’s not right it’s on canvas
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it’s nice it’s nice really really nice
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it looks good it looks like a photograph
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it that’s what i thought it does
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pick a photograph so uh what’s been
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going on this week ladies
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other than some usual crazy stuff what’s
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been going on everything all right on
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your end of the world
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yeah things balance
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we’ll leave it at that we’ll leave it at
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that you’re moving yeah
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and you’re moved it looks good
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yeah so you can’t see all the stuff
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that’s in boxes still
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yeah i like if you like the way she did
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it and you can’t
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well you know what oh oh there’s a
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request here already
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i know
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well maybe one day it’ll happen real
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django
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maybe one day we want to thank everybody
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that’s jumping in live and as always
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please uh give your comments thoughts
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opinions
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you know the ladies will respond to them
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in real time
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and we’re looking forward to their epic
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conversation tonight but
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let’s start off on an unfortunate note
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eight dead in atlanta spa shootings with
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fears of anti-asian bias
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ladies thoughts
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i think that if they keep
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we’ve we’ve had so many shootings in
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america
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it looks like it’ll come back sadly
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because
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uh we have a lot of racists who live
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here
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and angry white men white american males
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are dastardly i mean they’re like
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not all of them not all of them but
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they’re not making the ones who aren’t
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look
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very appealing um it’s really
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there there’s a mental problem we’ve
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known from the in cell groups that
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they’ve existed and they’re fomenting
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and they’re sort of expanding um
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but the way that these people show their
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rage
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is uh it’s this is their only way and
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and with this case particularly he’s a
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21 year old guy
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who uh claims to have a sex addict
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sex addiction um went into these parlors
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massage houses
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and just shot everybody and uh
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then basically the sheriff came out and
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said he was having a bad day
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now that comment right there what about
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that
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well come find out that that guy was
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actually had
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worked for black water at one point as a
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mercenary so
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everybody everybody is just revealing
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who they
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are i mean this is blatant there’s
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blatant racism
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and yet they all feel like they have
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enough balls to come out
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and say this but then they want to dance
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around the fire a little bit
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and it’s time that their feet get held
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to the fire you know
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there there are so many things of the
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fetishism
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of asian women of
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black women all of it it’s all just
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coming to a
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tipping point and you know the white
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caucasian people in this country need to
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really
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really step it up they’re doing a
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miserable job
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at really handling themselves and
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and getting to the root of their
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sickness
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because it’s pretty vile what’s going on
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it didn’t stop when there were children
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being shot in schools
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and you know all these attacks on asians
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and uh there was a 76 year old woman in
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san francisco
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if you see she they think i
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there’s a gofundme for her she’s still
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has lost some kind of vision in one eye
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they’re waiting but
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when you see the aftermath of people the
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assailant was being put on a stretcher
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and taken to the hospital because
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grandma
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found a stick and she whooped his behind
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i don’t know he was bloody beaten
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i think his arm was broken the way he
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was holding it on the stretcher
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but just to see you know
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him being given that treatment
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was difficult for me because
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they should have made him wait it should
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have made him walk to the hospital
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i i just at that point she’s 76 two
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black eyes um it’s heinous
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what’s more shocking is that there
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aren’t people
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defending or jumping in and protecting
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these people when it’s happening
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and that goes uh you know brown people
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haven’t jumped in i mean to i mean how
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do you let a 76 year old woman get
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beaten on the street
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two black eyes so obviously he hit her
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once
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and then he hit her again so the fact
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that there wasn’t
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anybody who stepped up is really pretty
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disgusting
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on a city street that that’s a problem
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i i mean i don’t know what’s going on it
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just shows the more depravity
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you know today i saw so many tweets from
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people in europe saying americans are
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just not nice people
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it was just going going going there were
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so many people from all over the world
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like
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really saying americans are just not
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nice people period
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and they might be right the collective
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are really
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uh malignant at this point even numb
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to getting involved or whatever it’s
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very very scary
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aisha um
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there’s so much to break down here the
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one thing that it all
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comes down to is that christopher ray
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said it himself our biggest
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problem in this country is white
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supremacist groups
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and the terrorism that is wreaked upon
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this country
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by white supremacy is going to be our
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downfall
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it is what it is this destruction
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of our institutions it’s the destruction
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of this country and until we
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really sit and focus on dismantling
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and destroying it and that includes
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dealing with the people who
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perpetrate it we’re not going to
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see an end to any of this this
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is this this incident was white
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supremacy
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period full stop this man claims that he
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had a sex addiction
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when they know that he drove past
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several strip clubs and
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sex shops and all that to these two spas
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and the women that he shot the women the
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asian women who were killed but between
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the ages
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of 51 and 74.
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so explain that to me how
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it was to stop his quote unquote sex
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addiction
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sex addiction and then he point blank
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shot them in the head if you can’t
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control
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yourself if the problem is not
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theirs the problem is yours
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um but even still that is
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to and hate crime because it’s a hate
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crime against women
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we’re not just talking right we’re not
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just talking hate crime against
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asians we’re talking a hate crime
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against asian women
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specifically um
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the the anger that
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i feel about this and
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seeing it seeing it rectified is that
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women of color are not safe
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period in this country no we we’re
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getting it from both sides and
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working women of color um
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because you know you see they don’t go
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after
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diplomats they go after the working
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women of color who are available
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and um
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it just there’s no other way
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there’s no way of explaining it and i’m
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tired you know
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you talk about um the way that they the
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ways in which they talk about us
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it’s like oh we have a negro problem
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there’s yellow peril they talk about us
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as if we’re the problem when the
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problem’s never been
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you know black people asian people
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native american people any brown people
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it’s always them they’re the problem
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it’s always their problem they don’t
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want
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us any of us so
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until they take care of their problem
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collectively
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we’re going to keep seeing incidents
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like this happen and martin luther king
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had this
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um this
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you know this these quotes in the letter
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to birmingham
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jail when he said that
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it’s the white liberal
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the um the white moderate who does
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nothing the nihilism of the white
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moderate who does nothing
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is what is why you know white supremacy
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persists exactly you have white people
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who will do nothing but give lip service
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to how oh this is bad
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but those are your skinfolk do
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like i told you that’s your person
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you deal with your people because you
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expect us to deal with our own
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and to be responsible for our people you
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need to be you need to be responsible
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for yours
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and stop patting them on the back and
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coddling
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these fragile white men first and saying
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things like they had a bad day
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i have a bad day i fell on my ass today
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out of a chair okay that was a bad day
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okay right i didn’t go out and
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shoot somebody i
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got up dusted myself off and ate a piece
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of candy
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well anyways official
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who would look at crimes with
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dead bodies anyone who
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gave a damn would never utter those
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words
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there’s just no way i mean you it really
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it was a deliberate comment
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there’s no apology that anyone should
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accept for that
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this is a professional and the fact that
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you could go to a crime scene
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and therefore utter that as well he had
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a bad day
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that um that to me uh he’s in the wrong
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job
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and he needs to be removed because these
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are people that will not take us forward
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they’re only revealing themselves for
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who they are
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and you know it’s so i’m just so tired
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of this racist of having to talk about
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it
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right and i’m not in the way like that i
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keep
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saying we talk and there’s more of a
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more heinous crime following another one
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after another one
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and it’s like when is it gonna change i
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mean when
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because talking to you know there’s a
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young girl who i put on my instagram she
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had a
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a poem and she made a poem which was
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like we’ve got to stop inviting white
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people to the cookout
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and i thought about it for a long time i
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think we’ve all tried to embrace them
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and say please help us
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but it’s getting old because nothing’s
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changing
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and the foot in someone’s behind that we
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need
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them to put it we don’t have the time
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the energy the patience the mental
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uh stamina and strength to keep handling
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letting them handle it um
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that’s the problem that’s happening with
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me and
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yeah i’m i get more angry as the days go
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on and that’s okay
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because all they’re doing is putting all
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the people of color
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lined up on one side and we will
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outnumber them
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we do and we will and we will always so
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if that’s what they want more power to
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them i’m just gonna drop because there’s
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a
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number of comments i want to catch up on
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in the screen here so first up
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real django just trying to keep my
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coolness i don’t want to offend anyone
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and chris not a dashly white man here
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but yes i see jill’s point
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especially since my own father had a
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definite racist mindset
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thankfully my mother was a polar
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opposite in the way she saw to my
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raising
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the white staunch republican men in this
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country have been given license to voice
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their opinions and words yet
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to act on them right on the money we
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must keep speaking out
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and up none of us are safe if anyone
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else belongs to a targeted marginalized
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group
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that and i’ll come down here he can
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that and as far as the comments from the
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sheriff’s department rep
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it’s not your job to editorialize he
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needs to be fired
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clearly he is racist
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real django uh sex addict
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bs so so is that going to be the excuse
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thrown out here when whites kill people
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of color
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this has to be nipped in the bud and he
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also mentions
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and then given the excuse that another
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mental medical weakness did it not
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racism racism
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is a mental illness it is
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and one more thing i just hear he says
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real django says
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fixing racism won’t be an overnight fix
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it probably will take 100 to 500 years
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to fix
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will take longer than that but there we
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go so we’re just caught up in the
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comments ladies
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and gentlemen they forget that remember
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uh
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the guy who was targeting people in
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their cars
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in baltimore and terrorizing john
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malveaux and his stepson
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and you know what ultimately happens is
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when you disenfranchise one group and
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and you keep like
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what they’re doing in our community it
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will only
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it will only uh shed
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more bloodshed down the line because
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they have to be silenced the republican
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males
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they have to be i don’t i believe that
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the filibuster
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needs to be gone i don’t even like that
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biden wants to even give them
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consideration because
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at this point we need a break
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from anything of that mindset they have
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too much power as chris langford said
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they have way too much power and they
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are using it
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and when you do that to people after a
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while
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and you don’t and we don’t see any
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results we just keep
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seeing more destruction and more people
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being killed
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and who cares with the media how they
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want to depict it people will
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they’re about to set it off now if
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that’s what they want
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then you know i don’t know what to say
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but it will be the downfall of this
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country if they do not
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hold these men accountable for the
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things that they are doing
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i don’t know what’s taking uh these
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attorney generals so long
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to start making moves the fbi with their
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people start prosecuting them just start
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like lining it up just do it because we
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need to see it going like this we don’t
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need to have media
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interviewing people for 60 minutes
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either
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they i’m sorry you’re in jail you’re in
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jail
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you do not need to be on 60 minutes
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talking about what happened at the
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capitol
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these are political moves and these are
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people who should not have rights when
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you’re in jail you don’t have rights
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well do you remember i would not i did
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not watch 60 minutes because they aired
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that stupid capital guy who calls
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himself the shaman the mama’s boy
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i would i refuse and it’s time to start
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making these people accountable even the
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media because the media
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is a thirsty little what’s that snake
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little
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little fish piranhas they look for blood
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anywhere they can find it they even make
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and concoct these stories
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which legitimate to a degree but then
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when it’s a down
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time and it’s smooth they totally come
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in and want to just stir
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the stir the pot and i’ve always said
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those who stir that pot
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need to lick that moon because
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personally
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enough is enough you can stir it up but
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but
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we have people who are mentally
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not fragile but racism they dragged a
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man
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behind a car mr bird they did that
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they have done that and this wasn’t very
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long ago
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they have done all sorts of things when
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they’ve been given
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you know permission to ahmad arbory
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these
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cases are still in you know suspension
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and we never see the light of day we
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will stay on it and we have to stay very
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focused on it
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because if they don’t get justice would
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none of us have it
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but i’m telling you there there’s a new
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breed of people
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sitting back silent that they that isn’t
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even on their radar yet
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who are sitting there going you don’t
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take care of this somebody else will
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and that’s that’s how it’s going to go i
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mean it’s just i can even psychically
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see that
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these are the worst kind of people
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because they don’t care what
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makes a terrorist a terrorist is the
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fact that they’re willing to
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die for this stuff to reign
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on people yeah built to reign tear on
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people that’s why
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they’re willing to die for it they’re
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willing to
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lose their lives in the process
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and so those people who are at this
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capitol building
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each one of them was ready to die that
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day for the
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for the cause that shows you
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how sick all of this is they were
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willing to die for the cause
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now what i think
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about how we’re handling this
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is that we’re not handling it at all no
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we’re not
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we find other um things to call it
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so we don’t have to deal with the main
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problem
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if the main problem is white supremacy
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we try to call it something else
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so oh no it can’t be white supremacy it
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has to be sex addiction
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or it can’t be because he’s a pampered
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spoiled white kid
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it has to be because it was his ass
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burgers that made him go in
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and shoot those 20 little kids and there
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are so many teachers
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it can’t be it can’t be because
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oh he was he was just a um fragile white
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guy
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and he just you know that he went
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and shot two um protesters
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during the um summer uh during the
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summer
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of people protesting it couldn’t be that
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no it has to be something else
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no it’s not something else until you
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call a thing a thing
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you can’t deal with it i mean i was
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thrown off of twitter
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for 12 hours the other day because i
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dare say anything
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about this 21 year old who killed these
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poor asian family and destroyed so many
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homes
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and families and i said
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and twitter obviously didn’t accept my
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appeal i was like
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he should be castrated he should be
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um he should be given a lobotomy
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and then given the death penalty and so
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the reason i was basing it on
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i was talking about a sentence because
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in georgia particularly
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they still have the lobotomy and they
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still have
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the um chemical castration and they
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still have the death penalty
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but twitter didn’t see it my way it was
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like protect the little boy
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who had the gall to ask a question am i
22:55
going to go to jail for life
23:01
they said he asked that am i going to be
23:04
put away for life
23:06
yes yes you are yes you are if you get
23:09
to keep it
23:10
well what life plus 30 because he’s
23:13
going
23:13
look life plus 30 times six
23:17
exactly that’s 180 years added on to
23:20
that because
23:21
they’re gonna attack uh they’re going to
23:23
tack on the hate crime for each person
23:26
well i just say is this one of those
23:28
states where your former president
23:30
loaded up
23:31
having republicans so let’s keep an eye
23:34
on that
23:34
fact right he won’t get away but
23:38
he won’t get he’ll he’ll get the the
23:40
dylan ruth treat
23:41
the dylan roof treatment because if they
23:43
can if they
23:44
decide that it is going to be a hate
23:46
crime
23:47
he will get the death penalty because we
23:50
know that
23:51
joe biden wants this uh a couple of the
23:55
house uh representatives and and
23:58
different
23:59
congress people came together on friday
24:01
to put across the hate crimes bill we
24:04
should have always had a hate crimes
24:05
bill
24:06
sorry to say yes but here’s the other
24:08
problem dr vibe
24:09
in this country we are having a very
24:11
difficult time
24:13
with laws being enforced i think i’ve
24:16
spoken about this before on a certain
24:18
group of people
24:20
it’s just what what can we there isn’t
24:24
a bias and it’s not fair it’s not
24:26
balanced and it’s going to take
24:29
us a very long time to clean this
24:32
country
24:33
that donald trump populated with a bunch
24:35
of turds
24:36
okay yeah thank goodness that
24:40
um
24:43
merrick garland is in charge of the doj
24:46
i mean but what does he have to do
24:48
there’s so many things it’s like
24:50
honestly this time at this time he can
24:52
prosecute
24:53
for a hate crime and he can’t prosecute
24:56
this had it been bill barr
24:58
still
25:16
well because had this happened a year
25:18
ago oh
25:20
oh oh yeah
25:23
there might not have been anything
25:25
anything more
25:26
and in in georgia still oh
25:30
they might not have done any and then
25:32
eric holder
25:33
a lot of times even though what he did
25:36
in
25:36
um with uh oh what was the
25:40
the town uh in st louis in missouri
25:43
um with the gentleman who they killed
25:47
and
25:47
mike michael michael brown yes
25:50
so the problem is that when we do hold
25:53
positions of power
25:54
as black people or asians
25:58
we over compensate to
26:01
keep to not show favoritism for
26:05
our people well i’m gonna just put it to
26:08
every congress person if anybody ever
26:10
sees it or anybody
26:11
knows somebody who is show favoritism
26:14
for your people
26:15
your people have nobody else because
26:19
most of the people in the senate of
26:22
republicans
26:23
do not represent do not care do not
26:26
even give a damn so we have to stop when
26:30
we get
26:31
into these roles where we go
26:34
uh like obama even at times
26:37
didn’t want to show that he was you know
26:40
showing favoritism
26:41
to the black race they made him feel
26:43
guilty about doing things when we when
26:45
many people needed it the most
26:48
and let me tell you something yes get in
26:50
and show your favoritism for a minute
26:52
because
26:53
it there’s nothing in history that’s
26:54
ever shown where anybody really gave a
26:57
damn
26:57
we we look at every even abe lincoln
27:00
there was always a
27:01
a different agenda and motive for doing
27:03
something it was never from the goodness
27:05
of anybody’s heart
27:06
let’s not fool ourselves and they do it
27:09
too
27:10
i mean they do it they do it too so
27:12
let’s
27:13
let’s catch up with comments because
27:14
they’re flying as usual
27:16
on a saturday night there’s someone
27:17
saturday night than these two ladies
27:19
that rocked the world
27:20
we’re get so real dangle says we’re
27:22
giving works we’re
27:23
excuse giving society we’re an excuse
27:26
giving society
27:27
and then the media piggybacks on it and
27:29
then comes the networks wanting to make
27:31
movies
27:32
out of others misery right black beauty
27:34
says
27:35
they that they love division and racism
27:38
and tr
27:38
45 ism being in denial is not a
27:41
continued
27:42
option right it’s not chris says django
27:45
yes
27:46
excuses for white america it’s
27:47
successing and
27:50
real django says exactly back
27:53
b so this is one thing that we’re gonna
27:56
need to
27:57
one thing we need to do in order to also
28:00
release
28:01
some of this stuff so that we can deal
28:04
with it
28:05
we need to stop talking about the last
28:08
president
28:09
i have never ever seen
28:13
so much news cover oh i know given to a
28:15
previous
28:16
president in my life
28:20
after they’re gone why is trump in the
28:23
news like
28:23
every freaking day unless that man is
28:26
going to jail
28:27
in handcuffs i didn’t want to see
28:30
anything about him
28:31
yeah it’s what they do because they it
28:33
was ratings
28:35
they got the ratings but what they don’t
28:37
know is i’m not watching it that much
28:39
because i don’t want to hear about
28:40
donald trump
28:41
and unless you call and or you’re going
28:43
to tell me something that i go
28:45
okay that’s the end of that um this is
28:47
uh
28:48
this is like you know hopefully in many
28:51
years later down the line
28:53
different generations will treat him the
28:55
way germany
28:56
treats the use of adolf hitler’s name
28:59
and his whole
29:00
everything that he will be a scourge
29:02
seen
29:03
on on white america and every other
29:06
senator with him
29:07
yeah i just feel like it’s if people
29:10
don’t realize they’ve been trying to get
29:12
rid of our votes putting us back
29:14
shooting us you know what next
29:17
but we have to stop inviting them to the
29:19
cookout
29:21
because and become more insular about
29:24
you know about what’s going on until
29:26
they make a stand for it
29:28
because it’s uh what race has not been
29:32
demonized in this country it’s
29:34
self-protection
29:36
all right it is let’s move forward next
29:38
conversation piece
29:40
growing been for the last number of
29:43
years
29:43
even when the previous administration
29:45
the number of migrants arriving at the
29:46
u.s mexico border
29:48
this year is on pace to be the highest
29:50
in 20 years
29:51
ladies how is this going to be handle
29:54
how should it be handled
29:56
i think it needs to be handled in a way
29:58
that you know
30:00
we have to really take a long look at
30:02
what
30:03
is happening in migration of people
30:07
and just with climate change and
30:10
different disruptors that have gone
30:12
on we had the leader of of our country
30:16
the last one who made corruption okay
30:19
and you know how many leaders were grown
30:21
from that like
30:23
when i interviewed um baroness valerie
30:26
amos um who was in charge of
30:30
emergency things in the at the u.n
30:33
she said it was coming along years ago
30:36
dictatorships and different things were
30:38
starting to mobilize them
30:40
but america used to be a beacon of like
30:44
you know this is right we’re gonna set
30:46
things on course
30:47
everything is just like gone to hell in
30:48
a hand basket and everybody i mean look
30:50
at what’s happening in brazil with
30:52
bolsonaro just
30:53
letting people die in the favelas and
30:56
everywhere
30:57
because he doesn’t give a dance and we
30:59
can’t even like help ourselves barely
31:02
to help them people are coming here
31:04
because
31:06
they have the climate has has changed
31:09
they’re scared they also see an
31:12
opportunity
31:13
because biden is in after what trump was
31:16
doing
31:17
and um what can i say it’s something
31:19
that’s not going to go away because
31:22
and we’re going to have to deal with it
31:24
and and how to take care of people’s
31:26
children that’s a very difficult one
31:28
keeping them in cages is not the best
31:30
ideal but what do you do with these kids
31:33
now
31:34
that are here by themselves and
31:37
that’s just uh that’s just where it is i
31:40
don’t know
31:41
i’m sure they’re trying to get their
31:42
head around it but
31:44
and i’m going to give them a minute to
31:45
do it you know it’s like i have to still
31:47
put up with that dejoy in this united
31:49
states post office crap
31:50
because there’s so many things that were
31:53
unraveling and balls dropping
31:55
which one do you run to you know
31:57
spinning plates it’s like oh my god here
31:59
it is here it is
32:01
not a package that’s taking two weeks to
32:02
get to me but obviously
32:05
that is just one fraction of what
32:08
what we got to deal with and i’m sure
32:10
there’ll be a solution
32:12
i’m not tripping the media is tripping
32:14
right now i’m not tripping yet because i
32:16
do believe
32:17
that there are some really smart
32:20
intelligent
32:21
minds there who don’t mean to harm
32:23
anyone and they’ll figure it out
32:26
so i’m not i’m not stressing yet are you
32:29
sure
32:30
i agree i think the media is um
32:34
they’re looking for for biden to fail so
32:37
that they can have
32:38
a bigger news story and juxtapose
32:42
do this whole trump versus biden thing
32:45
because it works for their ratings as we
32:47
said before
32:48
right i agree with jill in the point
32:50
that i’m you know
32:51
give him a chance the one the major
32:53
thing is is that
32:55
he walked into a mess that was 10 times
32:58
worse than what we probably know yeah
33:01
because it would probably float
33:03
right exactly that the last
33:06
administration
33:07
really just screwed everything up okay
33:11
they left a lot of things in a
33:14
a mess as we already know now imagine
33:18
dick
33:18
imagine yeah
33:21
imagine what we don’t know okay so
33:27
yeah when it comes to these children um
33:31
and and the number of of migrants coming
33:36
over of the
33:38
one of the things that we have to deal
33:41
with is that wait a second
33:42
we’re still dealing with the pandemic
33:44
okay
33:45
don’t don’t come because we’re we
33:48
haven’t gotten this part
33:50
under control yet we’re trying to get
33:52
this under control
33:54
and if you come we’re not going to be
33:57
able to control this pandemic
33:59
because we don’t know what is coming
34:02
in okay with you what
34:06
what are you bringing more covet in okay
34:09
so so there’s that there’s that part of
34:13
it
34:13
that they can’t control and the other
34:15
part of it is
34:16
they want to do something on immigration
34:21
you have a stubborn part they have you
34:23
the stubborn part of this sentiment
34:25
that that won’t want to do anything
34:28
because of their racism
34:30
and so i believe they’re going to figure
34:34
it out
34:36
but they had to get past they have to
34:39
do it with the scary part of what trump
34:41
left which was
34:43
the covet don’t forget mexico started to
34:46
work with trump and
34:47
partner tandem on that little nasty
34:51
stuff they had going on and they’re not
34:54
doing on their end of the deal
34:56
it’s pretty obvious the kids are showing
34:58
up they’re not dirty
34:59
they’re all clean it’s almost as if
35:01
somebody put them on a truck
35:02
stole them and drove them there you have
35:04
to determine if that’s what happened
35:07
how did they get here whose kids are
35:08
these so basically
35:11
it’s a strategy uh that’s coming from
35:14
something to yet again impact it could
35:17
still be old vladimir putin
35:19
you know we let’s just be honest and if
35:22
you want to get to the bottom of it
35:23
you it takes a minute to adjust i
35:25
remember when not to relate
35:27
kids to cats but i lived in a place and
35:30
all of a sudden i had one cat
35:32
two cats three cats from the
35:34
neighborhood 15
35:36
20 cats in the house at one point um
35:39
that was that was a lot i tried and then
35:42
try to get them homes and all this and
35:44
it just kind of piled up until i
35:45
realized
35:46
okay this is what’s happening over here
35:48
and you you
35:49
you you can’t be so reactionary but you
35:52
do the best
35:53
damn that you can you know and and as
35:56
long as it doesn’t become an
35:58
uh this inevit this thing where the kids
36:00
are like sleeping there forever
36:02
the reality here is that is one of
36:05
trump’s biggest like
36:06
pain he really is angry about that still
36:09
and he still has friends who probably
36:11
facilitate
36:12
bringing in all these little kids first
36:15
of all we never these could be the same
36:16
kids that came the first time that they
36:18
got rid of and sent back we don’t
36:20
freaking know i mean let’s just be
36:22
honest there were still 700 kids
36:24
and 700 women that were never located
36:28
we do not know this is a mess
36:32
so whatever they have to do they have to
36:34
do they can’t
36:35
chip them so they would know further but
36:38
but
36:38
think about it even in depth like are
36:40
you sure these aren’t the same kids that
36:42
they said they lost
36:43
but now somebody’s bringing them back
36:45
around we don’t know
36:46
we don’t know anything the most we can
36:48
do
36:50
is to try to take care of them the best
36:52
that we can
36:53
and to make sure they’re not going back
36:55
to something horrendous or heinous
36:57
because there are also mothers who are
36:58
making you know
37:00
similar choices like sophie’s choice
37:03
where they’re determining
37:04
take my kid take this one kid who may
37:06
have an opportunity
37:08
there’s a lot to unpack on this but
37:11
right now
37:12
you’ve got to deal with the pandemic and
37:13
the kids and their wellness
37:15
no matter whose kids they are you just
37:17
have to deal with it
37:18
we they haven’t even been able to dig
37:20
deep into the officers
37:22
that were molesting the other kids i
37:24
mean there’s a lot
37:26
that we have said trump [ __ ] down the
37:29
nation
37:30
and now we’ve got to sift through
37:32
everybody who’s going to come up
37:34
with a actual with an actual
37:38
claim because that’s the next thing
37:39
they’re going to be some lawsuits honey
37:41
yeah
37:41
big ones okay and what we know at this
37:44
though
37:45
what we know at this though is that
37:47
biden’s going to put the right people in
37:49
charge
37:50
he’s going to put people who will
37:52
actually do the job
37:54
we also know that on biden’s
37:57
watch it’s not to be a permanent
38:02
permanent thing right trump intended for
38:05
kids to be in cages
38:07
to be permanent okay and buying solution
38:10
is not
38:11
to just throw up a wall and remove their
38:13
ovaries
38:14
i mean that was that was that was their
38:17
their their thing
38:18
was meant to be cruel
38:22
and and to inflict as much pain as
38:24
possible
38:25
because they thought pain would be a
38:26
deterrent
38:28
buying solution is to figure out how to
38:31
get
38:32
these people citizenship the best way
38:35
they can
38:36
let me catch up on some comments here uh
38:40
okay i’ll do some for this and then some
38:43
comments left over from the last so
38:46
we’ve got
38:50
okay let me just check
38:53
okay i gotta being to fix it birdie lynn
38:56
says hello
38:58
and okay then we have
39:04
i don’t know how to do order okay let’s
39:06
clean up some comments from the last
39:08
conversation topic so i will
39:11
take it here with chris
39:16
thankfully there are a number of people
39:17
of color
39:19
including women who are in positions
39:20
where they can truly affect real change
39:23
they all need to jump jump jump to it if
39:26
not and republicans regain control
39:29
we are all doomed absolutely he also
39:31
says i know my last comment on the prior
39:34
subject
39:35
on the day of the massacre in georgia a
39:37
woman i work closely with
39:38
who is from vietnam received u.s
39:40
citizenship
39:43
now we have okay we also have
39:48
good analogy jail re the cats you are
39:51
and you’re right too many unknown
39:52
variables at our southern border
39:55
okay we also have
39:58
someone saying america the great says
40:01
obama was the start of all the madness
40:03
on the border
40:05
no they also they also say why do you
40:07
always blame 45 for everything when you
40:09
know obama started all that madness on
40:11
the border
40:12
you’re wrong you’re absolutely wrong so
40:15
go stuff
40:15
yourself okay you’re wrong so then we
40:18
got
40:19
uh tamara mccauley people started it
40:23
i think the presidency is no different
40:24
than any type of company that
40:26
experiences a new ceo coming in
40:29
well that’s but you know that comment is
40:31
um interesting though
40:33
because remember people thought that
40:37
because it was like running a business
40:39
that’s why they thought trump would be
40:40
good at it
40:42
right which is ludicrous he can’t even
40:43
run he can’t even choose
40:45
okay so next up imagine what president
40:48
biden has to do figure out determine the
40:51
next steps identify a resolution and
40:53
then resolve the problem
40:56
exactly next up also saying this will
40:59
take longer than four years to clean up
41:01
this mess
41:02
i agree wow the comments are flying
41:05
tonight america the great says
41:07
obama was one who put up those children
41:09
and those camps
41:11
what the blank are you talking about it
41:13
was a temporary hold
41:15
let me tell you something because i was
41:17
there
41:18
okay you don’t know what i do on my off
41:21
time so let me tell you something
41:22
that was a three day 72 hour it was
41:25
efficient
41:26
the turnaround time they located the
41:28
parents this whole new vibe that came
41:30
into it
41:31
let me tell you something when you can
41:34
tell me where
41:34
700 women went they were some were
41:37
disabled
41:39
some were um were older
41:42
it was like what trump did let me
41:46
don’t even start don’t even start i have
41:49
friends
41:49
who even live in texas and have spoken
41:52
in about
41:53
some stuff they’ve seen and you would be
41:55
horrified
41:57
okay you and yourself let’s go here
41:59
black beauty jill presents a good point
42:02
that children look too well clean not
42:04
even worried considering that they’ve
42:05
made a journey alone something’s
42:07
fishy about it okay
42:11
and then remember they started off with
42:13
3 500 kids
42:15
that they couldn’t find parents for
42:17
right and all of those
42:18
kids um were kids that they tried to
42:21
place in foster care
42:23
they were they were temporarily placed
42:27
do the math and they never kept track of
42:30
them
42:31
friend of the show dr tatchis
42:36
let me get it right dr tachi host of the
42:39
livest online conversation about media
42:42
tech and pop culture
42:44
it’s called mediascope and it is
42:47
on on wednesdays uh five o’clock
42:51
p.m eastern time they go on ig live
42:55
and then at six o’clock they go on
42:57
periscope for
42:58
maybe another 11 days live they go
43:02
facebook live i know they go linkedin
43:04
live
43:05
i don’t know if they go any other
43:07
platforms but
43:08
that’s it oh and also clubhouse they
43:10
also go on clubhouse live
43:12
so let’s continue on with our next
43:15
conversation piece
43:17
we have here and more comments are still
43:20
flying in so
43:21
let’s get to the next conversation piece
43:23
here america’s counted 100 million covet
43:27
vox indoors
43:28
doses administered 59 days into biden’s
43:32
first 100 days
43:33
ladies your thoughts excellent
43:37
excellent here’s here’s just uh
43:41
one thing not to control off aisha i
43:42
love you very much um
43:45
this this is what i’m telling you i’ve
43:48
been saying it from day one
43:50
people who put their money where their
43:52
mouths are and their word and give you
43:54
their word
43:56
when they give it you can believe it
44:01
with this we were just talking about the
44:03
border and different things about biden
44:05
and all this stuff
44:07
i believe he’s a man who doesn’t
44:10
say his word until he knows the scope
44:14
before he gives his word i had a
44:16
stepfather the same way
44:17
but one thing i always knew i could
44:20
count on him
44:21
because when he gave his word it was
44:23
solid it was well thought out it was
44:26
very planned i feel like and then
44:29
so efficient that the it just works it
44:32
just all comes together
44:34
that’s what good planning does that’s
44:36
with somebody who is thoughtful about
44:38
what comes out of their mouth we had the
44:40
opposite for about
44:42
four or five years and i don’t buy
44:44
charlatans like that and you know
44:46
grifters along the way
44:48
i think that he put his money where his
44:50
mouth was he said he would do this
44:52
and what happened is it just created
44:54
this really
44:56
amazing uh so invigorated
45:00
people again to be like i want to live
45:02
my life again and i want to get i’ll get
45:04
this monkey off my back
45:06
i want to be productive it started to
45:09
hand the reins back into people’s hands
45:12
of like do you want to see
45:14
your life continue in this hell hole or
45:17
are we all going to try to come together
45:18
and i think for the most part
45:20
he pulled together ordering more
45:23
vaccines my god we found out there was
45:25
there were no there were no vaccines
45:28
it’s like what the hell was trump doing
45:31
what
45:31
was he doing girl what was he doing
45:35
there was nothing there it’s like the
45:37
cupboard was bare honey
45:39
and he had you know you don’t know until
45:42
you walk into it
45:44
and you find out like this that’s
45:47
my point he basically
45:50
made this happen and he did it in that’s
45:52
a scorpio for you
45:54
i’m telling you scorpios tight lips when
45:56
they make a decision and they make a
45:58
move
45:59
they make it and you just sit back and
46:01
it it gets done
46:03
they will make it get done i ain’t
46:05
hating on that knew
46:07
you know because trump had this all
46:10
whittling away here i thought it was
46:11
going to have to be carving wood out of
46:13
pencils and you know
46:14
i’m just i’m just happy that you
46:16
produced so much because we’re getting
46:18
some of your excess
46:19
in canada so thank you america for
46:22
giving us some
46:23
but that’s what that’s what friends do
46:25
and it’s like
46:26
learning to be a human being again you
46:29
know
46:30
it’s called like are you human or are
46:32
you
46:33
not i mean i don’t know what we were
46:35
over the past four years but it was
46:37
really uh deplorable and
46:40
she called it and she’s and and and
46:43
and it was true yeah and you know
46:47
for me it was like like i was telling
46:49
you guys before the um show started
46:51
i went to go get my vaccine today and
46:54
um they did so many
46:58
that i couldn’t get a vaccine today
47:01
because they ran
47:02
out um
47:05
and it it’s just the fact that he did it
47:09
in l in half the time that he
47:12
gave himself 100 no 100 shots
47:17
in a hundred days he did it in 59
47:20
is is amazing but it is but the other
47:24
part of it too
47:25
was that he got people excited about
47:28
doing it
47:29
yeah okay so he he got the buy-in of the
47:32
people
47:33
because he he got the right people out
47:36
there
47:37
he said we’re going to do this with the
47:39
right people in place
47:41
he’d let the scientists talk yeah it was
47:44
he made sure it wasn’t about him and
47:47
that
47:47
he that he was the end all know all who
47:50
knew
47:51
you know he he admitted i don’t know
47:53
everything’s i’m not a scientist
47:55
here are the scientists here are the
47:57
doctors and then he made sure
47:59
he got all the people to support him by
48:02
making sure
48:03
people got the vaccine and showed you
48:06
look it’s not that bad
48:08
go get it and then word of mouth people
48:11
that people got the vaccine because
48:12
here’s the thing people
48:14
are tired of not seeing people
48:18
right you know i it’s like
48:21
i just moved and realized my my outlets
48:25
two floors down
48:26
i haven’t seen my eye in like a year and
48:29
a half
48:30
right and i went to she’s been
48:32
vaccinated i went to visit her
48:35
yeah the other day and i was like oh my
48:38
gosh
48:38
and sat there and my daughter and i were
48:41
talking we’re like
48:43
that just felt so good to be able to see
48:46
a relative
48:47
well that wasn’t people have been alone
48:50
they’ve been so alone and then you got
48:51
these weirdos
48:53
you know with this thinking you know
48:55
that uh
48:56
cue anonymous crap and all that that
48:58
comes from just
48:59
being idle i don’t minds devil’s
49:02
workshop
49:03
uh people ain’t got nothing to do but to
49:05
obsess on themselves get paranoid freaky
49:08
you know and now it’s coming back where
49:11
you know i told you guys when i went
49:12
shopping the other week and it was like
49:14
being in the movie cocoon
49:15
there were so many like older people
49:17
because we also
49:18
became a really callous society that
49:21
was so ageist didn’t care about older
49:24
people
49:25
it’s pretty disgusting it’s just
49:27
disgusting we should all
49:28
hope we live as long as like a joe biden
49:32
or even any of anyone in this day and
49:34
age because we do know that
49:36
white males in america their life
49:38
expectancy has really diminished
49:41
in fact most americans life expectancy
49:43
has gone down
49:45
um so uh and all that comes from hey
49:49
hate hate when you have more love in
49:52
your heart
49:53
you do a lot better in the world and in
49:55
life but you know for me
49:57
i i love that he is a man who puts his
50:00
money where his mouth is
50:02
and doesn’t just jibber jabber chit chat
50:05
nonsense i mean i’m not but i’ve never
50:08
gone for men who
50:09
are like that in my life i mean i you
50:12
know
50:13
you wouldn’t hear prince just going
50:14
chippy cheepy chippy church chirp chirp
50:16
no when things were said they were clear
50:19
they made us
50:20
boom boom boom and i am very much
50:23
in tune with people who do that i ain’t
50:25
got time for anybody else and they’re
50:27
you know chit chat jabber that’s why i
50:29
never could vibe with
50:30
like trump’s thing i just don’t vibe
50:32
with that
50:34
at all and now you can start to see this
50:35
sabotage because
50:37
for example you have um who’s the
50:40
governor of florida desantis
50:43
all the kids all the kids who are now in
50:46
um
50:47
florida during spring break yeah have
50:50
you seen the videos
50:51
no i didn’t he has not once tried
50:54
to help the national
50:58
um call you know the national call for
51:01
people
51:01
where your mass distance et cetera et
51:03
cetera you never did
51:05
he never did he never did he’s making
51:07
the problem worse but
51:09
guess what spring break in florida it’s
51:11
like spring break in florida
51:12
2020 2019 2018 and every year before it
51:16
because the videos now show all the kids
51:19
my daughter’s age your daughter’s age
51:22
out there in big crowds congregating
51:25
together having fun no math
51:27
no social distancing bodies all over
51:30
each other the good thing is my
51:31
daughter’s not a [ __ ] and neither is
51:33
yours so they can
51:34
they can you know i i’ve never condoned
51:38
that whole
51:39
collegiate mentality in america it’s
51:42
to me it’s just not my you know anyway
51:45
you ain’t gonna see too many like people
51:47
of color out there on the beach so
51:48
that’s a lot of
51:50
work like i said
51:53
well then i then i rest my then i
51:56
apologize
51:57
i don’t have a [ __ ] for a child and
51:59
neither do you um
52:00
i think that that it is not about them
52:04
the young people here are incredibly
52:07
selfish and entitled and that that
52:09
that’s just american kids they’re
52:11
yeah pretty pretty entitled brats
52:14
okay so in general though happy with the
52:18
progress
52:18
in regards to the vaccine yeah excellent
52:22
okay i’m just just want to catch up here
52:27
uh real dango saying people want to live
52:30
i’m going to get the vaccine as soon as
52:32
possible
52:33
chris is saying the last four years a
52:35
true zombie apocalypse
52:38
i for the only one that only raised the
52:40
feeling back to the back to life after
52:43
45 sour horror show
52:45
yeah uh oh well never mind poof
52:50
uh then tamara goes we now have a
52:52
president who puts pete the people first
52:54
so drastic change when you think of
52:55
what we had previously thank god django
52:59
is saying exactly tamara and
53:02
we are up to date so
53:05
let’s move on to our next conversation
53:07
this has been a lively saturday night
53:09
for a number of reasons
53:11
so let’s talk about
53:14
biden white house sandbag staffers sign
53:17
lines
53:17
dozens for pot use right
53:22
let’s talk well
53:25
okay so you guys know that i told you
53:28
guys once that i had a friend who ended
53:29
up
53:30
going and working at homeland security
53:32
and then
53:33
went and now works for ted cruz uh
53:36
not really much of my friend not my
53:38
friend anymore because i
53:39
i cover i finished that finito but
53:43
um they have these questions that you
53:46
get
53:46
asked in uh when you take these jobs i
53:50
guess for clearances
53:52
so i’m not entirely sure about this
53:54
whole story
53:56
but i do know that isn’t it still
53:59
considered
54:00
illegal in dc i mean that’s where it’s
54:03
kind of messing me up on this because
54:05
when when they ask you these clearance
54:08
questions they ask you things like
54:10
um have you ever cheated on your spouse
54:12
and they ask your spouse too
54:15
like and it’s okay to be a hundred
54:17
percent
54:18
open about everything you’ve ever done
54:21
and the reason that they have to do it
54:23
is so that nobody can
54:24
ever it’s to get rid of um where you can
54:28
be leveraged it’s like at least they
54:30
know
54:30
out of the gate what they’re dealing
54:32
with with you were you an alcoholic
54:34
yeah i was actually in college or
54:36
whatever so they they
54:38
tend to that’s when you get certain
54:40
clearances and then they determine who
54:42
gets whatever
54:43
so i don’t know why he he did it you
54:46
know
54:47
on that note he could also be like you
54:50
know my grandmother would have never
54:52
ever no matter what you said to say that
54:55
pop was okay i mean she once told my
54:57
cousin paul he was like gonna die from
55:00
drinking weed
55:01
or smoking weed so i i don’t know i mean
55:05
it’s very tricky i don’t know enough
55:07
about
55:08
about the reason behind it i think it
55:12
has something to do with the clearances
55:14
i’m not that’s just stuff and maybe i’m
55:16
not supposed to know everything
55:17
i don’t know this this is coming from
55:19
the daily beast and
55:21
everybody wants to get their knickers
55:22
and twist all the time i don’t know
55:24
i really don’t know what to say aisha
55:28
i’m wondering if it’s because they lied
55:32
maybe and biden said he wouldn’t
55:34
tolerate
55:35
lying yeah he got rid of the other dude
55:38
who lied
55:38
yeah yes and you know
55:42
he did if they were open about it
55:45
i don’t think that he would have a
55:46
problem see that’s the
55:48
part like if they ask you in your
55:51
clearance
55:52
and you lie and they find out then you
55:54
become a
55:55
problem and that’s how people get
55:57
clearances
55:58
from what i was told like you
56:01
are if you cheated and you say no i
56:04
never cheated on my wife and they find
56:06
out that you got a mistress across town
56:10
that’s brought to you know intelligence
56:13
their
56:13
their uh attention and then you become
56:18
a big question mark it’s a small lie but
56:22
it’s your private life but you could be
56:24
leveraged by
56:25
somebody for whatever because they do
56:28
look into your background
56:30
that’s a that’s a apparently a pretty
56:33
healthy uh stealthy uh
56:36
background check yeah so i think
56:39
i think that it might have more to do
56:42
with
56:42
lying then it would have to do with the
56:46
pot use
56:47
because he worked for someone who
56:50
admitted had admitted pot use
56:52
in his youth right okay
56:56
so overblown story at the moment you
56:59
think
57:00
yeah i think daily beast doesn’t have
57:01
all the facts i agree
57:03
just to put up on the screen cinema
57:06
canelo oh
57:07
yes guys saturday live stream and it’s
57:09
interesting cinnamon i
57:10
she did comment on the last uh replay
57:14
i thought you guys were on fridays so i
57:16
told her oh we’re on saturday
57:18
so good to have you back thank you for
57:21
taking the time
57:22
like everybody here uh i never i as i
57:25
said you never know because
57:26
i never thought saturday nights would be
57:28
so popular
57:30
but saturday nights are rocking with
57:31
aisha and jail like
57:33
now chris has some information here it
57:35
is illegal in dc fine they can bust you
57:37
otherwise
57:38
hmm perhaps president biden is viewing
57:41
reefer madness but i do not think
57:45
i do think it’s being overblown i mean
57:47
let’s be honest he has a son
57:49
that you know had a drug problem there
57:52
could just be
57:53
cheaper things for him and you know like
57:55
i said even
57:57
i mean i still know some of my older
57:59
relatives just
58:00
did not ever come around that it was not
58:03
a gateway drug
58:04
to get you to you know heroin you’ll be
58:07
on
58:08
heroin next week you know um that i
58:11
still had relatives who felt that way
58:12
and i know he
58:13
doesn’t believe that but maybe maybe
58:15
there’s something in the character
58:17
of a people i mean who’s to say but i
58:20
think it has something to do with
58:22
um what aisha said maybe it was
58:25
lying maybe yeah because i think
58:28
he’d be more understanding because of
58:30
his son and it is
58:32
it is illegal and he did stay he already
58:36
said that they would not be they would
58:38
not be fired for
58:40
past use so if he and he’s not one to go
58:44
back on his word like that
58:46
so i think it does have to do
58:49
with something else and also too
58:53
that might be something that they have
58:55
in common but they
58:57
also might have other things you know
59:00
yeah i mean
59:01
that might just happen to be
59:02
circumstantial they also might have
59:04
other things in their background checks
59:07
that came up but let’s be honest like
59:11
if you are saying this is illegal and
59:14
you’re condoning a behavior that is
59:16
illegal
59:18
that wouldn’t really be right either you
59:20
know it just
59:21
isn’t it’s almost like we’ve gotten away
59:23
with things when we go with our own
59:25
morals
59:26
by avoiding those conversations and it
59:28
is a conversation to have but
59:30
when drugs are illegal and you’re
59:33
obtaining them
59:34
maybe the ilk that you come in contact
59:36
with are not always
59:38
above board so maybe the
59:42
you know it’s like once it’s
59:43
legitimately legal
59:45
you walk into the weed store or whatever
59:46
and you get it and it’s like it’s
59:48
you know who knows who knows i have a
59:51
feeling
59:52
he is his administration and everybody
59:55
in it are targets
59:56
for uh trump’s group of people
60:00
who are definitely clandestinely trying
60:02
to
60:03
derail them and i i think that
60:06
maybe you just don’t want to leave any
60:08
gate open in the wind
60:10
you know at this point it’s like let’s
60:11
shut this barn down
60:14
this is what it’s going to be i know it
60:15
doesn’t sound right but right now i’m
60:17
not feeling
60:18
that i want to expose anybody to more
60:21
vulnerability than i have to
60:23
yeah and for some it might be that their
60:26
past use
60:28
is still present and if they’re in dc
60:32
it’s illegal in dc i know it is illegal
60:34
in d.c
60:35
no all right so we’re continuing on with
60:38
the current
60:39
american president his first hundred
60:42
days aren’t over yet and
60:44
people are criticizing him
60:47
yeah is that clear he fell up the stairs
60:51
can they let him be great i mean come on
60:58
you know what’s really crazy is i think
61:00
that uh
61:01
social media has created where people
61:04
are actually
61:04
manifesting their own hell every day
61:08
i decided if the last week i’m not gonna
61:11
like
61:12
get into all of this i i did that with
61:14
trump because i thought
61:16
i i saw his behavior and his works
61:20
for anybody out there who seems to think
61:22
i’m just jumping all over trump hey
61:24
judge the works you know that was that
61:26
was the
61:27
everything that i based everything on
61:29
there was a point where i thought
61:31
trump could really man up and maybe pull
61:33
it together a few people have said that
61:35
politically
61:36
but he didn’t he was a big [ __ ] and he
61:38
turned into this uh
61:40
this evil you know maniacal
61:44
crazy narcissist that he’s always been
61:47
but then with joe biden it’s like it’s
61:50
like i’m not gonna act like that
61:52
broad or that chick who has never been
61:55
touched by a man because we got all beat
61:57
up by
61:58
uh by uh donald trump
62:01
no i’m open to having somebody new i’m
62:04
that kind of person too once i’m done
62:06
i’m done and i’m like
62:07
i’m on to something new and i look
62:09
forward and i give people a chance
62:11
and i think that other people are just
62:14
just curmudgeons they just want to see
62:17
the negative
62:18
and right now i don’t feel like the vibe
62:20
or that we’re on as a
62:22
society civilization i don’t i don’t see
62:25
it getting a lot of traction anymore i
62:27
actually think that
62:28
people are excited to get back with
62:30
their families their friends
62:31
and get their lives back ain’t nobody
62:34
going to be having time to give the
62:35
media this much attention
62:37
and the media is acting like a bunch of
62:39
little whiny
62:40
toddlers because they too want all the
62:42
attention
62:44
so i don’t have time for that i got
62:46
things to do
62:47
yeah i just how do you judge
62:51
the first 100 days at day 59
62:55
answer me that it’s like you still have
62:58
49 days left to go
63:00
judge the first 100 days on day 100
63:04
he got people their money he got it took
63:07
and he tried to do it respectfully and
63:08
let people have their dignity
63:10
but you know what it’s like but let’s
63:13
just see
63:14
that that’s that’s 49 days that doesn’t
63:17
have to be devoted to
63:19
trying to get to the 100 days because he
63:22
already did it
63:23
now it’s just like ramping it up hell
63:26
people everybody might be fully
63:27
vaccinated
63:28
in may you know we don’t know this this
63:31
is really like
63:33
let’s just uh stop looking at things
63:36
always in a negative view but
63:37
you know news and the people that
63:40
respond to it it’s always the negative
63:42
stuff and you know people
63:45
need to focus a little bit on trying to
63:48
see the good we have something good here
63:51
don’t screw it up
63:52
riojango is saying it’s crazy biden’s
63:55
been doing the right things i haven’t
63:56
one complaint chris is saying you’re
63:59
like this i know both of you like this
64:00
so bryden tripped up the stairs
64:02
my god pence couldn’t even hit the floor
64:04
with his hat come on media this is
64:06
actual news
64:08
there’s a there’s actual news out there
64:10
to cover
64:12
you know why the news is looking for
64:14
little things like that
64:15
because when biden got in
64:18
they realized this presidency is so
64:23
boring because it’s actually back us
64:26
having to cover actual things like
64:29
press conferences and people doing
64:33
the work of the government
64:36
and you know debates on the house floor
64:40
in the senate
64:41
and a president that does a press
64:44
conference that’s not
64:45
a reality show that well how did they
64:48
actually doing the job
64:49
they were entertaining him
64:53
right before before their news had
64:57
become
64:58
like um like
65:02
prime time television and they were
65:04
loving it because people were watching
65:06
them
65:07
and not watching scripted tv shows
65:10
because donald trump was being
65:12
a um carnival burke right but you know
65:16
and they don’t have that anymore no i
65:19
mean fox watching fox and all of it is
65:21
like watching
65:22
bad dinner theater you know it’s just
65:24
bad you’re like
65:26
okay and then you have um
65:29
the whole situation with you know
65:31
they’re all kind of fading away a little
65:33
bit
65:34
it’s like they really are like they
65:35
they’re all standing there but they’re
65:37
all
65:37
fading into the woodwork they miss your
65:41
former president
65:43
well they can miss him all they want you
65:45
know they can they don’t matter anymore
65:48
they don’t count
65:48
we voted i heard one of the guys from
65:51
the capitol police talking about
65:52
something today
65:53
on the radio that he said in his combat
65:57
uh against other people he yelled out
66:00
you know they were trying to
66:01
say i’m and there were policemen white
66:04
policemen flashing their badges to him
66:06
like
66:07
it was really intense to hear this young
66:09
man speak about it
66:11
and you know he was like look i voted
66:13
for biden and what’s wrong my vote
66:15
doesn’t count
66:16
i don’t count and it was like those
66:18
people were there for blood
66:19
and they would never get a dr vibe they
66:21
may miss him forever but that’s okay
66:24
that is okay all right let’s go to our
66:28
one second last conversation piece gop
66:31
lawmakers who refuse to honor capital
66:33
cops are accused of fundraising
66:35
off their no votes
66:39
the blue the party of blue lives matter
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not wanting to honor cops
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is rich yeah okay they don’t want to
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support them
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but they want to claim
66:54
they support them whenever something
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comes
66:57
up when the police do something wrong
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that harms
67:01
people of color
67:04
anything to add to that jill um
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there are a lot of things that these
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congressmen and people are doing
67:14
that i i i never knew they were allowed
67:18
to do
67:19
uh in their fundraising and
67:22
it needs to you know like i said
67:26
on that part of it i need to see some
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results change
67:30
i need to see certain laws come up about
67:33
restricting certain funding that they
67:36
can get
67:38
you know i know that they called kanye
67:40
west on the carpet
67:42
because he was fundraising and young
67:45
people
67:45
under the age of 18 were donating money
67:47
to him
67:49
and they will throw him under the bus
67:51
but there are many who have done
67:53
a lot of things as well these people
67:57
are just skirting above the scum and
68:00
it’s really got to stop because all of
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it you know it just
68:05
it there’s a tipping point yet again
68:08
with these
68:09
with these people they are serving
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supposed to serve us and they really
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have
68:16
they don’t feel any any feeling for that
68:19
at all and idiots need to stop voting
68:21
for people that don’t really give a damn
68:23
about you
68:24
you know and judge the behavior and the
68:26
works
68:27
we are in a racist country racism is
68:30
alive
68:31
and they are emboldened they are proud
68:35
of it
68:35
and they want us to know that they are
68:37
here so we got to do stuff about that
68:39
that’s
68:40
number one number one they’re proud of
68:43
it
68:43
they’re not even trying to hide it
68:45
anymore so when the media tries to
68:47
swoop and make these different stories
68:50
it’s nonsense they are
68:51
here and each day there’s
68:54
one who just opens it up even more
68:58
they want us to know that they want us
69:01
gone
69:01
it’s like that movie the omen or
69:03
something get out
69:05
amityville [ __ ] get out that’s what
69:08
they want
69:10
yeah you know what these lawmakers it’s
69:12
like 12 of them
69:14
that um don’t want to do this have me
69:17
side eyeing them because it’s like
69:19
oh so if you don’t want to honor them
69:22
then you must have been helping the
69:23
insurrectionists
69:25
well yeah and i mean look at what they
69:26
did with gavin newsom they’ve been
69:28
coming hard for him
69:29
and we’re supposed to go and vote for
69:31
him in november i’ll be damned if i see
69:33
them
69:34
throw him out because the reality is
69:37
you knuckleheads were out here walking
69:40
around
69:41
with your red hats not wearing a mask
69:44
for for weeks and months and moaning
69:47
that you did you couldn’t
69:48
orange county was disgusting i mean they
69:50
were just
69:51
the abomination of human beings and we
69:54
have a lot of racists in california
69:56
so if you’re thinking of moving it they
69:58
came out the woodwork
69:59
we all knew they were here buried in
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agora buried up and round
70:03
uh past san jose we knew the pockets
70:06
places you don’t go
70:08
but they’re there the biggest thing is
70:11
now look at who’s donating to
70:15
the people these these leaders and there
70:17
are the other races
70:19
money speaks they’re don’t they are
70:21
donating their money to racist
70:23
um motives and legislation and all these
70:27
things i don’t give a damn if governor
70:28
newsom went
70:29
and ate at the french laundry hell out
70:31
of gone too
70:32
nice place but you know what you’re
70:35
gonna drag him for that
70:36
that’s ridiculous this is a person who
70:40
did as the best he could and with the
70:42
tears and everything
70:44
got all messed up not because of him
70:46
i’ll tell you why
70:48
everybody whined and moaned and every
70:50
fake ass person here in los angeles
70:52
la is full of fake people and every
70:55
stupid karen
70:57
oh every karen uh don’t even get me
71:01
started on the women
71:02
let me just say let me just say one
71:04
thing white women
71:06
white women are the fundamental linchpin
71:09
in white supremacy and
71:13
we have to say that they are
71:16
they hold it and as much as they give
71:19
you their platitudes
71:20
speak in our vernacular oh girl hey
71:24
that’s got to stop that almost did me in
71:26
this week
71:27
i won’t go there no we won’t
71:30
but i personally cannot handle
71:34
uh that anymore because they’re a part
71:37
of it and they’re the same ones
71:39
who basically you know didn’t get their
71:42
way to open up their bar
71:44
or whatever yeah and now they want
71:46
neutral gone
71:48
they talked about people like marjorie
71:49
taylor green oh oh
71:51
jill’s gonna get him
71:55
she has we’re not gonna talk about it
71:57
here all right we’re not gonna talk
71:59
about it here
72:00
all right for those who have been
72:03
watching for a bit and those who are
72:05
just started watching we always end off
72:07
a segment with this episode’s cockroach
72:11
this episode’s cockroach goes to a
72:13
gentleman named
72:15
chris roy and mr roy
72:18
criticized a hearing last week intended
72:20
to address discrimination against asian
72:22
americans
72:23
as an attack on free speech he used the
72:27
form to denounce the chinese government
72:29
over the carnivirus pandemic
72:32
right he’s scum
72:36
[Laughter]
72:44
there he is i’m sure
72:47
as soon as he said that his mother’s
72:49
uterus just tripled up
72:51
oh shame you didn’t oh my gosh
72:55
oh you know these people should not be
72:59
in office and let me tell you something
73:01
they they it’s shameful what he said
73:06
particularly when we know that los
73:09
angeles had one of the
73:11
uh 17 people were
73:14
asian people were lynched uh here by a
73:17
gang of white people
73:19
um years back so they know they’re
73:23
calling cards and their dog whistles and
73:25
they say these things
73:26
um that they’re very proud of you know
73:30
it’s bravado it’s they feel very good in
73:33
how they
73:34
they say it yeah
73:37
it’s better for their base it is
73:41
all right well chris that’s looking for
73:44
my cuban he
73:45
healed shoes that is one big cockroach
73:49
yes
73:50
[Laughter]
73:53
hello ladies that is the end to another
73:56
epic conversation you were on fire
73:59
as usual and audience who were alive
74:03
bow to you you’re on fire tonight you
74:06
like
74:06
you’re making saturday nights hot hot
74:09
hot
74:10
i know we even had somebody pop in who
74:12
just like
74:14
he watched the show just to just to be a
74:17
mega [ __ ]
74:19
i know right oh yes
74:22
with haters when haters even tune in to
74:25
watch
74:26
i mean really yes so yeah today honey
74:30
[Laughter]
74:33
i i’m not no no no
74:36
no okay wow the word is getting out even
74:39
the haters
74:40
i’m telling you those twitter feeds are
74:43
going to be a little hot for the next
74:44
little while for you two ladies you know
74:46
saturday night you wasted your time what
74:50
wow hopefully hopefully as we go forward
74:54
we’ll be one of those
74:56
things where people can like they’re
74:57
going out to dinner they’d like check in
74:59
blah blah blah people
75:02
what are alicia and jill saying slap go
75:05
watch that
75:09
well as usually i say thank you so much
75:11
for taking time for
75:12
your positive productive schedules to
75:14
share with us first up jill
75:16
if people want to get in touch with you
75:17
how can they do that
75:19
uh there it is jill d jones at twitter
75:22
there you go aisha staggers
75:28
yep aisha staggers at twitter and oh
75:32
on friday
75:35
i will be presenting at the one plus one
75:38
plus
75:38
one equals three conference
75:42
um honoring prince’s
75:45
controversy 40 diamonds and pearls
75:49
30 the rainbow children 20 anniversaries
75:52
lives
75:52
i’ll be speaking on the rainbow children
75:55
seven ways
75:56
prince um celebrates
75:59
the history black history culture
76:03
and political ideology
76:06
that’s fantastic great news to hear that
76:09
and i am dr vive i’m the host and
76:12
producer of the ordinance dr vive show
76:14
i’m just going to read
76:15
there’s some more comments that are
76:16
coming in here uh there we go
76:18
chris is saying dr vava each and jill
76:22
thank you so much for a great convo you
76:23
are all terrific
76:25
thanks right back to you chris thank you
76:27
so much thanks
76:28
and uh black beauty i wouldn’t trade
76:31
being part of this vibe
76:32
for a steak dinner and wine all right
76:36
well that’s good to hear that is good to
76:38
you it’s dr vive here i’m the host and
76:40
producer of the award-winning doctor
76:42
vibe show
76:43
the home of epic conversations i’m the
76:45
host of epic conversations uh
76:48
2020 podcast news in 2018 innovation
76:51
award winner given out by the canadian
76:52
ethnic media association
76:55
also once a month i host the only online
76:58
conversation
76:59
for dads and fathers in the world that’s
77:00
sponsored by dove men care it’s also
77:02
co-sponsored by
77:04
dad central canada’s national father
77:06
organization also
77:07
i am the board chair for the global food
77:10
and drink initiative
77:12
and its main purpose as a multimedia
77:14
non-for-profit
77:16
is to showcase blacks in the diaspora
77:19
who are involved in food wine and travel
77:21
and
77:22
i’d like to say thank you for the people
77:24
who man made so many comments tonight
77:26
real django
77:27
black beauty chris bernie lin was in for
77:30
a little bit
77:32
uh tamara new person thank you so much
77:34
for joining the conversation
77:36
and if i did not include your name it’s
77:39
my head
77:40
not my heart so as always we’re gonna
77:42
close off of this
77:44
live your life as a dream if you can
77:45
dream it you can make it
77:47
sometimes you have to get smaller to get
77:48
stronger block assumptions and aim
77:51
bigger and better aim higher and wider
77:53
remember love faith and respect and also
77:56
too remember to give yourselves grace
77:58
especially during this time in our
78:00
history giving yourselves grace
78:01
is so very important it looks like we
78:04
sort of have a home here at 9 00 p.m on
78:06
saturday nights folks uh
78:08
it looks like this is where it’s
78:09
happening so
78:11
god bless peace well keep the faith and
78:13
remember to walk good and we’ll see you
78:14
probably
78:15
next saturday 9 00 p.m eastern whether
78:18
you’re watching this live or on the
78:19
replay or listening on the replay
78:21
check us out on the doctor by their
78:23
facebook channel
78:24
or youtube channel and for the last few
78:26
days periscope
78:27
god bless peace well keep the faith and
78:29
walk good
78:41
[Music]
79:33
you
Aisha K. Staggers had her first major publication, an album review, in The New Haven Register while just a sophomore in high school. Another series of reviews published in The Hartford Courant followed. By the time she reached college, Aisha was writing for the literary magazine and interning at a local radio station, ABC-affiliate as a writer in the news department and in the A&R department of an independent record company.
As a graduate student at Fisk University, Aisha asked Dr. Raymond Winbush to chair her thesis because 1) he was one of the most renowned voices in black culture and academia, and 2) he was a Prince fan. His scholarship and guidance led Aisha to an early career as a professor of social sciences and later an administrator in higher education.
Aisha has also served as a director of education and policy research centers and on the staff of legislative commissions. She previously served on the Executive Board of the CT Young Democrats Women’s Caucus, an avid campaigner, and has remained active in politics and public policy.
Jill Jones is our special guest for this conversation. Ms. Jones is an activist, feminist, former collaborator with Paisley Park.
You can find more about Ms. Staggers via:
https://twitter.com/AishaStaggers
You can find out more about Ms. Jones via:
https://twitter.com/jilldjones
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