Chivalry isn’t completely dead. But Benjamin Ritter suggests the convention of men footing the bill for dates might be on its last legs.
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The previous article The Real Cost of Dating: Part 1, suggested that the traditional expectation that men should pay for dates is in dire need of change. Due to this cultural standard I estimated that men who date regularly (twice-weekly) are footing the bill for approximately $12,500 a year. Which begs the question, what does recent research show about the current mindset surrounding the topic, and is it warranted?
Researchers at Chapman University conducted the study, Who Pays for Dates? and found that conventional chivalric norms play a large role in today’s dating environment, with little signs of changing; most men (84 percent) and women (58 percent) reported that men pay for most expenses even after dating for a while (six months), over half (57 percent) of women claim they offer to help pay, but many women (39 percent) admitted they hope men would reject their offers, and even more women (44 percent) were bothered when men expected women to help pay and the majority of men (76 percent) feel guilty when they don’t pick up the tab (D. Fowler, 2013).
… Researchers at Chapman University have found that half of men said they would stop dating a woman who didn’t offer to pay for the date, and that paying for dates is tied to sexual expectations and other negative feelings such as resentment.
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The act of a man providing for women is a tradition that tends to be explained away through two reasons; men make more money than women, and men are supposed to take the lead and provide for women (traditional chivalric practice basically due to the fact that men earned more than women.)
Today, after 50 years of feminism, women earn 93 cents for every dollar men earn at the start of their career, many women (38 percent) are the breadwinners in heterosexual American marriages, and the majority of heterosexual marriages (80 percent) are operating under a shared responsibility for shouldering the financial burden.
It seems that women are closing in on the wage gap, and the traditional reasons that support men bearing the financial burden for dating have all but dissipated. Not only does the conservative cost of approximately $12,500 a year towards dating make an unfair case, there are other consequences we need to consider.
Maybe the cost of dating doesn’t bother certain men or women, or maybe this will continue to be accepted as a “normal” part of gender roles, but Researchers at Chapman University have found that half of men said they would stop dating a woman who didn’t offer to pay for the date, and that paying for dates is tied to sexual expectations and other negative feelings such as resentment.
The traditional expectation that men pay for dates does not come without negative repercussions, and is probably doing more harm than good. Should this outdated practice continue with the decreasing wage gap and movement towards gender equality?
If it’s worth $12,500.00 a year for a man to meet and date the right partner what is it worth to a woman?
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Hi Erin, I’ve read your reply, but more importantly was that statement regarding the wrong end of the horse. I’d left my browser open, and my wife asked why I had called that women a horses arse. I’m laughing, I often speak in metaphors.. but wanted to explain that is not at all what it means. Means that if one is to lead a horse to water, one does not slap it on the arse. It will bolt in its own direction, and you may get kicked. One takes it by the bridle and leads it. Getting it to drink,… Read more »
The big issue of media is reluctance. There are heaps of good stories without funding, Hollywood is a business and largely sticks to what works without straying too much because some movies are $100m and they aren’t prepared to take major risks. Take comic books for example, some of the earlier movies like Tim Burton’s batman were ok, but then they started to get real bad with bad acting, bad dialogue and earned less. Then you get Batman Begins with an awesome director which was a huge risk but paid off well with a trilogy of awesomeness. The 2000’s Daredevil… Read more »
Erin, You said this “I’ve never heard so many men address the issue of ‘equality’ as I’ve heard when it’s comes to the specific issue of dating and men paying. This conversation troubles me for two reasons. The first one being the idea that a person can not pursue the type of relationships they want because other people don’t like that kind of relationship. I will say this again, Benjamin, there is nothing wrong with you not wanting to pay for your dates. You will certainly find women out there who are on board with you. But who are you… Read more »
Here is the thing DJ – I am totally not against people being given more options in how they want to date or manage their relationships. I totally support a culture that is comfortable with women asking men out or initiating if that’s what she wants to do. I am totally for your right to date a woman that feels the same way about money as you do. This is something that’s important to have like-minded values in .I support you or any woman who wishes to have a relationship where you get to define what is respectful treatment of… Read more »
“Your friends are the greatest influences on your perspective and behavior, so keep good company. The lesson from letting go of toxic friendships is this: Choose wisely. Investigate the character of your acquaintances before you call them friends. Acquaintances are people you know, and friends are people who grow”. – See more at: https://goodmenproject.com/ethics-values/now-this-is-the-graceful-way-to-end-a-toxic-friendship-fiff/#sthash.CjmdRyxF.dpuf
Taking a quore from an article that just came out on TGMP.
I believe that you can apply this philosophy to dating too.
Angelguy
“The latest research has shown that about 20% of men and a little lower for women attach sexual expectations or acts based on a financial investment (a man paying for a date) (this is a very large concern of mine), and that some men build resentment towards women when they have to pay for a date. Now, this is also just my opinion but I also believe that an unfair expectation for men to pay for dates has stunted the women equality movement and the perception of women as a whole”. Benjamin: I think this has always been there, underneath… Read more »
“The women’s equality movement, are you talking about Feminism? Because Feminism doesn’t have the same meaning as it used to. There are many women who are rejecting the modern meaning, and trying to develop their own standard of equality.” I’m not sure how many women are rejecting “feminism’. Although I certainly thing that the idea of what Feminism is evolves with the times, as it should. I do think that women still face a crazy amount of sexism in our culture and they don’t always feel like men are supporting them or respecting them. Men still control the vast majority… Read more »
@ Erin “I’m not sure how many women are rejecting “feminism’. Although I certainly thing that the idea of what Feminism is evolves with the times, as it should. I do think that women still face a crazy amount of sexism in our culture and they don’t always feel like men are supporting them or respecting them.” What I mean is, Feminism has become very splintered. There are some that practice a sort of Misandry, that doesn’t reflect Equality, but superiority. The Misandry is what the younger women are rejecting. Unfortunately, there is a lot of misinformation about this. Do… Read more »
“The Misandry is what the younger women are rejecting.” I do not believe that misandry or misogyny, knows age barriers. Believing that older women are some how more misanderist over younger women is rather prejudice onto itself and suggests that you hold unfavorable opinions about older women over younger. Which makes me question if agism isn’t at play in this conversation. Unfortunately for women, they live in a world that teaches them the same concepts about their worth that it teaches men. For example, the sheer fact that women’s magazines objectify women’s bodies, even if in slightly different ways, from… Read more »
“I just don’t think men truly are supporting women when the only things men care about having ‘equality’ on (whatever that means to an individual person) is about the things that he believes negatively affect him and his personal situation.” Another crass generalization. I voted specifically for a party who had good policies on women’s rights, anti-DV and anti-sexual violence, abortion rights, parental leave (both genders benefit bigtime) and truly egalitarian measures. So I, a man, care about having equality on more than you realize. “Like I said earlier, it’s evident by men’s media (video games, porn, movies, lad-mags, pro-sports)… Read more »
“Another crass generalization…” Yeah. That’s it. I’m so ‘crass’ and that must make you so refined and elegant and superior. This is why I simply don’t respect you as a conversationalists. You believe you are entitled to attack people and then act like you’re superior for it. All because you disagree with what someone has to say. You spend half your time on this board making all the generalizations that please your heart and then you spend the other half attacking generalizations when it doesn’t suit your personal agenda. We get it Archy, *you* are single-handedly entitled to make generalizations… Read more »
Erin You are clever! “….today women are also expected to have careers, jobs and money. Today’s women are paying for the ‘cave’ as much as men are since most families are duel incomes. We are also expected to modify our bodies to the popular trends in porn, keep our bodies really fit to compete with all that porn and Maxim mags our husbands are looking at of 20 year old girls. We are expected to bang like pornstars instead of being our real selves. But don’t complain if he’s looking at othe women or porn, that just makes you a… Read more »
Thanks Silke. I do my best to be as sincere, open and honest as I can.
I’ve never heard so many men address the issue of ‘equality’ as I’ve heard when it’s comes to the specific issue of dating and men paying. This conversation troubles me for two reasons. The first one being the idea that a person can not pursue the type of relationships they want because other people don’t like that kind of relationship. I will say this again, Benjamin, there is nothing wrong with you not wanting to pay for your dates. You will certainly find women out there who are on board with you. But who are you to say that this… Read more »
“When a man pays for a date with me, I don’t feel disrespected and I don’t feel he is treating with inequality.” Why would you? He is the one working extra to pay for you, you get free stuff. “What also troubles me about this conversation is that I don’t truly believe this is a sincere desire for ‘equality’, I find some of the reasoning for wanting women to pay for dates manipulative. It seems that ‘equality’ is simply being used as a means for women to have no expectations of men in dating.” It’s no surprise you don’t believe… Read more »
“Most humans do not like selfish users, most people do not like unequal partnerships, however that is what chivalry calls for. It had a place back when women couldn’t earn their own money so she traded her companionship for being taken care of, but these days it has no place. Men who want equality do not want a woman to get special treatment when he doesn’t get special treatment from her, and many men are being turned off to the idea of gendered treatment even if it’s in equal proportions.”
I couldn’t have said this better myself.
Angelguy
“Why would you? He is the one working extra to pay for you, you get free stuff. “ And this is why I have little respect for the way you choose to handle conversations Archy. I spend a heck of a lot money when I date to look nice that men do not have to do (Because if I didn’t, they wouldn’t want to date me.) You have no concept of what things cost for women and blindly suggesting that women should all shop at target solves everything and that hair and nails can be reasonable, is not realistic. I… Read more »
Angelguy – relationships are fluid and impacted by social changes, hence why this conversation is even happening. The quote you have above was referring to the other consequences that are related to men paying for dates. The latest research has shown that about 20% of men and a little lower for women attach sexual expectations or acts based on a financial investment (a man paying for a date) (this is a very large concern of mine), and that some men build resentment towards women when they have to pay for a date. Now, this is also just my opinion but… Read more »
“It seems that women are closing in on the wage gap, and the traditional reasons that support men bearing the financial burden for dating have all but dissipated. Not only does the conservative cost of approximately $12,500 a year towards dating make an unfair case, there are other consequences we need to consider.” Benjamin: I would like to hear what kind of consequences one should consider if things were to change. Would the expectations of dating change if things were more equal? To me, I find that the relationship between the sexes is undergoing a social change, especially with the… Read more »
Exactly what the conversation is about, AGl: Dropping sexist expectation and replacing that with individual choice. In order to do so the old expectation has to be shattered.
We are quite practiced at the latter. We’ve had 50 years practice. All we have to do is apply it.
I”ve commented quite a bit tonight on the first of this series, and I hope that women read it and perhaps gain a better understanding of how destructive “men must pay” is, as well as well as many of the myths of chivalry. No excuses for the ladies. This is the world they wanted, this is the world we men acquiesced for them. One does not dance to the music and expect someone else, someone with a penis to pay the piper. Does not work anymore, not for us so stop it. LOL That being said, geez louise, Boris. I’ve… Read more »
“No excuses for the ladies. This is the world they wanted, this is the world we men acquiesced for them.” I wouldn’t say that men “acquiesced” to women’s equality. Women had to fight hard for it. Even today, it doesn’t seem like a lot of men have accepted women’s equality without ‘protest’. Infact, as women gain more equality in the world, I see more anger, hate and vitorl dished out to women in men’s media and online. Just look at how abusive porn has grown toward women. Men are still angry at women and taking it out on us through… Read more »
“I have no issue with you choosing women who align with your way of thinking. Why do you have issues with people who may pursue more traditional relationships?” Because you will probably teach your kids to prefer traditional relationships willingly or not, and help reinforce the number who like traditional relationships. The problem of the traditional relationship is that in order for it to work, it requires an unequal society. Men cannot earn the same as a woman in a traditional relationship, she will inherently want a man to earn more and hypergamy pops up. In today’s economy single women… Read more »
Lol Archy, of course I would teach my children about traditional relationships. Just like I will teach them to believe in God or to limit their consumption of red meat. That’s the perk of having children. You teach them your values. And no, traditional relationships does not equal inequality. Just like the fact that just because women physically birth and carry babies in their tummies, doesn’t mean Fathers are less important to a family dynamic. The feminine and masculine are equal. But they are not the same. It also doesn’t mean that he has to earn more or spend ridiculous… Read more »
Hi Archy You ask ” why can’t men be given money to?”. I am surprised you know so little about facts about committed relationships Archy. Do you know how many women that work and pay all the expenses for their husbands education , helping his through long expensive educations while they themselves have no education? I know plenty of those women. Do you have any idea how many women pay their partners debt, their loans ? My mother mother worked and earned money from she was 14 years old until she was 67 , and she paid her husband debts… Read more »
There is currently a trend that men should ask and pay for the first date. Problem with that format is they forget about the second. What happens after that? If we are going to format dating (which, with my experience interacting with men and women today, may be needed as no one has a clue these days), then go with a viable format. Man asks, man pays for the first date. Manliness is saved, the hunter lives. Women ask and pay for the second. Does a number of things. Yes, it maintains that apparent desire for men to pursue and… Read more »
Don’t you think individual women should decide for themselves what makes them feel empowered? You assume that the same things empower all women. That just isn’t the case. Also, a woman doesn’t have to ‘man-up’ to ask a man out. Are men looking to honestly date more masculine women anyway? This is what troubles me. There is this insidious little germ of an idea in our society that feminine traits = bad and masculine traits = good. (Such as ‘all emotion = bad’ but ‘logic = always good’ or how women in the business world are negatively stereotyped as being… Read more »
“It’s very important to stay positive about women and relationships; The article is supposed to highlight that there is a cost to dating and relationships, provide the research that supports that issue (there are multiple other sources), and ask the question, is there a better way (because there is).” I think that is a very important point, staying positive when you are not in a relationship, or dating for that matter. No woman wants someone who is miserable, and vice versa goes for us Men as well. Being discriminating is more important now than it ever was before. As Men,… Read more »
I think that this comes down to personal wants and desires for your relationship. Like with anything else that becomes a factor in a relationship. Some people choose to be monogamous, other people don’t. Some people think it’s important that their partners are just as physically fit as they are so they can hike, run or bike together. Some people are vegans who only want to date vegans (Indicated by another GMP article.) Some people have separate banking accounts once married, other people share them. Some men and women will be happy to go dutch and other men and women… Read more »
Woops! Sorry Angel Guy! My post above wasn’t directed to you specifically. It was a response to the article. But I did want you to know that I think what you said above is a really healthy attitude and I’ve been doing the same thing. Working on myself and not forcing the dating thing.
No problem Erin. I kind of figured that after reading some of your post
Thanks for the compliment, I do appreciate your comment.
I think sometimes the dating thing get forced on us, whether we are conscious of it or not.
Society puts pressure on Men and Women to get together, usually through advertising, which is both unrealistic and outdated.
Once one recognizes that, then they can deal with what is real life, not the idealized world that keeps getting feed to us.
Angelguy
I agree. I think there is a lot of social messages out there that tells men and women they are missing out on something other people are enjoying if they aren’t out there dating and mating 24/7. The truth is, the majority of my dates where not nearly as exciting as advertising and media would say they were. It’s hard to find someone you’re truly excited about, that treats you the way you want to be treated and vice versa. Which is why it’s so special when you do find that person.
Nearly all humans have an inherit instinct for dating. People ARE missing out on amazing experiences when single. Some people like being single for a while but most people cannot stand it for too long. Without that instinct, our species would have never made it this far. Japan is finding out really hard what it is like when people aren’t dating and mating enough, a massively aging population that is at a crisis point.
@Erin “The truth is, the majority of my dates where not nearly as exciting as advertising and media would say they were. It’s hard to find someone you’re truly excited about, that treats you the way you want to be treated and vice versa. Which is why it’s so special when you do find that person.” Erin: This is part of the problem, right there. Dating is not that exciting after a while. When you have done it so many times, it can lead to disappointment and frustration. People ARE missing out on amazing experiences when single. Some people like… Read more »
“This is part of the problem, right there. Dating is not that exciting after a while. When you have done it so many times, it can lead to disappointment and frustration.” I don’t totally agree with your statement here. I am not someone that’s dated a ton of guys. I remember my very first couple of dates and they were not that exciting. I was excited for them before they happened, but the actual date itself, most of the time, was not exciting. That doesn’t even get into the semantics of how people treat you on dates and the likes… Read more »
“the promise of dating was actually a lot more exciting then the actual dates even in my early stages of dating. I do think the media sells people the lie that if they aren’t out there dating and sleeping with lots of people, they are missing out on so much that other people have.” Yeah, I can agree with some of that. Most of the time, it is hormones. From a guys point of view, when you have asked a lot of “first” dates, you are always planning everything in advance. The woman is the one that reacts to that,… Read more »
Okay. I agree with that.
Women want an ’emotional’ relationship – men want stability and predictability, and a life without drama.
Ask any man that has gone through a divorce if he would have paid 6 k for an OFF SWITCH
You are staring at the horse buggy / car revolution for dating, marriage and sex (If a woman in England can marry a tree, you know it is only a matter of time before a robot is at the end of the wedding aisle)
You are looking at the last generation where marriage matters or is relevant
Let’s hope you will live happy ever after with your robot Boris.
In fact , the idea does not upset me at all,
No more need for porn , no more need for prostitutes !
Just a harem of robots to each man and everybody will be happy.
The men left that wants human connection, emotional closeness and the magic of love will be highly praised arms sought after by those women that want the same ( I guess the Japanees produce robots for women as well?)
I say like Jules ” I want the real thing” or celibacy .
Typo , my iPad is difficult.
“Will be highly praised and sought after…”
I would buy one of those robots. A decade+ of rejection starts to wear thin on patience. I can’t remember what a kiss feels like, nor what cuddling feels like. Valentines day, Xmas day are like bullets to the heart. If I could get a warm “sex” robot I would, at least then I would get some intimacy and comfort, sex, vs sleeping alone. No more leading on, no more hopes raised and then the cold fades because some woman is too cowardly to say she has lost interest. People say they want celibacy but trust me, for many people… Read more »
Archy your emotional honesty makes you a gem.
I do not understand why women do not find you.
You got it all!
I see nothing wrong with robots, and we all need others. We surround ourselves with cats,dogs,friends ,and if we are lucky we also have a partner we love. Too many people are alone and it is not good in the long run.
It is about time fate send a good woman into your life. I am certain you will be a fantasic partner( or husband if that if what you want).
Thank-you. Fate and I aren’t on speaking terms 😛
I think most people would go for a real partner, but robots have the potential to be life-saving companionship for many people who are cursed with extremely bad looks, or extremely poor social skills that can’t be fixed so to speak. It even has the potential to be a confidence booster to men who are extremely shy depending on how realistic the technology gets. If A.I comes into the mix, there is the potential for real love too if it’s a truly free A.I and not simply programmed to obey.
“If it’s worth $12,500.00 a year for a man to meet and date the right partner what is it worth to a woman?” I think this number is pure bullshit. No way in hell are you going to convince me the average adult single male spends $1,000 a month dating. Real $$$$? Hell no. The average adult single male in America does not have that kind of free cash flow on a monthly basis. Only men who are in the top 20% of the income strata can spend this kind of money dating. If I ask a woman out, I… Read more »
I didn’t want to say it before but I’m beginning to think all women care about is money. Love is basically dead.
@ J Walter, “I didn’t want to say it before but I’m beginning to think all women care about is money.” Then I would say you are hanging around the wrong women. Women do value financial security more so than men. Safety and security have always been extremely important to women. You have to look at the big picture in America. We have a very narcissistic culture today. That culture permeates every aspect of our society. We see it in the media, social media, family, even our churches! Character and values matter less and less. The worship of self and… Read more »
It’s very important to stay positive about women and relationships; The article is supposed to highlight that there is a cost to dating and relationships, provide the research that supports that issue (there are multiple other sources), and ask the question, is there a better way (because there is). Love is alive and well, but the traditional mainstream advice may be steering you wrong. Check out the Suave Lover podcast on itunes or soundcloud if you want to hear more direct advice on personal development, dating and relationships.
High end sex bots out of Japan, with first gen emotic AI are running about 6 k, current models have are ‘life like’ in size, weight, flexibility, and internal warmth. There are already robot brothels in Tokyo. The sex aspect of women has been effectively outsourced, and the models come with the all important OFFSWITCH. No food, no dates, no drama, it is the disruption to the dating / marriage scene as the car was to the horse and buggy. Men already like spending more time with gaming and tech than with women. Remember, women said they need a man… Read more »
Most people (including men) want relationships for more than just sex. Your sex robot will not share your sorrows or joy. It will not visit you in the hospital, or gently hold your hand at your father’s funeral. (At least I hope not, because, that would be pretty weird.) Maybe someday there will be intelligent robots capable of human connection but until then we are stuck with our fellow imperfect human beings. If you feel that traditional dates are too expensive then don’t take women on traditional dates. The farmer’s market and coffee is a great first date. Museums, art… Read more »
Sarah love your comments and I completely agree. What was one of your most memorable dates? And despite all that what is your opinion on men paying for even those dates…or holidays etc…?
My first date with my husband was a trip to the farmer’s market. On our 2nd date, we went to a Meetup game of Hearts at a coffee shop (I’d mentioned I loved playing hearts), which I thought was a lot of fun. I invited him on our 3rd date, a walk on the beach. TBH Inwas never much of a dater (most of my relationships started as friendships that became romantic later) but I always offered to split the cost of a date. I went on some dates, however, where the man insisted on paying even after I offered.… Read more »
And really these articles are meant to bring up most of the points that have been made, dating isn’t about money it’s about getting to know someone and share experiences. The success in terms of dating is independent of price point and so keep your costs to a minimum and focus on getting to know the person.
Change is always uncomfortable, Sarah. You’ve brought up a very valid point also. Just as we see so many points of conditioning of men on this site, so too does this enter in. For me? When I was dating in the early years? I could not bring myself to not pay as it would feel as if I were being “a lesser man”. Women helped to break that, and they can help now, as you have done. It was my wife that asked me out first, but she did it in a way that was easy to accept. Nothing else… Read more »
@Sarah Radford, the alternative women you speak of may be the minority though.
@ Boris, There are lots of good women out here just as their are good men too. Men MUST learn to be more discriminating. If your primary attribute is looks, then men are simply being dumb. Dumb people are just that: dumb. The sole purpose for being with a woman should NOT be sex. You should appreciate and value the whole woman. This means you need to closely examine her character, her personality….Sex is very very easy to get today. At no time can I recall in my lifetime (54 yrs) where sex is so easy to get. But, if… Read more »
“Sex is very very easy to get today. At no time can I recall in my lifetime (54 yrs) where sex is so easy to get. But, if you ONLY want hot and great looking women, be prepared to get in line. ” It may be easier, but it is not even remotely easy for a large amount of men. For women it is easier, but not men. I’ve known quite a few men (far more than women) who have gone 5-10+ years between sexual experiences, it is not easy unless you are willing and able to spend $300 an… Read more »
Yep. Dating is too expensive anymore. I also consider the return on investment. Not like that. If it is date 1,2,3 we meet up for drinks / coffee and go dutch. Why should I spend $60 x 3 dates for her (or I ) to decide we aren’t a match.
Also, there are a lot of women out there that just go on dates for the free food and entertainment with no intention of anything romantic.
When I go on a first date it’s usually just for coffee to get a sense of whether there’s a potential for a relationship; otherwise there’s no point in a second “real” date. I generally offer to pay, but because it’s just coffee it rarely exceeds 10 or 15 dollars. It’s a cheap investment, and I’ve never been stung by someone who just dated for a free dinner because they never make it past the coffee date stage.
@ J Walter, “Also, there are a lot of women out there that just go on dates for the free food and entertainment with no intention of anything romantic.” You should be able to spot those kind of women. So, don’t blame the woman. Too many men in this country need to stop going for women that hot and great looking, all the time. Those women have lots of options. You’re just one of them. “Why should I spend $60 x 3 dates for her (or I ) to decide we aren’t a match.” You should be able to figure… Read more »
Love your comments and if you’re dating “right,” relationships in the initial stages cost LESS because why should you be investing in someone you don’t know. If you are semi interested and grad a round of drinks you’re still hitting the $50 mark so make sure of the person, and pick a place (or happy hour) you know is within your cost range. Initial dates are much easier to keep at a lower cost. I think the costs drastically increase when you are in a serious relationship. Positive healthy relationships should share the burden of some costs but when you… Read more »
@ Benjamin, “why should you be investing in someone you don’t know..” You’re not investing. You’re merely spending. If you invest you expect a return…If you spend money on something, it is create some type of utility value.. “I think the costs drastically increase when you are in a serious relationship.” Why? You are now partners. Partners share. Right? This is where the investment comes into play. If she has the means but is unwilling to contribute or invest, then maybe it is not the right relationship. “All this still begs the question, why are Men paying for the majority… Read more »
“All this still begs the question, why are Men paying for the majority of costs in dating, initial or in a relationship.” Because the majority of women are not interested in equality, that’s plainly obvious. They want their cake and to eat it too, they want equal rights, equal pay, whilst still expecting a man to pay more. They feel more entitled to his money and try to rationalize it as romantic, because her time costs more than his. It’s one of the female privileges, a woman doesn’t even have to work to still have good success in dating compared… Read more »