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Story Update: Ashley Jackson — ‘Life Is Short and We All Have Our Own Life to Live’

 

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When Ashley Jackson was 21 years old, her struggle with being gay led to destructive behavior and ultimately resulted in her driving drunk and crashing her car into a concrete guardrail on the interstate. She shared this story with us on our Fifty-State Story Tour back 2010. Today, we catch up with Ashley and hear how life has been treating her since then.

 

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hello i’m nathan manske i’m the founder
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and executive director of i’m from
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driftwood
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for this week’s story update we’re going
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to hear from ashley jackson
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who we filmed in jackson mississippi way
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back in 2010.
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let’s take a look at our story i’m
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ashley jackson
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i grew up in brandon mississippi but i
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live in jackson mississippi now
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i was seeing a woman when i was 21
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she was a good bit older than me um
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but you know i was telling myself i’m
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not really gay i just like her as a
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person
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um and i was seeing a guy at the same
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time they both knew about each other um
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but i was i was kind of going through
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the motions with him obviously and i
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really
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uh cared for her but it was a very
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unhealthy relationship
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on my birthday which is christmas eve
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i had been out with friends and they
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were buying me shots and it was great
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and
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um i’d been out with the guy and and the
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girl i was seeing
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came to one of the bars i was at she’s
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like oh i’m going to take you to go see
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a friend it’s going to be great
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and i was like i’m really close to home
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i’ve been drinking a lot of just go home
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and she was like no and she convinced me
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and so i went with her and
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i ended up having a huge argument
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because she was upset that i was seeing
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the guy and
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i ended up attempting to drive myself
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home which i should not have done
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you know i was like yeah people get in
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accidents they have duis whatever that’s
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not going to happen to me that only
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happens to those other people that are
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complete idiots and
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you know that’s that won’t happen i
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passed out
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driving on the interstate i was not
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wearing a seat belt and i
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fell into the passenger seat as i was
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driving and i remember telling myself
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okay
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ashley you’re driving you need to get up
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and when i did that i used my left hand
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on the wheel as leverage to pull myself
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up and i did that and i
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jerked the car to the left and went over
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four lanes on the interstate and smashed
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into a
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concrete guardrail i don’t know how long
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i was there i don’t know who found me
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but i ended up in the in the hospital
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for over a week i had shattered my left
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ankle
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i had 50 plus stitches in my face
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and i had to move back in with my mom it
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was easy
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to drink all the time and you know that
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was one thing i could control in my life
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i couldn’t you know control the feelings
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i had for
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women i couldn’t control what other
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people would think
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about me being in a relationship with a
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woman but i could drink and that made me
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fun
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and that made it easier to date guys or
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to be in
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reckless relationships and you know
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unprotected sex and
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being promiscuous and all of these
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things having that self-destructive life
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led to me almost killing myself
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unintentionally
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but you know
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driving on an interstate at 70 miles per
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hour no seat belt and
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flying across four lanes and not hitting
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anyone else
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and surviving if that’s not a wake-up
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call i don’t know what is
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i realized i did that to myself that i
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was hiding from who
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i was who i was born to be and
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um i couldn’t do that anymore
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i couldn’t live my life for other people
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anymore and
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i told myself okay you’re gay so
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welcome ashley thank you so much for
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taking the time to be with us today to
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talk more about your story how have you
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been
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i’m great there’s a lot of life has
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happened
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in 10 years yeah
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yeah i um it has been 10 years since
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we filmed and published that story when
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you watched that story today
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like how does what goes through your
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mind or your heart like how do you feel
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watching it today it’s so um
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wild to see myself um as a
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26 year old i guess at the time i’m
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talking about my that experience that
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was still fairly fresh
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in my life of the car accident and all
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of those things
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um but it’s just
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amazing to see to think about where i’ve
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my where my life has ventured from the
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time of i remember you guys
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being in my house and and hanging out
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and you know
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recording that video and then thinking
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about where i am now it’s just
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completely wild are you still in
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mississippi
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no i’m not i’m actually live in atlanta
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now
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um i
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moved to montgomery alabama actually not
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not too terribly long after the
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interview i got a really great job with
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the southern poverty law center
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i was one of their first lgbt
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rights community advocates and i worked
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directly with the attorneys
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in that department
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we helped find i helped find clients
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to work with directly for of course
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taking their cases free of charge
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you know many of them were students in
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public schools who were um
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being refused the right to
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wear what they wanted to school or to
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take the partner they wanted to to prom
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and it was just an amazing experience we
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actually had a really big case that we
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worked on
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with the conversion therapy and trying
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to
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shut down the therapists
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that were providing those services that
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they said we’re working in it was
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obviously very detrimental to
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the lives of many people i
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then um was the state director for the
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human rights campaign in alabama for a
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short time
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um i did that for about a year and um it
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was an experience and
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then um you know i’d met a girl and and
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i just needed to do something a little
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bit different and never thought i’d live
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in the big city of atlanta but
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here i am wow that’s
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you’ve done a lot these past 10 years
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that’s
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incredible congratulations on all that
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growth and success and
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relationship and yeah how long have you
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been in atlanta now
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um yeah i’ve been in atlanta about about
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five years now
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um my wife and i have been together
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um about nine years and we’ve been
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married three years
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and we have a two-year-old so it doesn’t
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it doesn’t sound like you’re very busy
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at all you have probably tons of free
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time
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and well that that all sounds amazing
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congratulations on
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all the progress and success you’ve had
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these past 10 years
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i i was going through your your video on
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youtube and i was going through the
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comments and i wanted to read one
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comment that i
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read that that stood out um and the
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comment
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is just one word sort of one word with a
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hyphen
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and it’s in all caps and it says truth
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teller
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exclamation point and over the years
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a lot of people have been have asked me
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like oh what story stands out to you
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from all the stories that you’ve
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collected
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over the years and i mention your story
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a lot because uh and i’m wondering like
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if this is
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if you hear this a lot but i really
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admired like the honesty
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in your story for you to acknowledge um
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you know the
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all the truths in your life you know you
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weren’t afraid to talk about
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that you were in a uh and i’m quitting
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here i’m not you know
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putting this on you in an unhealthy
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relationship you know you weren’t afraid
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to talk about
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uh that you did drive after drinking and
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you were just like
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these this is my past these are my
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experiences and mistakes and
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but then it led you to make that
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ultimate uh important decision to live
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your
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life openly and i’m wondering and so i
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think that’s one of
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the reasons why even 11 years later
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still sticks out to me so much
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is that honesty is that like is that
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your mo do people do people call you
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truth teller
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a lot or like comment on how honest and
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old you are um you know it’s funny i do
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have
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um like my best friend tells me all the
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time we’ve been best friends since we
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were 11 years old and she tells me all
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the time you know that she appreciates
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that i
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um that i don’t judge people on their
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mistakes or um how they might present to
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the world
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i know that people have lots of
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different things about themselves that
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they
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might like or they don’t like that
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society or
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their family or friends or whomever
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might
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not like those things or they might like
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those things about them it varies but
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um i don’t think it’s my job to
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to judge anyone and to make them feel
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bad
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about mistakes they’ve made especially
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if they acknowledge those mistakes so
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you know i find that you know i’m
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usually harder on myself
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than people are on me and i’m trying to
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give myself a little more grace and
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understanding um but that was
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it was it was wild that i had
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that that was an incredibly
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life-changing moment for me
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and when i had that light bulb moment of
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i’m gay
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okay and i remember lying in that
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hospital bed saying it to myself
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and it was just like i felt this great
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sense of relief
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and i can’t imagine having
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gone through that traumatic experience
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and still having to carry that burden
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um and i recognize i was fortunate
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enough to
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be able to come out and still have
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support and still be able to
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have family or friends that you know
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were supportive or that didn’t you know
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completely you know push me out of their
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lives um
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but all i can do is try to be honest
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with myself
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and with others and you know encourage
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people to do the same
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um you know radical honesty can
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sometimes be
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a little hurtful as well but i think um
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genuine honesty
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is definitely something that we could
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all
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try to do more if someone watches your
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story for the first time like in this
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video
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what do you hope that they take away
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from that and or what do you hope that
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your story means you know to everyone
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else
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i hope that people don’t judge me on my
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mistakes
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i definitely you know know that i am
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one of the luckiest people in the world
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that i did not lose my life or
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injure someone else that horrible night
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and i just want people to know that i’m
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trying
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i’m trying to be a good person i’m
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trying um
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to help people i’m trying to make the
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world
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um a better place however i can do that
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um and just have a little grace with me
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if i happen to stumble or
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um or fall or you know make a mistake or
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possibly say the wrong thing
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my intentions are good and
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um i hope that we can keep that
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messaging
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and remember that when we’re talking or
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experiencing
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uh new relationships or encounters with
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anybody that we
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hopefully can understand their intent
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and what about people who
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might watch this who are still
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struggling to come out
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and if they haven’t come out yet what
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would you hope that you know what advice
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would you give them
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knowing that they might be struggling
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just as you were at the beginning of
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your video
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i’m never going to be that person that
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says come out wherever you are
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because that’s incredibly
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unrealistic for a lot of people and it
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can be um
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it could be a disaster for some folks um
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i think if so if you can be honest with
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yourself that’s the first thing
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being honest with yourself um about who
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you are
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um i think you definitely have to
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make healthy decisions the best you can
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and that will include who you choose to
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spend your time with that includes who
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you
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even choose to tell about your
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identity your orientation relationships
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or whatever that looks like
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having a support system if possible
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is huge um even if it’s just one person
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that you can tell
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and it’s someone that you trust um
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sometimes that can be
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the one thing that you need to keep you
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going
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anything else that you you wanted to
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share with people
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you know now that it’s the 10 years have
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passed and
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you know any or anything about your life
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or
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that you just wanted to share um
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i know that it can be hard looking at
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ourselves
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it’s kind of like reading old journals
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and thinking
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oh i can’t believe i was such a little
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turd or something you know but it’s
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um you know being okay and proud with
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who we were and how we’ve grown
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um i think is so
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important and i definitely cringed a
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little bit watching
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that video but i was also like oh she’s
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so cute
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um and it’s not normal and she has no
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idea what’s gonna happen
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in her life but uh
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yeah i’m just um i’m so happy
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and um i’m so lucky to
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have the life i have i’m not rich by any
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means um
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you know but i have a really awesome
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partner and
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a super sweet um little kiddo and a
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chubby old dog and um
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we’re happy so i just hope people can
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find they’re happy and not let um
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not let the opinions of others stop them
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from living their lives because life is
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short and we all have our own life to
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live
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and um you gotta live for you
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all right i i can’t think of a better
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way to
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end it than that but thank you so much
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ashley it’s so good to see you again
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after all this time
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hopefully it won’t be another 10 years
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but all my best to you and your
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beautiful family and
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and your chunky dog and you’ll have a
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good one and
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and be in touch and stay safe and
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healthy wonderful thank you so much
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all right thanks ashley okay and if you
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have any questions for ashley you can
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just leave them in the comments
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and you can keep an eye out for more
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story updates in the the coming weeks
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and if you want we have hundreds of
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other video stories
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on the i’m from driftwood website or our
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youtube channel
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on instagram or facebook thanks for
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watching

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