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Men’s reticence to show vulnerability is seen as a source of male anger, and as a challenge to men’s ability to connect emotionally with others. But vulnerability takes many forms. Showing vulnerability to deepen his relationships is praiseworthy. But men’s vulnerability can also challenge society’s beliefs about gender, which can be discomforting for progressives as much as conservatives.
Charlie Brown’s Football
Advocates for men and boys point to the sex abuse scandal you’ve never heard of. The victims are boys in juvenile detention. But 95% of the perpetrators are women, and that contradicts what we think we know about sexual predators.
Unconscious gender biases play a role. One comment on a Good Men Project article (I forget which one) noted that talking about female perpetrators is more socially unacceptable than talking about male vulnerability.
Along the same lines, the Centers for Disease Control found that over a third of severe domestic violence victims are men, and men and women are equally likely to experience emotional abuse. Yet, many still deny that violence against men is a problem.
A man who openly talks about these issues is likely to find himself accused of playing the victim. He may find “ironic” hashtags waiting for him – #WhatAboutTehMenz, #MasculinitySoFragile, or #MaleTears.
Another comment on a Good Men Project article described this double bind as being like Lucy asking Charlie Brown to kick a football. First, he says no, she’ll just pull it away and he’ll fall flat on his back. But she promises she won’t, so Charlie Brown agrees to kick the football. We all know what happens next.
No wonder men hide their vulnerability.
Quit Your Whining
One alternative is for men to frame their vulnerability in terms of masculinity’s effect on women. But men’s ability to speak authentically about their issues is limited if showing vulnerability must be carefully calculated to remain within other people’s comfort zones. So most men avoid gender issues like the plague.
But this comes at a cost. Boys are falling far behind girls in school, but little is being done to address it. And almost four in five suicides are male, but we resist talking about suicide as a gender issue. Instead, it’s pointed out that while women attempt suicide more often, men use more lethal methods. Which is as insightful as saying that people who drive faster get more speeding tickets.
We rarely ask why men use more lethal methods. After all, a suicide attempt is a cry for help. And a cry for help shows a belief that someone will listen. But if you don’t believe anyone will listen then you don’t attempt suicide – you commit suicide. Why don’t men think people will listen to them?
That people listen to men more than women is taken for granted. But that’s with impersonal things like sports or politics. Personal issues are a different matter. Advocates for men and boys point to Boko Haram as an illuminating example. When Boko Haram kidnapped girls there was an outpouring of international concern. But there was silence when boys were kidnapped – or even burned alive. This enormous empathy gap, however, is largely invisible.
Men Must Change
This whining is more than most us can take. Men are told to step up to the plate. The United Nations campaign is HeForShe, not HeAndShe. Its focus is gender equality, which means men doing something about violence against women and girls.
To show their vulnerability (but only in certain ways), men must change. Writer Ally Fogg describes this as the last great masculine delusion. He asks us to image telling women that to close the pay gap women must learn to change their behaviors. The problem, of course, is ignoring that our culture needs to change. This doesn’t deny women’s or men’s personal responsibility – it just acknowledges that social context matters and that responsibility is an interactive process.
But when the topic is male vulnerability, saying that men must change doesn’t strike the same discordant note. Rather, saying society first must change sounds off key.
Without looking at the larger picture, however, the vulnerability dilemma remains – being perceived as a whiny victim or as being strong and silent. We shouldn’t be surprised that men so often take the most socially acceptable option.
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Thanks for writing this article. For me, I sense a huge confusion and it revolves around ‘vulnerability’. I cannot discern from this article what vulnerability is – and then there is a dictionary definition – that really does not fit for me. I like Dr Brene Brown’s definition (from http://www.oprah.com/own-super-soul-sunday/excerpt-daring-greatly-by-dr-brene-brown ), she says “I define vulnerability as uncertainty, risk, and emotional exposure.” I like that. Further, for me, SHAME (which this article conveniently ignores) is the core reason anyone shrinks from vulnerability. For me, I really struggle to read about vulnerability in the absence of disclosure about SHAME. I would… Read more »
Hi Dave Since I am a woman I have never experienced what life is like for men. Nor have I any experience with men expressing the vulnerabilities you write about here,the kinds of vulnerabilities a man does not feel he can share with women, girlfriend,wife,lover ,coworker , medical doctor , psychiatrist, psychologist ,neighbour….. I have learned that most men have two vulnerable issues: sexuality and work. Please Dave share with us some of the most common types , issue of vulnerabilities that men experience that they can NOT share with any woman. It surprises me if women in general, and… Read more »
In personal relationships some women are supportive while others are not. As for my personal experience, I don’t want to be more detailed online.
The public discussion is far less supportive. Did you know about Boko Haram kidnapping boys or 1/3 of severe domestic violence being against men before reading my article? The mocking hashtags when men bring up these issues are contemporary, not 50 years old.
hi Dave Boko Haram has been written about earlier many times on this website. I do not remember details but several men have informed us about the fact that not only girls were viktims. I usually do not read lots of news from what happens in Africa,and can not tell about the quality of journalism from that part of the world. About domestic violence: I have read news that told us that men are as often victims as women,but women are more harmed physically. Emotionally I guess all genders are equally harmed in households with domestic violence. What triggered my… Read more »
I do not say that no one talks about it. Rather, I say that men who do talk about it are often mocked.
Silke,
“Nor have I any experience with men expressing the vulnerabilities you write about here, the kinds of vulnerabilities a man does not feel he can share with women ”
Well, you ARE a woman, aren’t you…?
P.S.
The avatar given next to your comments is based on the e-mail address you enter, and not your username. You know that, right?
It’s interesting that we haven’t seen a female perspective or thoughts on this post yet. I’m just waiting for the feminist to gas light the argument and make it about some gynocentric agency deprivation narrative using the almighty and regurgitated P word.
Hi Rafael
Here is a woman voice 🙂
The last time I read what a researcher on this problem wrote about this phenomenon that some boys lag behind in school i read ” it is possible the main problem is that we except too little of boys in school “.
And it was my impression he thought of parents and maybe also teachers …
And I though ,that is an new interesting angle to see this issue from . And yes, he is man doing research in field ….
The bottom line – sadly enough – is that in MOST relationships (not all) men simply cannot trust their women to be emotional containers for our own suffering. How sucky is that! And the reason for this – as formulated by no less than marriage guru Dr John Gottman – is that (most) women need their men to provide a feeling of safety for them. If they don’t, those women will react with all sorts of distancing behavior. (See the writings of Steve Horseman on this site for an example). The bottom line is that most women are really not… Read more »
Hi Sal “The bottom line – sadly enough – is that in MOST relationships (not all) men simply cannot trust their women to be emotional containers for our own suffering. How sucky is that! And the reason for this – as formulated by no less than marriage guru Dr John Gottman – is that (most) women need their men to provide a feeling of safety for them. ” I like to read Dr. Gottmann’s research . May I ask where he expresses what you tell us here ? It is not controversial to say that women need their man to… Read more »
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Sal thank you!
I gets newsletters from Gottman but I must confess I have not read everything.
This one I will look up and read 🙂
He draws on evolutionary psychology to make the case that women have an overriding need to feel “safe”. That’s why so many women instinctively recoil from their man when he expresses his own very human weaknesses. If he’s weak, she doesn’t feel he can be her emotional protector. If you think those ideas are sexist, complain to Gottman. I’m just the messenger. And the idea of men’s groups are being pitched hard these days because, for whatever reasons, modern men can’t talk to their wives about their troubles…so they are encouraged to have a coterie of men to weep with.… Read more »
And the idea of men’s groups are being pitched hard these days because, for whatever reasons, modern men can’t talk to their wives about their troubles…so they are encouraged to have a coterie of men to weep with.
But good luck with that because men trying to form groups on their own runs the risk of pissing off so call progressives. Apparently men getting together to help themselves for their own sake is inherently misogynistic.
Danny: “But good luck with that because men trying to form groups on their own runs the risk of pissing off so call progressives. Apparently men getting together to help themselves for their own sake is inherently misogynistic.” Well, that’s HALF true, Danny. If it’s a men’s group that is all progressives, or has an explicitly progressive agenda, then they’ll be pro-feminism and won’t get denounced as misogynists. On the other hand, if it’s a group of (let’s say) men’s rights activists, they will be burned at the Twitter stake, for sure, mocked on various progressive sites, etc. And if… Read more »
If it’s a men’s group that is all progressives, or has an explicitly progressive agenda, then they’ll be pro-feminism and won’t get denounced as misogynists. And that is exactly what I mean. Why are the two choices “pro feminist or misogynist”? This has happened on several college campuses already where someone tries to start a men’s group and despite the group saying they have no ties to the MRM and even MRM groups saying they have no ties to the group opponents still judge it as inherently misogynistic. Can’t give any actual examples of hatred of women but because women… Read more »
“If it’s a men’s group that is all progressives, or has an explicitly progressive agenda, then they’ll be pro-feminism and won’t get denounced as misogynists.”
In other words, if the mission of the group is to help women, nit men. That’s not the men’s group Danny was talking about. He was talking about a men’s group who’s aim it was to help men.
And in the specific example I’m talking about, Ryerson University, the group was lead by a woman so you can’t say women weren’t involved. Plain and simple it was feminists on that campus throwing a tantrum because someone wanted to address gender issues outside of their brand. A lot of them think they own a monopoly on the concepts of equality and freedom and dont like the idea that someone could be working towards it in a way that they don’t have control over.
Dave thank you for writing your article. I have felt for some time that the issues are a societal matter. A lot to discuss to here but well said
Society needs to encourage and support boys and men in developing their full range of emotions.
Thank you Dave. This struck such a a really deep cord with me, something I have always known but never really examined on it’s own.
I think the solution is men looking after men, while purposefully excluding women, especially women with whom there’s a romantic/sexual relation. She may be able to handle your emotions and feelings in a certain pre-packaged way, but cannot be entrusted with it when it’s in it’s raw honesty. That’s between guys only. I don’t care if a friend of mine in distress emotionally vomit all over me. Neither do I then assume the position as an alpha guru handing out practical advice only. If the hug is called for, I dive right in. There’s no need for women to be… Read more »
Exactly! This is what you have a male best friend for, or a few, if you’re lucky. Spend an entire evening with a friend like that, just dumping everything that’s hurting you into a massive venting session, and even just the trading of stories, advice, and lack of judgement can be enough to do wonders.
“One comment on a Good Men Project article (I forget which one) noted that talking about female perpetrators is more socially unacceptable than talking about male vulnerability.” It’s actually been in several articles. I believe in repetition, but I also believe I’ve seen other people make the assertion. “We rarely ask why men use more lethal methods. After all, a suicide attempt is a cry for help. And a cry for help shows a belief that someone will listen. But if you don’t believe anyone will listen then you don’t attempt suicide – you commit suicide. ” I believe is… Read more »
Sugar and spice is another great example. Do you have a blog? I always enjoy your comments
One of the best articles I’ve read here in a long while. it actually zeroes in on why men aren’t speaking up. I also like that it gives specific examples of how men’s voices are silenced when they don’t conform to the norms of how men are supposed to act. Another comment on a Good Men Project article described this double bind as being like Lucy asking Charlie Brown to kick a football. First he says no, she’ll just pull it away and he’ll fall flat on his back. But she promises she won’t, so Charlie Brown agrees to kick… Read more »
“Another comment on a Good Men Project article described this double bind as being like Lucy asking Charlie Brown to kick a football.”
You remembered that, did you.
…and that thud was the sound of me hitting the floor when realizing that this piece was published. Truly the conversation that no one is having…yet.
Well done, Dave.
So that was you. It’s a great metaphor. It struck a chord with me. Just couldn’t remember who said it
Hey, I used that analogy years ago on this site commenting on one of the numerous ‘Men Should be Emotionally Open’ articles
Great article! Great website!
Thanks much for this piece that illustrates well the crazy double-bind men are in these days when it comes to women generally and feminism particularly.
Here is a must see video by Professor Janice Fiamengo given at a recent event hosted by The Canadian Association For Equality (CAFE) called SheForHe in Ottawa, Canada, on February 22, 2017.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgOTwZZLiW4
Thanks, I’ll check it out
as a side not to Dave’s essay, that video, Is why I bristle, Albert, when I see men acting in kind, blaming or accusing “women” based upon the actions of the few. Men are just now both entering the conversation, and beginning to bring their issues to the table. For me, it is of the utmost importance that we do not proceed from the exact premise that Professor Fiamengo unveiled regarding gender based feminism in her opening statement. We have to rise above, be better then that, address these issues from a truly egalitarian viewpoint, at society, and without the… Read more »
That’s a good point, DJ