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Peach (they/them) is a recovering alcoholic and addict who has ADHD. The first time Peach got sober, they figured that being sober would “fix” their trouble performing at work. But when Peach continued to struggle with focus, they decided to get evaluated for ADHD. The path to ADHD diagnosis wasn’t easy. Peach feared that doctors thought they were drug-seeking and wondered, “How can I explain to you how debilitating this is?”
Also in this episode: ADHD and oversharing, and being “the life of the party” to cope with ADHD-related difficulties.
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so yeah i got sober for the first time
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in april 2019 and i
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was doing the steps and
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living a sober lifestyle and still i
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would get to the office and sit there
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and kind of just be a zombie for
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two to three hours and sometimes all day
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so once i you know stopped using i was
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able to see like okay this is just a
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problem that exists
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that i can’t fix on my own
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from the understood podcast network this
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is adhd aha a podcast where people share
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the moment when it finally clicked that
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they or someone they know has adhd
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my name is laura key i’m the editorial
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director here at understood and as
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someone who’s had my own adhd aha moment
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i’ll be your host
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i’m here today with peach perkins peach
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is a writer and a recovering alcoholic
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and addict who lives in new york thanks
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so much for being here today peach thank
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you for having me this is so exciting i
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wanted to say right off the bat in
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addition to talking about adhd and your
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aha moment that throughout this
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interview we’ll probably be talking
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about
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substance abuse and your journey getting
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sober and i want to be really honest
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with you and say that i don’t have a lot
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of experience with conversations like
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those so i just wanted to ask for the
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sake of this interview and also for our
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listeners listening at home is there any
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terminology that makes you feel
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uncomfortable anything that you want to
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recommend that i avoid saying or the
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opposite things that you like people to
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say when they’re talking about sobriety
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with you yeah i mean i am in a 12-step
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program so i don’t have a problem saying
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like i’m an addict alcoholic but i know
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people get sober a number of different
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ways and some people don’t like to
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identify as that or it’s not helpful for
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them but like i don’t think there’s
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anything you could say that would offend
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me in terms of sobriety
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okay i appreciate that thank you sure
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yeah when did you
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realize that you had adhd i went to nyu
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and i had come from like a small town in
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rural upstate new york and then going to
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nyu with a class of like 100 people
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you know you couldn’t really talk to the
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professor and i i just felt like very
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overwhelmed and i was like okay i guess
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this is just college everyone feels this
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way
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the procrastination it was really tough
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but again i just wrote that office it’s
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college and so when i started getting to
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work when i was like 22 23 24 when i had
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an office job and i was sitting at a
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desk and i was like i’m not a morning
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person i would go to bed at typically 3
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a.m and wake up at 11 is kind of like a
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okay
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time frame for me but
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so i would get to work in midtown at 9
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30
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and just be like
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at my desk just waiting for my brain to
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turn on
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sometimes it just wouldn’t the whole day
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and so i’m drinking coffee i’m in the
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break room just like chugging this like
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weird black coffee like come on girl
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just oh also just a disclaimer i go by
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mostly they them but sometimes i refer
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to myself as she so prefer they them but
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sometimes i misgender myself so it’s all
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good um
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but yeah i was wearing like a little
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like pants suit and was like going to
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rockefeller center like come on girl you
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can do this and just
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never ever clicking in and just always
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kind of wanting to do a side project or
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i started a comedic blog because i
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couldn’t focus at work that’s kind of
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what i knew something’s wrong but i
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still didn’t know it was adhd did you
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have any inkling growing up or did
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others that you might have adhd well i
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had so much energy as a kid and it
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wasn’t the like pacing around the room
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energy like oh that bully has adhd
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because he can’t sit down and he’s
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interrupting during class but i
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i had so much energy when i was doing
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theater in elementary school and middle
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school i was just like doing these video
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projects and always creating something
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and always working on something like
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that at the expense of my schoolwork and
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kind of procrastinating but still able
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to do pretty well because i was younger
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and everything was easier but i
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definitely had problems with
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interrupting
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talking out of turn not paying attention
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during class eating during class
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constantly
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the teacher like threw out the bag of
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potato chips in front of me when i was
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in sixth grade and i was like nah why
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would you do that but just like i always
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needed to be stimulated but nobody ever
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mentioned it did they ever use other
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adjectives to describe you that weren’t
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related to adhd as far as they knew
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did see
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no common sense teachers didn’t say that
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but in a joking way like friends would
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hyper
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energetic always hungry
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weird
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yeah i guess those were the things how
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did that affect your perception of
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yourself
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i mean i was bullied in elementary
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school i’m also queer so growing up i
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don’t know i felt different i felt like
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there was something different about me
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that i couldn’t quite place i remember
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asking my second grade teacher like can
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a girl ever turn into a boy and he was
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like no and i was like okay but
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you know now they would have different
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conversations around that it was like
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1996. or seven so that wasn’t really a
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conversation at that point but yeah i
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always felt like there was something
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different about me and i felt like i was
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always too much i was like talking at
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the wrong time or
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too energetic really wanting to be
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friends with people just like a lot
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how did you cope with that feeling
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either as a child or as a young adult i
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grew up in rural upstate new york so i
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was like living in the woods with my mom
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so i would just
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like sing in the trees like
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or just be really like a weird little
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tree
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nymph person but uh
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that you know and i would read a ton
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basically i was always reading uh what
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kind of stuff did you like to read like
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encyclopedia brown i would always try to
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like figure out the things my mom
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actually volunteered at the library so i
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would have to go with her for like five
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hours while they had the library
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meetings every week and i would be in
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the kids section just reading
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oh i found like woody allen’s like
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uh book like everything you always
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wanted to know about sex but were too
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afraid to ask i would go in the back of
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the stacks and be like reading these
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like spicy yeah trying to learn just
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about
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life
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i tried to read anna karenina i was like
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trying to read things that are above my
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reading level and then kind of didn’t do
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it wow that is a wide swath from
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encyclopedia brown to its woody allen’s
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sex to anna karenina
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really
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covered it all there yeah
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so if i’m hearing you right it sounds
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like you’re very comfortable
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being alone probably being with yourself
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right what about your relationships with
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other people what are they like i get
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overwhelmed in groups of people
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historically i know how to act
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one-on-one i feel like i can kind of
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listen and give feedback and concentrate
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but when there are
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groups of people in the past i felt like
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i need to perform or be kind of like
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come on keep the mood up i feel like i’m
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always supposed to like entertain people
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in some way i’m not sure if that’s adhd
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related but i just was always kind of
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stressed out and overwhelmed in group
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situations i never really want to do
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that i always thrive in one-on-one
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situations i’ve always had like good
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close friends like people who can come
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over and take a nap you don’t have to
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do anything special i i love those
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friendships like sleepover friendships
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but uh i was always very like boy crazy
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slash having a bunch of crushes hyper
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focusing on these crushes which now i
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can recognize his adhd i tell my mom and
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dad like this is the one this is the one
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this is the one like
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nine times a year and they’re like okay
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cool to their credit i wanna hear more
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about being i think the phrase you used
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was too much and this performative
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aspect and trying to be like the life of
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the party you were saying i’m not sure
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if this is related to adhd i think that
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it can be at least from what i’ve heard
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from other folks in our community we
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hear a lot about kids or adults with
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adhd sometimes if they’re self-aware
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enough and it sounds like you were to
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know that you’re struggling with kind of
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the social rules of like not
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interrupting and paying attention and
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sometimes you can you can use that kind
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of performance or the clowning around to
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be a distraction and kind of totally
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save yourself in a way yeah i think when
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i was a kid and i would try to be funny
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as a coping mechanism and when i’d get a
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lot of attention i was like all right
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things are going great keep it up come
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on come on come on keep the energy up
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you know and i talked to my therapist
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about it she’s like you really don’t
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need to do that you can just like show
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up as yourself yeah it’s just unlearning
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that you don’t always have to be on with
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me it’s kind of on or off there’s never
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a neutral it’s kind of like i’m ready to
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engage and i’m like all in or i’m like i
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need to be alone because i can’t do this
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right now wow that gave me goosebumps
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when you said unlearning how to be on
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that really resonated with me did you
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feel like that when you were growing up
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oh all the time i still do
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i still do it’s only with people i’m
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really comfortable with that i feel like
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i’m thinking of your sleepover friends
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right people who can just come over and
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take a nap yeah it’s a lot for me to let
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down like that and not feel like i have
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to entertain
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oh my gosh totally and also
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do you find or i’ve found that i really
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try to make these deep connections so
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quickly i’m just like hey here’s
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everything about myself uh how does
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everybody tell me everything about you
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and then okay i guess we’re best friends
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now so you know
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yeah i’m kind of making you do that
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right now sorry but that’s fine
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but i guess over sharing is a tendency
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of adhd because i just say whatever’s on
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my mind all the time to anyone in
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earshot there’s never a poker face
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there’s never a like maybe i shouldn’t
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and so i’ve learned okay don’t trauma
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bond with work colleagues or don’t like
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there are some situations in which
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not everyone needs to know everything
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about your inner life all the time right
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it might seem obvious but it’s actually
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can be a very tricky thing for people
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especially people with adhd even when it
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comes to social media like i find myself
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acting like it’s a live journal or i
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find myself just like dear diary on
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instagram like no one else can see my
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thoughts and then someone will be like
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oh i saw that and i was like oh because
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i feel like i’m putting it into the
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ether and then i forget about it and i
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forget that people are like absorbing
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that information oh that’s so
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interesting yeah i kind of was in that
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realm for a while like back in college i
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was like if i’m gonna say one thing i
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have to say everything yeah over
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explaining yeah and i was always like
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that with even my written journaling as
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well like writing everything down so i
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didn’t forget it like post-it notes all
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over the wall kind of thing and i think
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part of that is like wanting to be
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understood because so often we don’t
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feel understood so you feel like okay i
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just have to give them the context i
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have to give them how i came to this
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thing you know all this stuff it’s like
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understand me this isn’t coming out of
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nowhere you know totally hear you i
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think my way of coping with that was
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that i just kind of shut it all down
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altogether and i don’t really journal
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anymore which kind of makes me sad i get
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so overwhelmed when i start
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yeah that i feel like i’m just not gonna
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do it at all do you do the thing of
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buying the new journals and being like
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this is gonna be different this time i
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have so many empty journals i can’t yeah
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this is today is the day
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i’m gonna write my office today
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yeah yeah i’m like he didn’t text me
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back and then it’s like one page and
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then i never visit it again
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it’s a short story
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i’d love to talk about the process of
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getting evaluated and diagnosed with
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adhd because i think i remember you
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telling me that it was tricky oh god
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yeah my therapist said you have the
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thought and then it’s a while between
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having the realization and taking action
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for people even with adhd it’s not and
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also she has adhd which is really
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helpful and i’m like kristin why didn’t
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you tell me sooner but you know those
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therapists they always make you come to
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the answer yourself yeah yeah yeah so
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annoying how do you feel about what i’m
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like no just tell me
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so i knew
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six years ago that i needed a diagnosis
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in order to get treatment and when i
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went to my primary care i think they
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treated it as if i was drug seeking
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because i i was using at that time like
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drinking and coke and
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whatever else so kind of my primary care
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is trying to refer me to a psychiatrist
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a psychiatrist was trying to refer me to
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primary care and it was that kind of
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loop and everything’s expensive so i was
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just like all right i’ll just have a
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five hour energy every morning and
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flaming hot cheetos and try to
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bang out these you know press releases
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and then
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i was
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served a instagram ad for this mental
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health startup and it was kind of
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reasonable and i got to meet with a
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psychiatrist and i think even then they
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were not used to diagnosing female body
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people as much or kind of trying to
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downplay it or maybe being like is that
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really a hard thing and i don’t know i’m
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like how can i explain to you how
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debilitating this is and has always been
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it felt like such a fight every step of
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the way to get a diagnosis but luckily
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they diagnosed me and i was like great
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when was that that was february of 2020
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right before the pandemic
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and i was sober at that time so i had
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gotten sober april 2019
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and i was like okay that’s the thing
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preventing me from doing a good job at
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work now i can really go all in and i
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was still at work just my eyes were
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crossed and i still couldn’t do what i
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needed to do
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that wasn’t what was in my way
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i had something similar happen when i
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didn’t know what was going on but i knew
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that i had a lot of stuff going on and i
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got diagnosed with anxiety and started
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taking anti-anxiety medication
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and then i was like this is helpful i
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can feel that my anxiety is more under
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control but wait i still
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am having trouble with x y and z that
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were all related to adhd symptoms and
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then that started another conversation
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totally like time blindness i was like
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okay i’m sober so i shouldn’t be late to
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things and it’s like nope still late all
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the time you know i hear you yeah but
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even if you are sober you don’t have
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adhd you’re still allowed to be late
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sometimes like it’s okay sure
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yeah yeah but i was just like why is my
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life like
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running around like
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and i think most like female body people
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who are diagnosed you just feel this
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like overwhelming shame and guilt
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all the time like you’re not doing
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enough you didn’t do it right
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everyone’s gonna know that you didn’t do
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it right everyone knows you’re faking
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everyone knows all the stuff which no
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one really thinks but you’re just so
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used to like setting these goals not
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achieving them setting these deadlines
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missing them
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forgetting to pay the bill forgetting to
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do that so i was just always feeling
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like i was
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and when i got sober i was like why am i
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still doing this because i thought this
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should help that and that’s really when
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i was like okay i need
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to really try to get a diagnosis i’m
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sorry that it was so arduous to get the
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support that you needed it’s tricky
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already and this is
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by no means comparable but even as
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recent as this week i was having trouble
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getting my medication prescription
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because it’s a controlled substance and
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i had this panic that i was going to be
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denied this medication that helps me
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function on a daily basis i was afraid
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that i was going to be considered drug
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seeking i don’t know i thought of you
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and i thought if this is even like a
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millimeter of what peach experience
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that’s just awful you know some studies
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have shown that people who have a
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history of substance abuse and also have
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adhd
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if they take adhd medication it can help
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reduce using substances in them i think
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i read that same report if it was like
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in a medical journal or something i got
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down this adhd research rabbit hole the
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other day which is actually a healthy
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rabble to go down before i was diagnosed
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and treated i was definitely looking for
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something to help me and sometimes those
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things weren’t prescribed and
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now that i have the diagnosis i don’t
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feel the need
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as much sobriety is kind of every day is
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different and different things trigger
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different things but overall i feel like
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i am stable and know how my brain works
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and know what i need more as a result of
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my diagnosis
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i would love to hear from you just in
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general substance abuse and adhd
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symptoms and like the interplay between
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the two of them i guess it’s kind of a
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chicken and egg question that i have
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right like would you drink to help with
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adhd symptoms or did adhd symptoms in
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your mind increase cravings for drink
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i’m just curious how does this interplay
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how did you experience that the
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comorbidities anxiety depression i
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remember being a kid and feeling so like
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morose and just like desolate and that i
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would feel like super social anxiety and
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so i’m on an ssri but that still doesn’t
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help with adhd overwhelm when too many
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things are happening at once and you
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just want to like guttural scream into
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the woods in those moments in the past
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i’d be like let me have a glass of pinot
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grigio
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because that’ll just
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mellow things out
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but now
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i do let out a scream under like a kind
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of below like
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sometimes alone so definitely in moments
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of overwhelm i was using alcohol as kind
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of a sedative from what i know from our
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experts i think that’s pretty common to
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self-medicate when you have adhd even if
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you don’t know you have adhd it’s like
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the way you feel when you’re using a
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substance is the way that you would hope
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you’d feel if you didn’t have adhd
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totally and then like if i was really in
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an isolated i don’t want to do anything
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mood then i would use an upper like
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cocaine or something to be like it’s
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okay i can still go out so i was using
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the drugs kind of to without knowing it
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level out or medicate myself right
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people who have adhd are much more
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likely to abuse
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and it’s because of that like you’re
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just chasing
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that dopamine
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and the short-term
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dopamine right and so when you have a
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dopamine deficit you’re like what’s
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going to get me
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to the next like how do i come on where
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can i find it where can i find it that’s
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why i love speeding in my car which i
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shouldn’t and like gambling and you know
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all these like high risk behaviors i
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still am drawn to and when i’m doing a
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high risk something high risk i feel
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like hmm i can finally relax as opposed
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to going through daily life just feeling
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a little bit like yeah
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like in the back of your mind you know
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yes and also the sounds you use are just
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incredible and i want you to come over
18:26
to my house and read my kids children’s
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books to them oh my god i do nanny so
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yeah hit me up i feel like he would be
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stellar at that
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are there feelings around adhd
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medication in the sober community is
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there hesitation around using them in
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general or is it just a personal thing
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yeah i mean i think the sober community
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is so heterogeneous did i say that right
18:46
heterogeneous
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i think it’s a tough one to pronounce
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yeah i think the soviet community is so
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diverse diverse that’s a great word yeah
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yeah so like i can’t speak for anyone
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else but i think with medication that
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you need or for painkillers or whatever
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it may be i think it’s just like used
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with caution use with guidance i want to
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talk about how you are now there have
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been a lot of changes in your life you
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left your job you quit your job i did
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yeah and
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it sounds like it was a very conscious
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decision like a very thoughtful decision
19:19
as opposed to like an impulsive adhd
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move which is
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cool yeah yeah i mean i had a
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relationship with my boss for like i
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worked with her for seven years off and
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on and really appreciated my time there
19:31
i think just maybe time to move on and i
19:34
think also with the pandemic when remote
19:36
work became an option it was just like
19:39
such a boon for people who are
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neurodivergent because now you don’t
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have to be like the square peg in the
19:45
round hole you can be like yes perfect i
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can have my space and i can be
19:49
productive in the way that’s helpful for
19:52
me instead of trying to mask all day and
19:55
i’m exhausted when i come home because
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i’m doing this face to the world and
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trying to go through the motions and not
20:01
really being able to do what i need to
20:03
do there are certain environments that
20:05
are more conducive to adhd so it’s like
20:08
in you know traditional office
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structures especially an open floor plan
20:12
which is trash you can never just be by
20:15
yourself and everyone’s like how’s your
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weekend you’re like oh my god so now i’m
20:18
still in the job search process i’m
20:20
looking for remote work but i’m doing
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like a lot of non-profit work or like
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writing research papers and that’s been
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really cool to use my hyper focus for
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good
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yeah more kind of creative endeavors and
20:32
stuff i’m really happy to hear that the
20:34
pandemic for all the terrible things
20:36
that have happened with the pandemic
20:38
that
20:38
that has been a plus for you because i
20:40
know that being at home maybe well for
20:42
all kinds of people even for some people
20:43
with adhd being at home has been really
20:44
tough so i guess it just depends on how
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you present right right i guess that’s
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also because i don’t have kids that’s
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different than other people yeah well
20:52
that’s a whole different thing besides
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adhd
20:55
but i appreciate your thinking about
20:57
that yeah but no yeah i just have these
20:59
dogs and i’m even like with them like i
21:02
know just stop for me it’s just like my
21:03
husband like he’ll come downstairs when
21:05
he’s like taking a break and i’ll be in
21:07
the middle of something and he’ll be
21:08
like he’ll start talking to me i’m like
21:10
do not
21:11
interrupt me
21:13
i will never get back to it like we’ll
21:15
because you work in an environment
21:16
that’s really
21:18
understanding of neurodivergence like
21:21
how has that been helpful for you in
21:23
your life holistically oh what a great
21:25
question thanks for asking i mean it’s
21:27
been a game changer i’ve been at
21:29
understood for a long time and i got
21:31
diagnosed with adhd while i was working
21:33
at understood and even during that time
21:36
i
21:37
never talked about it i didn’t share and
21:39
that had nothing to do with the people
21:40
around me or the organization it’s not
21:42
like they wanted that for me but little
21:44
by little and hearing stories and
21:46
learning more about accessibility and
21:48
different ways of working right and
21:50
thinking little by little i’ve started
21:51
to be more and more open about my adhd
21:54
and now i’m on a podcast ta-da
21:57
um talking more about it than i ever
21:59
thought i would so it’s been a clutch in
22:01
terms of openness and acceptance of
22:04
myself
22:05
peach it has been so great to talk to
22:07
you this has been a lot of fun and i
22:08
feel like i’ve learned a lot and i think
22:10
your story is really beautiful and i
22:12
appreciate you coming on thank you so
22:14
much i really appreciate you asking me
22:16
and this was so fun i feel like i still
22:18
have one million questions but i’ll like
22:19
just follow up in every email
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