Azie Dungey and Evelyn from the Internets discuss James Brown, Black Girl Magic, and Black identity on this first episode of Say It Loud.
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It’s like the perfect shade of purple.
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Where’d you get it from?
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hit, hit.
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ooh, ooh.
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My enchiladas.
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– When you hear the words black pride,
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what comes to mind?
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Maybe vintage ads with glistening Afros,
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this gif, Black Panthers?
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Definitely the now infamous Issa Rae quote.
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– I’m rooting for everybody black; I am.
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– But what does it mean to love being black?
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Why does this concept exist
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and is there still a place for black pride
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in today’s cultural climate.
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– I’m Azie. – And I’m Evelyn.
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– Let’s discuss, on our first episode of Say it Loud.
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– (snapping fingers) James Brown.
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I also think of James Brown.
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– Yeah, that’s where title comes from.
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– Pride is defined as deep pleasure or satisfaction
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derived from one’s own achievements,
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the achievements of those with whom one is closely
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associated, or from qualities or possessions
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that are widely admired.
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I googled that one.
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But for black, well, I’ll let Azie define that.
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– Okay, basically, slavery took humans
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across the Atlantic Ocean to the Western Hemisphere.
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Tactics included mixing people up and stripping them
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of their unique ethnic or geographical identity
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and referring to them exclusively by skin tone.
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Over time, diverse languages faded away
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and specific ethnic identities were erased.
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Descendants of enslaved African emerged
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with new cultures, based on new regions,
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but still unified by the atrocities of slavery.
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What that means is in the US,
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black is both an ethnicity and a race.
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– Wow.
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You did that.
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That was perfect.
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Okay, so together, black pride is choosing
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to celebrate the things that are socially,
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culturally, and were even legally deemed undesirable,
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negative, or illegitimate.
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Black pride has everything to do
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with embracing yourself and nothing
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to do with hating someone else.
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No tiki torches are involved.
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– The unofficial anthem of the black pride movement
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in the United States belongs to the Godfather of Soul,
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James Brown. (snapping fingers)
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The year is 1968. – That was a year, y’all.
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– We’re comin’ fresh off superstar athlete,
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Muhammad Ali publically refusing to be drafted
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into the Vietnam War, anti-war riots intensified,
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Martin Luther King is assassinated,
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and Richard Nixon is gonna become the president.
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– And just like celebrities now might feel pressure
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to take a public, political stance,
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we can imagine that popular black entertainers
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in the ’60s and ’70s faced a similar dilemma.
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James Brown was not makin’ those songs to march to.
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But according to his autobiography,
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a grenade was left at his doorstep
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by who he believes were black militant activists.
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– They tried to kill him? – Oh, not quite.
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The pin was still in the grenade,
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so it looks like they just wanted to scare him.
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And it worked because the next night he wrote
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Say Loud I’m Black and I’m Proud.
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– Wait, so this reluctant song goes on
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to become a massive hit.
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– Oh, yeah, it was number one
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on the R&B; charts for over a month,
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and piqued at number 10 on the Billboard Hot 100.
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Black folks didn’t want to be polite
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about discrimination any more.
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After all, the biggest advocate of nonviolence
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was just murdered.
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– Shouting I’m black and I’m proud was the public statement
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those alleged militants probably wanted.
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It joined the ranks of black is beautiful,
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and other messaging that sought
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to encourage a group of people who had every reason
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to feel otherwise.
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– If you want to learn more
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about what James Brown actually thought
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about the song and its impact,
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we’ll link some resources below.
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Spoiler, he wasn’t too pleased.
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– And neither am I; I’m really hot.
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– Yeah, it’s kinda, you want to get outta this?
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– Yes, please. (snapping fingers)
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Now, we know what black pride is and where it comes from,
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but is there a place for racial pride today?
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– Oh, are we sharing personal opinions, or–
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– Sure, let it flow.
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– Okay, well, I think as long as someone lives
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in a society where they’re associated
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with negative traits, there will always be a need
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to remind yourself that you’re valuable.
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– Historically, we’ve not been in control of our image.
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Black pride is a way to reclaim authority
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over how we’re seen to ourselves and to the world.
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Ideas like Black Girl Magic, Black Boy Joy,
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and perhaps, the most contentious, Black Lives Matter,
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are all different manifestations of black pride.
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– Hashtag, melanin Mondays, hashtag, black love.
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We should really do a black Twitter episode.
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Let us know in the comments if
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that’s something you’d like to learn more about.
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– I think, even like Beyonce’s Lemonade, and Beychella.
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Both performances boldly incorporated imagery
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and references from black American experiences.
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And although some might think
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mentioning your race is divisive,
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black people in America are at a unique position.
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Our culture is also our race.
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Having black pride is similar to marching
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in the Saint Patrick’s Day parade if you’re Irish,
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or giving the salutation of your people if you’re Vulcan.
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– Vulcan is not an– – I think that black pride
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shows that our histories are intertwined.
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You can’t have your pop star without a little hot sauce
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sprinkled on the top,
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and you can’t tell the story of America
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without also telling the story of black folks.
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– You know that feeling when you watch the Olympics
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and you root for athletes despite their country?
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That’s a form of black pride.
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(crowd cheering)
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– Iceland, go Iceland. – You go people there?
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I don’t think we got people there.
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– What, no? – For me,
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it’s when a black girl in the grocery store,
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or a gas station, or public restroom
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compliments my features.
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It’s like, I stand a little taller.
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– Black pride movements will continue to take new forms
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as technology, current events and pop culture shifts.
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The history of this country is such that loving the skin
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that you’re in is considered controversial.
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So, if you’re gonna say it, you might as well say it loud.
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– Comment below and tell us
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what black pride means to you.
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And do you think it’s still relevant today?
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Subscribe, follow social media, et cetera.
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– And we’ll see you next week.
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– [Evelyn And Azie In Unison] Bye.
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