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@typhon
But remember that everyone exists within a society that genders rape. Not everyone has been exposed to the same influences as you. This person is tired of women being blamed for their rape because of what they wore; that’s a gendered problem. But they’ve responded in a way that reveals a different gendered problem. So, you tell them why that was wrong and hopefully open someone’s eyes.
Don’t ‘fuck SlutWalk.’ This person is not their representative.
I’d stand next to her with a sign that says, “… But Remind Women That They Can’t Rape So Go Ahead And Do Whatever You Want”
Here’s one reason why I would never attend a SlutWalk.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp2vvkev3C1qd3igio1_500.png
“Don’t Tell Women What To Wear; Tell Men Not To Rape.”
Because that would end rape. Ayup. It would.
It’s nice I’m finally in a place where marginalizing shit like this no longer makes me feel like killing myself. Now I just laugh. And hope the human race atomizes itself with nuclear war.
Fuck you, SlutWalk.
“There just aren’t words for that type of cruelty. How can you have someone’s life hanging in the balance, the person incapacitated and sedated… This is a dark and horrible day.”
Dosteyevsky described a scenario like that and had his character ask another if he could imagine a torture more horrible – and this was in Tsarist Russia!
Someone has pointed out the geographic pattern of these capital punishment states. There is one, and it’s unsurprising. I had expected better from Georgia, but I was wrong.
Well, I gotta belie your sample size. Because I’m actually pretty happy about the whole trans thing… to me it doesn’t mean less-than, or pseudo… it just means that I had to work to have my gender recognized… now that doesn’t mean I’m not pissed off by some of the after-effects of my first puberty (I’d kill to be shorter) but yes, while I want to be seen as a woman, I’m not going to pretend that the first twenty-six years of my life didn’t happen, and for that matter, those years don’t invalidate my womanhood. If anything they validate… Read more »
I actually asked a couple of trans women (because I really don’t know!) if they would rather be thought of as part of a “trans” community or just completely integrated and never have anyone know that they transitioned. The responses I got were a universal “I’d rather not be identified as trans.” Which to me made the concept of a trans community very, very interesting. Personally I only refer to people as “trans” when it’s important to do so… which is very rarely. Like, for example, if it was someone that my friends knew their entire life, and I was… Read more »
So a friend of mine got me emotionally sucked into the michfest forums… I think this line says it all:
If you want us to refer to “trans women” in two words, then stop redefining the word “women” or “womyn” to include trans.
You have to love the sheer tautologic of that.
By the by, I have to give props to U. of Chicago and Cornell for making the paper publicly available. All too often this kind of stuff is behind a paywall and let’s face it, science reporting in the mainstream press is TOTALLY ABYSMAL. It’s like, not even worth discussing the majority of scientific studies on the basis of whatever wide-eyed breathless claptrap is reported in the press. My goodness is it a breath of fresh air to be talking about this study after having read it 🙂
@typhon, exactly, the study seems to me to be an EXTREMELY preliminary and exploratory study. At the end, you’ll see that they have a bunch of follow-up questions raised by the study, for others to consider working on. Not that this is a problem; my bachelor’s thesis was an exploratory study and similarly rooted in the super-theoretical parts of theory, plus a few interviews which I attempted to interpret according to a few different frameworks. That’s because the particular area of inquiry I was studying was brand new and there was very little work to build off of. Note that… Read more »
I’ve also talked a lot about why women succeed in the school system but so far have not succeeded in business. I believe firmly that the two are connected. You see, women are taught to be meek. In school one must sit down, be silent, stay still, and absorb everything that’s talked at them. Frierre describes education as “suffering from narration sickness.” The ADD “epidemic” really also goes along with this: boys are something like 8 times more likely to be diagnosed (do we really think that 8 times as many boys as girls have a mental disorder genetically?) with… Read more »
@F with regards to the feministing post, here’s my interpretation of events: Scientist: “Wow. Abusive and controlling women leave lasting psychological scars that can lead to erectile dysfunction.” NYT: “Women challenging men’s fragile egos causes erectile dysfunction!” Feministing: “HOW DARE YOU SAY IT’S WOMEN’S FAULT! IT’S ALL ACTUALLY THE MEN’S FAULT!” If you superimpose the first and third article you might get pissed off that Feministing is saying that psychological abuse from a female on a male is a) not an issue and b) actually the man’s fault, that insensitive prick. If you superimpose the second and the third article,… Read more »
@ f ” […] to a domineering female partner who insists on acting as a gatekeeper for the household, to an ego who is poorly connected in the first place and whose main source of social contact is his spouse’s own confidants.” Wouldn’t it have been nice if the researchers had actually controlled for the different types of ‘betweenness’? Because, as it stands, this result seems to be completely pointless. The association with erectile dysfunction could easily be due to: 1) A reaction to being abused. 2) A result of whatever problem that’s making the man socially shy in the… Read more »
Here’s a cool little site:
http://www.drawastickman.com/
And Hanna Rosin is at it again:
http://intelligencesquaredus.org/index.php/past-debates/men-are-finished
The good thing about Ms Rosin is that regardless of whatever she’s peddling(I don’t consider her a feminist), she’s forcing awkward things like the boy-education issue into a lot of people’s faces.
Going back to Troy Davis for a moment… damn, I just read the first article about how the execution was stayed for 3 hours, while he was strapped to a gurney and waiting for the verdict, and THEN the verdict that killed him came down from the SC.
There just aren’t words for that type of cruelty. How can you have someone’s life hanging in the balance, the person incapacitated and sedated… This is a dark and horrible day.
I agree TB. Its nothing but a shaming and silencing tactic. Oh and can we put in “fee fees” while we’re at it?
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typhon, what we have here is a case of a feminist blog taking a totally ridonkulous piece of science reporting by the NYT and running with it. I agree that you can connect the idea of “fragile male ego” to the idea that men are just being so oversensitive when they complain of abusive behavior – I think you are on to something there. But this study is not actually about what you, Feministing or the NYT are getting out of it: http://news.uchicago.edu/sites/all/files/attachments/AJS_networkPos.pdf Here’s how the study describes “partner betweenness”, the behavior linked to erectile dysfunction in the study. There… Read more »
they studied men 57-85? It’s possible a good portion of those men would have had ED regardless of any other factors.
But on your larger point, I agree. The phrase “fragile male ego” needs to go away and go away quickly.
I think a discussion about the phrase ‘fragile male ego’ and it’s relation to excusing abusive female behavior has to happen.
Let’s imagine two scenarios.
A man hits a woman. She’s upset because he’s an abuser who’s violating her boundaries.
A woman hits a man. He’s upset because his ‘fragile male ego’ can’t handle being dominated by a woman.
The phrase ‘fragile male ego’ is essentially used to shame the process of men establishing healthy boundaries in their relationships.
I found something interesting. No, wait, I lie. It’s horrifying: http://feministing.com/2011/09/20/mens-egos-so-fragile-the-wrong-friendships-will-lead-to-erectile-dysfunction/#comments Gist of it is that a study found men who’s wives control or gate-keep their friendships have erectile difficulty. This is, of course, blamed on men’s fragile egos. Since his wife isn’t respecting his autonomy, he doesn’t see himself as a man. I find this whole framing extremely disturbing. Controlling access to someone’s friends is a red flag for ABUSE. If it was men controlling a woman’s access to her friends we wouldn’t attribute her subsequent lack of sexual feeling towards him as a result of her ‘fragile female… Read more »
Hannah Rosin was the one who forced her barely pubescent son and daughter to debate “which gender is superior” then filmed and posted it on the internet for all the world to see. (incidentally, she declared her daughter- who has a roughly three advantage in maturity- the winner. Shocker.)Why should I believe she’s anything other than a certified misandrist? She’s given no actual indication she finds any of the things in her article at all regretable. Indeed, there’s a lot of fist pumping, back-slapping “you go grrl” attitude.
Here’s a nice blogpost by a woman on her own mommy-blocking. sweet tone and a nice balance. Nice, civilized comments too.
http://www.babble.com/baby/baby-care/shared-parenting-skills-baby-and-dad/index.aspx#fbConnectSection
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2011/9/20/12757/3131
Aaaaaaaaaaand, here’s the “old guard” Progressive take. Trust me, BTD very does think that “man box” is just the sweetest place to be.
@EE, I think that’s starting to happen now. That’s not to say that everything will be awesome between masculinists and feminists in general. Lots of womanists don’t have the least interest in engaging with certain types of feminism, to this day, and I certainly see why. But feminism without liberation for men is something I suspect most feminists have come to see as impossible. Now, the specifics will be the subject of bitter fights for a long time, but I do hope and believe that men and women can come to understand each other better in the places where these… Read more »