
We keep searching for ways to define ourselves and our masculinity. Steven Lake examines how societal change and men’s view of themselves affect relationships.
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Most of us think that the changing roles between men and women is a recent phenomenon. Not so. Playwrights like Strindberg in the late 1800’s were writing about the inequities that women suffered at that time and the challenges men faced with women’s push to change the status quo.
I have lived through a time of massive shift in the options available for women in relationships and work. My mother went in and out of the workforce while she raised two children but she worked for most of the time that I was living at home (my dad worked full-time). My aunt was a medical doctor and I heard stories of how my grandmother had her own business as a dress-maker and my great aunts taught piano.
These were the stories I grew up with about women – they were creative, worked, and had businesses.
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His authority was backed-up with “the look” and if need be, physical punishment.
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But my lens was not in the majority at that time. When I looked around, I saw most women in my community being at home mothers. I was brought up to treat women with respect and because my mother was strong-willed I saw her fight for what she wanted when in conflict with my father.
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My father was a man of his times and lived up to the stereotype of male masculinity. He was a physical presence, being over 200 pounds of pure muscle and a weight-lifting champion, he commanded young men when he was assigned to work at a military college, and it was clear he was the boss at home even if he was the silent type. His authority was backed-up with “the look” and if need be, physical punishment.
How my mother and father related when in conflict was also stereotypical. Even though my mother would voice her desires, if they were not met she would cry, he would go silent, and that was that. I am not sure what went on behind closed doors, but this is what my brother and I saw. In the big issues, my father seemed to be the boss and his decisions held sway.
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Times have changed. According to the US Department of Labor, women make up almost half the workforce. We have seen women in the last twenty years move into management positions in large numbers and it is not uncommon for men to have women as their bosses.
More women now graduate from college and university than men in all categories including associate, bachelor, master’s and doctoral degrees according to the US Department of Education. This phenomenon is not limited to North America, it is being replicated globally with some countries (e.g., Iceland, Poland) having women comprise two-thirds of the graduates.
What has this got to do with you and me? Well, for women, their chances of marrying someone at the same educational level drops. In Australia, “one in four of degree-educated women in their 30s are expected to miss out in finding a suitable partner of similar age and educational level – something men and women have traditionally avoided – or not marrying at all.”1
This is where the rubber hits the road when, as research indicates, educated women are less inclined to stay in unhealthy relationships. They don’t have to depend on men economically and probably have been educated to expect proper and decent treatment from the males in their lives. And so they should.
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Let’s break this down by demographics. Men over 50, the last of the Boomers, most of whom have been raised with old-style traditional concepts of masculinity, are going to be in trouble if they find themselves in the dating scene due to divorce or death of their spouse, especially if they decide, and this is not uncommon, to date women 10-20 years their junior.
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If you find yourself in the Boomer category, it might be time to have a conversation with your partner and discuss your needs and expectations as you move into the “Golden Years” before it is too late.
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Even if they date women of the same age group, these women have not grown up in a vacuum and have different expectations than they did thirty years ago. With experience on their side, many are unwilling to be in anything other than an equal and mutually satisfying relationship.
For Boomers who are married, they must beware the changing times. Older women, are now divorcing in unprecedented numbers. Even women in the seventies and eighties are fed up with their men who after retirement are hanging around the house, have no social circles, and are complaining how their wives are looking after the house.
If you find yourself in the Boomer category, it might be time to have a conversation with your partner and discuss your needs and expectations as you move into the “Golden Years” before it is too late.
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Moving down a generation to men born between 1965 and 1979, Generation X. I see a lot of men in my private practice in their early to late forties. As a group, they seem to have suffered the most from the changing roles of masculinity. My generation (Boomer) was at the very beginning of these changes epitomized by flower power, alternate lifestyles, and expanded ways of being and expressing oneself in the world. The “corporate man” was dropped as being the height of male success.
Generation X took the full brunt of the social changes sweeping through the Zeitgeist of the times. Women became an active and strong social force affecting society in measurable ways. These changes swept over Generation X men as they were entering the workforce for the first time and negotiating with women for sex and relationship.
The power dynamics were in flux, and for many men of this generation, they seem to have been hamstrung by not getting the updated manual. The speed of change was just too fast for them to integrate what was happening.
This was the first generation actively competing with women for the same jobs when starting on their career path. In relationship, the Gen Xers I know and see as clients, seem resigned and unable to come to terms with women.
There is a sense, at least among the single men, that it is just not worth the hassle. Sure, they will go online, they might get lucky, but there is no real hope that it will become a long-term relationship. And if it does, the expectation is that it will flounder on some unfathomable problem focused on the intrinsic incompatibilities between the sexes.
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Generation Y has grown up with the gains and changes made in the sixties and seventies in place for some time.
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Men were seen as cool having an androgynous look and being in touch with their feminine side.
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Their generation did not fight for all the changes that were accrued before them and many see the current situation as just the way it is, because that is the world into which they were born.
This world has seen the rise of the metro-sexual. A movement away from sharply defined differences between what constitutes male and female. Men were seen as cool having an androgynous look and being in touch with their feminine side.
Most recently, there has been a cultural backlash to this look. Men with beards are becoming de-riguer. Interesting. This is the one area where men, who can grow a beard, can identify themselves as different from women. First, it was the 2-3 day stubble that has been in men’s fashion magazines for some time. And just recently, there is a top model sporting a full beard.
Pamela Morris in her article about beards cited researchers at the University of New South Wales who found that women are preferring men with beards (but not stubble). Furthermore, in an eBay Fashion survey, 75% of men liked beards. Even at my age, I have been on the receiving end of female attraction by much younger women when I grew a beard. Something’s going on here but what it is ain’t exactly clear.
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I will leave you with one last thought on this topic. Two or three times a year I teach a Master’s level class to fifteen people, mostly women, the majority of whom are between the ages of 25 and 35. When talking about the challenges between the sexes, the same issue comes up that women have been telling me for the past twenty years – men have difficulty communicating with women.
No matter what generation you belong to, no matter what the changing roles of masculinity have become, this issue remains constant. Even if we get to a clearly defined understanding of masculinity, and all that it entails, what good does it do us if we cannot communicate on a fundamental level. This reminds me of the old saying, the more things change, the more they stay the same.
1. Joseph Chamie, YaleGlobal, 6 March 2014 http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/women-more-educated-men-still-paid-less-men
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Btw. Y’know how if you’re an 3 you probably wouldn’t attract an 8? Wouldn’t it be nice in relationship to know i am a msm60 so you could decide if thats the type of person you want in context of what you think you want in a partner? If you want the proverbial hehe-man really then do us both a favor and not date me. Saves us both time and trouble. If i want a fsf45 because i like a real outdoorsy gal and competitive or whatever then don’t try to fool me into thinking your thinking i want an… Read more »
Sorry for not finishing my post. I will repeat Yeah, that refresh thing is quite irritating. Agreed that the marrying of close relations has been acceptable in many cultures especially where either populations are small or there is a desire to preserve wealth in the family – a friend of mine’s parents are cousins. However, I have never heard of sibling or parent-child relations being acceptable in any culture. Populations in many so called progressive Western countries are declining (only being assisted by migrants). Japan is currently experiencing a crisis as a result of a population that is too old.… Read more »
Thanks for the comment thanda. I agree with much you said too. The Egyptian dynasty, and the romans wrre two where i thought of immediately when i thought of the common practice of sibling marriage, the hapsburgs too which ultimately led to our “discovery” og genetics by looking at their offspring and the miscreation as a result of too close in breeding. These royal marriages were for keeping the power all in the family i think But what i mean about the gender binary is simply not straight or gay attraction. It is at least a 3 part function of… Read more »
Ok. I was pretty sure where you stood on the issue with your first post and the second confirmed it. Thats ok you’re clearly against same sex biology. Having said that only about 15% of human population is gay. And that includes bisexual. Therefore i hardly think that that small of a population is going to substantially impact the progression of the species. In fact there is more of an argument that it is beneficial to the continuation of the species since it tends to slow population growth. However that too is untenable since the numbers are too low as… Read more »
Yeah, that refresh thing is quite irritating.
Agreed that the marrying of close relations has been acceptable in many cultures where either populations are small or there is a desire to preserve wealth in the family – a friend of mine’s parents are cousins. However, I have never heard of sibling or parent-child relations being acceptable in any culture.
Populations in many so called progressive Western countries are declining (only being assisted by migrants). Japan is currently experiencing a crisis as a result of a population that is too old. China has recently rescinded
Whwre did you get many men would want to be gay were it not blocked by the man box? I said nothing of the sort. Either yiu are already gay or straight by nature and man box or no that’s not changing. What i did say was whether many homophobic saying and feeling were rooted in the herd mentality of staying in one’s place, anger at those who step out of it and a lame attempt to shove them back in line or call them deviant for having the audacity to live their lives as they want to rather than… Read more »
“What i did say was whether many homophobic saying and feeling were rooted in the herd mentality of staying in one’s place, anger at those who step out of it and a lame attempt to shove them back in line or call them deviant for having the audacity to live their lives as they want to rather than what in this case says the man box tells them how they should live.” Perhaps, or maybe they just think it’s wrong – like marrying your sister or mother. Some things are just perceived by most people as being wrong.Think about that… Read more »
I must step in here, to saythat I disagree with “straight or gay by nature”. I believe that the urge to procreate (have sex with a possibility of creating offspring), and the enjoyment of (any) sexual contact, are instinctive. Also, the urge to bond long-term with a suitable reproductive partner is an instinct which permits humans to have an unprecedentedly long adolescence, contributing to development of cognition and intelligence. Beyond that, I feel that the practice of making a hard choice (“I’m 100% [straight/gay]”) is mostly the result of cultural immersion, lifelong exposure to prejudices and expectations in our society… Read more »
As evidence of the impact of cultural norms on people’s behavior and preferences, let me suggest that in ancient Greece, the lack of cultural norms forbidding homosexuality, facilitated a widespread cultural and individual practice of male apprenticeship that included significant sexual contact between the apprentice and his teacher. We see that today as abhorrent, statutory rape – judging it in the context of our cultural norms – but it was “normal” from the perspective of the ancient Greeks. Now, I’m not arguing for a return to a “sex with adolescents” paradigm, just noting that Greece was the premier civilization in… Read more »
Something that just occurred to me and i wonder if there is any validity to it. Other than a rather small but vociferous far right folks cherry picking through the bible who cite that as why homosexuality is so wrong, i wonder if culturally gay folk have had so much push back in modern times is because of that man box. They dared to step out of it and the view sees them as much braver or at least more free to express themselves and simply can’t stand it that someone else can and they are trspped in their own… Read more »
I think most people perceive being gay as being wrong for mostly instinctive reasons: Namely, that each believes they have a responsibility to perpetuate the human race and being gay would generally prevent that. Those feeling are certainly not culture or nurture: it is biological and nature. Those who believe in the bible just have a few more verses to back up their original thought anyway. This is backed up by the fact that almost every culture on earth views being gay as wrong regardless of religious affiliation if any. I think it would be a far stretch to assume… Read more »
YES!
I agree with you completely, Amy. Perhaps our views of masculinity are much to a degee self limiting. But alot of that could be because the world at large has such strong boundaries that for the individual to break out of them is met with strong resistance. Women had a movement that supported the infrastructure and backbone for change. Every time a men’s movement of any soet started many times it was labeled misogynist or some other term that the men just didn’t argue strong enough for it to continue. Or worse yet the world laughed at those who tried… Read more »
Men have trouble communicating with women because they have been brainwashed not to argue with women and to never argue with a women. I think some bad/evil women came up with that in order to control men because they don’t like men to beat them in a verbal confrontation. Many women don’t want to hear what a man has to say and shuts them down both physically and verbally. Many women don’t treat their men as equal partners in a marriage and many men stated that they let their wives get their way by shutting up. Sad way to maintain… Read more »
Stop this unhealthy obsession and constant searching for ways to pin down masculinity, what its tenets are, and what it means to be a man today vs. yesterday. It will only lead to more stress, anxiety, inadequacy, and feelings of worthlessness as more and more of you fail to meet the ever elusive standards of what it means to be a man. Give it a rest! You don’t see women trying to constantly pin down and define femininity which is part of the reason why they (we) have more latitude to adopt whatever hobbies, attire, ambitions, or academic pursuits we… Read more »
I must disagree. Men need to examine the assumptions and prejudices which define masculinity as an oppressive, restrictive “man box”, SO WE CAN find the cracks in the walls and thus identify the most efficient places to apply the sledgehammer and knock the walls down.
Sorry, my comment was not meant to be a reply to you but a comment on the article.
Marriage for men has always been slavery. Society shamed men into providing for and protecting women and her children. In days past, a man that didn’t have a wife had difficulty finding employment and one that didn’t provide for a woman’s children was deemed defective. Men were also sent to war to fight and die for their rights – rights that were given to women without any cost. Men that didn’t go to war were branded cowards – by both men and women. These things are still somewhat true today, but more and more, men are standing up to this… Read more »
Misandrynomore—thank you for expressing. Your words resonate big-time.
HER children?
Isn’t it interesting how we overlay current notions over the past? I am quite sure that a main point of classical patriarchy (2000 years ago or 200 years ago, doesn’t matter) was that the children most assuredly were his children. If they were “legitimate” — which was the reason for that concept. Now we do not think in terms of trueborn children and bastards any more (undoubtably progress), but on the other hand in some places “family” is defined as “a woman and her children”. Also I often notice how motherhood is seen as a (almost sacred) biological role, but… Read more »
“Marriage for men has always been slavery.” Well, let’s consider that wives were their husband’s property, men could legally beat and rape their wife, they were able to own all her property and earnings, and it wasn’t until 1974 that women could even have a credit card in their own name. Yes, marriage when it was a duty (really, just the 1940s-’50s, a tiny blip on the marital landscape) demanded that men be the providers, but marriage for women was not only slavery, but it often was deadly.
Now that’s a big question Silke. First, men communicate fine with other men. Second, men and women have been socialized to put value on different things in life. Men, and I am speaking generally here, put value on status, hierarchies, and acquisition (these are some of the issues that GMP is actively challenging). Third, as boys, men have been taught to control emotional expression and that being vulnerable was weakness and being like women. You can see the problem with this belief. Society has trained men to devalue emotions/women and this affects how many men communicate with women. Even if… Read more »
1. Men seek to acquire status, wealth etc, because despite all the changes for women that is still what makes or breaks a mans competitiveness on the dating market 2. Men express emotions – you and all your other gender chronies refuse to see it because its not how women do it. This is the woman=good, man=bad trope. Look through out history of men expressing emotions – song writers, poets, novelists, artists, comedians etc. Are these people not displaying emotion? Why is the female version of emotion the gold standard. 3. Who is it that is teaching men to devalue… Read more »
I thought communication was a two-way process by its very definition.
Why do we default to blame the man when the communication isn’t working?
Hi Steven
What is your explanation about why so many men have difficulties communicating with women?