It is 2016 in the United States of America, and guess what’s trending on Twitter?
#repealthe19th
As in the 19th Amendment. (That’s the one that gives women the right to vote).
That’s right. Trump supporters are reacting to a new poll released by Nate Silver that indicates that if only men voted, Trump would win overwhelmingly. In their warped little minds—and I do mean little—the solution is clear:
“Killary can’t win! Only Trump can lead us. Let’s strip woman of their voting rights. Boom. Problem solved.”
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It is 2016 in the United States of America, and people at Trump rallies are being whipped up into a frenzy by Trump’s threat to jail his political opponent. People are chanting “Hang her in the streets.”
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It is 2016 in the United States of America, and there are men who take their wife and daughters to Trump rallies, while wearing their “Hillary is a Cunt” t-shirts.
This guy, at the rally with his wife and three kids, in his “She’s A Cunt, Vote For Trump” shirt. pic.twitter.com/NDQMz1uteG
— Sally Kohn (@sallykohn) October 11, 2016
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But let’s get back to #repealthe19th for just a moment more.
Can it really be true that if only men voted, Trump would be our President?
Here is the Nate Silver poll:
Here’s what the map would look line if only women voted: https://t.co/sjVY67qouE pic.twitter.com/rrc3GuXmGl
Don’t like ads? Become a supporter and enjoy The Good Men Project ad free— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) October 11, 2016
And here’s if just dudes voted. pic.twitter.com/HjqJzIVwc4
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) October 11, 2016
How can the majority of men in the United States of America in 2016 be supporting a man who so clearly is unfit to be President, on oh so many levels, and a man who is a pox on our own gender?
OK, so there are some racists. Some bigots. Some white supremacists. Some Neo-Nazis. You know, “the deplorables.”
But most men? Supporting this guy. I’m left shaking my head.
In fact, if this is true, I may need to look to associate with a new gender. And that seems even harder than starting a third major political party.
The Trump Campaign has reached DefCon Level 1.
But do we need to be sounding the warning bells for Men too?
What do you think?
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Give men a break, as a woman, this is the result of feminism. To tear down men, it’s been going on for years.
As a woman I would not and will not vote for Hillary Clinton. I don’t cast my vote based on a breaking some imaginary glass ceiling. I have no desire to live in a GOD-LESS Society.
Blaming women or feminism for all of the problems in society doesn’t seem like a reasoned or sensible way forward.
Give men a break, as a woman, this is the result of feminism. To tear down men, it’s been going on for years.
As a woman I would not and will not vote for Hillary Clinton. I don’t cast my vote based on a breaking some imaginary glass ceiling. I have no desire to live in a GOD-LESS Society.
I think this is all a bit of a scare tactic and since its painting men as the bad guys its deemed okay. I really don’t understand the polls in question (but I have a hard time understanding almost any political poll) but I am curious as to how they concluded that most men would support Trump. But one thing I do notice is that instead of asking why those men support Trump they are just being demonized as usual and used as fodder to drum up support for Clinton. And it doesn’t hurt that women are once again seen… Read more »
I assume that disassociating from men is meant facetiously. I’ve joked about moving to Canada if Trump is elected. But really I don’t want to surrender so easily. Nate Silver’s post is sensationalist, so I don’t feel the need to sound any alarm bells. Men support Trump? Which men? Do African-American men support Trump? What about Latino men? Do most Millennial men plan to vote for Trump? Silver doesn’t drill down. People who cast a ballot are notably older than eligible voters in general. And more white than the average American. Might demographic shifts over time alter men’s voting patterns?… Read more »
Yes. It was meant very facetiously. Just like moving to Canada….
For the record Defcon 5 is the lowest and Defcon 1 is the highest. So based on your reference the Trump campaign would be at 1.
Thank you – someone else just pointed this error out to me and I am correcting now! 🙂
Thank you for revealing yourself as someone who isn’t worth my time.
Wow are you missing the point. Intentionally, I think. This isn’t about a guy wearing a t-shirt. It’s about a movement based on hate, conspriracy theories, and othering. It’s toxic and it’s disgusting. And if you want to associate yourself with it, go right ahead. Not me.
Right. Because I’m willing to call liberals on their bullshit it MUST mean I support the conservatives in theirs.
step beyond the tribalism for five seconds, please.
Let’s try that one more time. Because this is WELL beyond liberal vs. conservative. That is exactly my point:
This isn’t about a guy wearing a t-shirt. It’s about a movement based on hate, conspriracy theories, and othering. It’s toxic and it’s disgusting. And if you want to associate yourself with it, go right ahead. Not me.
Can you not read?
“Right. Because I’m willing to call liberals on their bullshit it MUST mean I support the conservatives in theirs.”
please do tell how you read that I’m “willing to associate myself with that” out of anything I’ve *actually* said.
Nice try but the myopia around here is really strong. I had a guy shaming me for giving time and money charitably while not supporting wealth redistribution. Apparently I’m a jerk because I give without a govt gun pointed at my head.
I doubt the chart is accurate at all. If only men voted, I’d probably change my vote from Trump to Stein because I think the other candidates become immediately more viable.
Lol holy shit, y’all jumped on that right quick. What’s the matter? A bunch of Libs in “Palin is a c*nt” Tshirts undermined your point too much? I mean I know lefties don’t like playing by their own rules but wow.
Actually, no. That was also inappropriate and misogynistic. It was wrong when people referred to her that way and it’s wrong that people are doing it to Hillary now. What about this article leads you to believe the author would support calling any woman this name?
The fact it’s only ever talked about when conservatives do it. Just like there wasn’t a peep when multiple women received slaps on the wrist for raping children, but dozens of articles about Brock Turner. Or that GMP talked about Duggar molesting his sister but ignored it when Lena Dunham admitted to doing the same thing. Shall I go on? Chris Evans made a joke about a fictional female character and this site lost its sh*t but Leslie Mann makes sexual comments to a man right to his face and this “pro men” site didn’t say boo (just like the… Read more »
You might want to stop trolling and start writing. There is no left wing conspiracy against men. You’re just being selective in ignoring what you want to ignore. And its weak. We’ve written about the bad behavior of women and double standards the other way. E.g., Hope Solo https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/domestic-violence-is-gender-blind-hope-taught-me-that-wasl/ or Bill Mahrs comments on sexual abuse of boys https://goodmenproject.com/ethics-values/sexual-abuse-boys-getting-lucky-media-needs-stop-promoting-myth-hesaid/
@ Michael Kasdan I’ve been reading GMP for maybe 4 or 5 years now and I read how passionately people have spoken about men’s violence against women. I’ve read countless articles on the Brock Turner incident, yet the only thing mentioned about the Chantae Gilman incident were a few comments I made and one Danny made noting that I was the only one to bring it up. Sire, there’s a random article here or there, which never accuses women as a group or demands group accountability and rarely focuses on the perpetrators if they are women. I understand what you’re… Read more »
I think it doesn’t help that he had reach for articles over a year old to show his point. The article on Hope was published nearly a year after she committed the abuse. And the other 8ball did comment on, but got no response.
For the love of God. This is just silly.
https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/men-are-victims-too-recognizing-and-dealing-with-abuse-wcz/
https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/yes-men-can-victims-domestic-violence-elwwt/
As I said, and I say this to all the commenters, feel free to join the conversation. Write an article. Respond to a writing prompt. Do something other than sit here in this comments section throwing stones.
I do attempt to join the conversation but for some reason my attempts have a tendency to be ignored.
Don’t get upset and call it “throwing stones” just because you’re being asked to back your claims. And you’re still having to reach into the past to back them, which is kinda the point.
How many articles were there on Brock Turner’s case alone compared to how many articles there are on male victims all together?
This is my point. Tell me, if I could find one or two quotes where Trump was being supportive of women, would that be enough to convince you he wasn’t a misogynist? I’m guessing not.
Men have a right to speak up against male bashing. Michael, you seem to think only comments that praise your articles should be allowed.
When your daily readers are unanimous in calling out a pattern of bias you’re probably biased. What’s silly is digging a deeper hole when you’re already in over your head.
You keep ingnoring the questions by the way. I have another one for you- why no brouhaha about Sam Ukuachu? Same crime. Same sentence. More prominent athlete than dirtbag Turner.
Everyone sees it- keep tilting at windmills though
Oh well! A single article on Hope Solo! (Who I didn’t even mention at all) I guess that makes up for completely ignoring those other situations and posting a dozen redundant articles on a single case as if Brock Turner is somehow the universal male representative.
Nobody said conspiracy except you, but nice try.
There are many many articles – those are but a few examples – but you are seem intent on being selective to support whatever conspiracy theory you’re advancing. (Oops there’s that word again!) Its not a good look, nor is it remotely persuasive. Nor does it advance the conversation. Neither does personally attacking me or the Good Men Project.
I’ve seen many of those as well. And I’ve heard many men call other conservative women the same thing, and worse.
Which is the point, it’s quite alright to attack women who are not Feminist.
But even looking at our advertising, and listening to music how do these singers both men and women present women??
Well, this is depressing.
“And although we adore men individually, we agree that as a group they’re rather stupid.”
Richard M. Sherman (Mary Poppins)
We think you’re pretty amusing too.
I’m sorry, I meant amazing. Must have been a yoogle, gahoo, Iphony, thingy.
Seems there is less bias with men voting for the thug, then there is women voting for the criminal. We could easily turn this around if we had an axe to grind against women, rather then men. or, could it be that men seek more “hard solutions” such as infrastructure, immigration, defense, foreign policy, and men’s issues such as the failure of our educational system for our boys, male wages (lower then they were 40 years ago) and jobs? Could it be that women are more prone to social services and women’s issues such as abortion, and glass ceiling? I… Read more »
Except for the fact that she’s not “a criminal.”
I also can’t buy into your comment because Trump has advocated no “hard solutions” for anything, knows nothing about defense or foreign policy, and hasn’t touched infrastructure, unless you count building a wall.
I also can’t see how this is a “hey men and women can’t we all just get along issue,” when its men who are supporting the candidate of white supremacy and authoritarianism.
He said it all in the first debate, Michael. Were you listening to that part, or just the mud slinging that came from both? I’m actual, whether you believe it or not, trying to get my head around your assertion here, but you are arguing blind male bias when the charts you’ve posted demonstrate a greater female bias toward your favored candidate. What I do see is bias, extreme bias, from our side, or our far left side pointing out every negative flaw of Trumps that were ignored when Bill Clinton was doing the same. How is groping women any… Read more »
1. Who is “we”? I never sought to cover up any of Bill Clinton’s wrongs.
2. Bill Clinton isn’t running for President.
3. Who’s arguing “male bias” – I am making no assertion other than supporting Trump for President is disgusting. And I stand by that assertion.
“Blowing up the Republican Party Is One Thing — But What Does All This Say About Men?” “Michael Kasdan is left considering having to de-associate from his gender. Et tu Men?” _____________________ Jesus, Michael. Lets at least be honest with each other if we are going to argue points. The entire thesis was a rant about male bias and an opportunity to male bash. What’s next, “I did not have sex with that woman?” ok, I’m ribbing you a bit there, but really, the “we” is the same congregation of the church of progressive worship that ignored Bil when he… Read more »
DJ Trying to have an honest discussion with someone like MK is pointless. These people are some of the most closed-minded people to ever inhabit the planet. Their policies have killed and literally enslaved millions of people (socialism and communism). They hold them selves out to uber moral yet at the same time are the leading proponents of decadence in society. During the debate, Hillary Clinton talked about religious freedom blah blah blah……no one is a greater enemy of religion than liberals and people like Hillary Clinton. The most recent wiki leaks release contain disparaging emails regarding Catholics and other… Read more »
Hey Jules – How about you stop with the personal attacks.
Laughable…You’re not worth the energy. You have nothing but lies and polemics.
What human enslavement you are referring to? Certainly, not the enslavement with regards to human sex trafficking nor corporate enslavement of the human race around the world. You guys and gals got nothing except a lot of hot air and all hypocrisy. Conservatives are the greatest enemy of religion when you look at how they use it to justified all their evil acts in the world.
“The entire thesis was a rant about male bias and an opportunity to male bash.”
No. The thesis was a reaction to FACTS that are occuring that indicate we have an issue we should be talking about rather than mis-directing attention away from. That would be the manly thing to do, anyway. IMO.
Ok, you go with that, Michael.
Again, consent matters. Yes, he lied. Yes, he quite likely abused women sexually. Yes, he is worthy of our disdain. However, what he did not do, by “that woman[‘s]” account is sexually assault her. Getting a BJ in the Oval Office is not a good look for anyone, especially when one receives it from someone other than one’s wife. Wrong? Yes. Impeachable offensive? Doubtful. But really, it’s not even about that. As a woman and a feminist, I can assure you that the majority of us do NOT hate men. Personally, I love men. I have some truly wonderful men… Read more »
you don’t hate men but you spew this dogma? That is the entirety of the problem with feminist, seeing through only one lens. You declare how sexism benifits men, but fail to see how some forms of sexism benefit women and oppress men, which is why this site is suppose to exist, but has also turned into a feminist male blame game. You are also failing to see how feminism has directly worked against men in so many areas. It is exactly that rhetoric that has lost the support of men, 80% of women, and 85% of the population. Jedi… Read more »
“How is groping women any different then getting a blow-job in the oval office, then re-defining sex, with a straight face no less, in order to avoid responsibility for his actions?” To the first point, it’s different because there was consent. She agreed. She has never claimed this was anything but consensual.
As to your second point, it was completely wrong to deny what he’d done, but I don’t get where you are seeing extreme bias. No one gave him a pass.
Consent IS a pretty big difference.
You guys do understand that the articles we write are commentary on current news items. The relevant news item here was the 538 poll and Trump’s disgusting misogyny and statements about his own sexual assaults, as well as unconscionable behavior at Trump rallys. To take every article and twist the comments to say “But what about when women are bad to men” is just silly. When news items are out there that show women behaving badly, we’re on it. Quite obviously, what we have here are men behaving badly, in Trump and his surrogates (there are a few women in… Read more »
Selective commentary. That which favors a certain point of view, party, or agenda. Again, at lest lets be honest here. You’ve challenged me to write. If I write one favoring Trump by virtue of his politics and not his sexual antics (as our side did with Bill, seeing the good he could have done). If I wrote one holding feminism accountable to many of their lies and deceit, false studies and hate of men, would you edit and publish it with the same vigor you did some 100 on Trump? If I wrote one exposing Hilly, would that make it… Read more »
So a blow job in the oval office, committing adultery is ok if consent is given? Even if I bought that, what about the many complaints of the same nature, from other women?
The bias was in our side ignoring so many of his “adventures” while castigating the other for doing the same.
You’re fishing here, without bait.
Ummm how many times was Bill accused of rape? Let me guess those are the only accusers not worth believing?
The emperor is not only naked, he’s pole dancing
“Except for the fact that she’s not “a criminal.””
Why? Because she was never convicted?
Has Trump?
Yes, because she was never convicted. That is how our criminal justice system works, buddy. And no, Trump has not. That’s why no one calls him a criminal and why it would be irresponsible to do so.
@ Michael Kasdan
But people have called Trump a sexual abuser so unless you’re saying that’s not a crime or shouldn’t be, then they’re calling Trump a criminal whether they’ve chosen to use that word or not.
No.
How about responding to the article you’re reading instead of some wrong some other “people” did.
And given the massive swell of stories from numerous victims, including those coming from his own lips in the Access Hollywood video and others, is this really the guy you want to put your flag in the ground to defend? Really?
Not me.
@ Michael Kasdan
You just going to say that a person who broke the law with her own private e0mail sever didn’t break the law. Interesting how physical evidence doesn’t seem to matter.
Riiiight… and OJ wasn’t either
Moderates for the win!