This is a comment by Danny on the post “On the Disposibility of Men“.
Lisa Hickey asked:
If men are defined by what they do, if that is a core of their very essence—and if progress is measured by what gets done, and men get killed when things get done—then where does this leave us as a society?
Danny said:
“At best those men might be lucky enough to be remembered in some way but most aren’t that lucky. (Could anyone name any of those 32,000 men that died building the Panama Canal?) At worst we have situations that are going on now. Where men and boys are literally treated like interchangeable parts in a machine. Gear gets worn out and fails? Just toss another in its place.
“One thing that is going to make it hard is that, like most forms of oppression, men and boys are raised to believe that our disposability is not just an asset but our purpose and that it is what we are supposed to do (which I think is what makes it a feature of The System at work rather than the collateral damage that it is at times reduced to). We are taught that as men that a large part of our value comes in the ability to just toss our lives away for some ‘greater good.'”
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I tend to look very far back in history for clues to our behavior.
And I’m not going to go back and research this carefully.
For 99% of hominid reproduction, reproduction took place within small inter-related groups. reproduction took place with cousins of some sort, and there is a numbers game we win when our related progeny thrive.
( it’s a game theory thing)
So if we are/were all about passing our genome down the line- then a man’s altruistic sacrifice of self makes sense in a herd/hive safety/succor thing……
http://standup2p.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/wanderlust-is-simply-genetic-diffussion-mobile-draft/
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