To achieve success in online dating, you must be targeting women who are receptive to your advances. Make sure you’re not aiming too young when it comes to their age.
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While most of you haven’t done any math since high school Algebra (which we are beginning to learn officially what most high school Freshmen know innately) there is some math that you need to do when you are out dating and looking for love.
You gotta know your Creep Number.
I first found out about the Creep Number years ago, when I was still very active on Match.com, but was feeling very, very invisible to the women who were out there.
I was in my 40’s and I was getting lots of winks and messages from women in their 40’s.
I was in my 40’s and I was sending lots of winks and messages to women in their 30’s.
Their low 30’s.
And I wasn’t getting any responses, and I didn’t know why.
Enter The Creep Number
Here’s a news flash – there’s a whole lot of women in their 30’s who don’t want to get messages from men who are almost 50.
Well, thankfully some do, and I’m going to marry her, but for the most part there’s the whole “You’re old enough to be my Dad” kinda thing going on.
Then there’s the whole “He’s having a mid-life crisis” thing going on, complete with sports car, mustache and bachelor pad on the beach with hot tub.
Both of these things are kinda creepy.
As a man, you must know that the time has come for you to grow up and date women closer to your own age.
Thankfully, there is a quick and easy way to get a ballpark figure for those women who might be a bit more receptive to your winks, nudges, and drinks sent over via the bartender. You gotta do the math and you gotta find out your Creep Number.
The Creep Number is the the rule of thumb for the lowest age of the women you can date without seeming like a creep.
Calculate Your Creep Number
I know y’all hate math, but you gotta do it at least one more time. Here’s the equation:
Your Age / 2 + 7 = Your Creep Number
That’s your age, divided by two, then add 7 to that number.
For example, right now I’m 53 years old.
Divide that by 2 and you’ve got 26.5. You always need to round UP.
Add 7 to 27 and you’ve got 34.
So, therefore, the absolute youngest I can go is 34.
This is a great starting point, but it shouldn’t be where you live.
Adjust Your Age Thermostat
Once I figured out my Creep Number, I then started looking for women who were within 10 years of that number. That helped me adjust my age thermostat.
What’s an age thermostat?
It’s the age of the women that you think you should be dating.
Sometimes the Creep Number and the Age Thermostat number are close, that’s a good thing.
Sometimes the Creep Number and the Age Thermostat number are far away, and that’s a bad thing.
For me, I finally had to realize I was not 30 any more.
I was almost 50, and it was time to start acting like someone who was almost 50.
I needed to start dating the women that I should be dating, both from a societal point of view and an “I don’t want to appear creepy” point of view.
This opened up my world immediately!
The more I messaged the older women, the more responses I received and the more coffee dates I went on. As we know, this is definitely a numbers game, and you need to really be aggressive and going out on lots of coffee dates.
To get those coffee dates, you gotta send winks and messages and emails, and you gotta send them to the women who will be most receptive to them and say “Yes”.
The Takeaway
If you haven’t had any success with online dating, take a good hard look at those women you are messaging and the age of those women. Are you messaging age appropriate women, or is your Age Thermostat stuck at 20?
Figure out your Creep Number.
Add 5 or even 10.
Start messaging those women.
I know that you’ll have greater success and if so I want to hear about it!
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This article originally appeared on William Mize’s Website.
Photo credit: Chris JL/flickr
My formula has been that a lady has to be closer in age to me than my oldest child. So my age – 14 years or less.
Would you date a woman 14 years older?
For anyone being under the delusion that mature women has no business in the dating game, this is what you can find if you just peek around the corner
https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/hlg-real-difference-mediocre-mindblowing-sex/
And also this:
https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/happened-im-dating-guy-almost-20-years-younger-hesaid/
Come on FlyingKal, you are acting like men do not discriminate against women for their age alot of the time. You are acting like men don’t purposely look to date women younger then themselves and don’t have a certain level of entitlement around this topic.
When I online dated, older men would hit on me who were so outside my age range. They would say things like, “I’m young at heart!”, “I look young for my age!”, “Women my age just can’t keep up with me.”, “Women my age are bitter” Firstly, I was turned off by the fact that they completely disregarded my profile and age limits because *they* wanted to be with a younger woman and thought that they were so studly, I would ignore my own limits. Secondly, they often did not look young for their age, were young at heart, had… Read more »
“And frankly, I found it disappointing and hypocrtical how you made sure to slip in that you are infact that the woman (with the interjection of “thankfully”) you are going to marry is significantly younger than you, herself. So the rules about the “creep factor” don’t apply to you then? ”
I think we found a statement that’s offensive to everyone!
*pops champagne*
Derp, I meant the author’s original statement, not yours Erin.
Erin,
This may be news for you, but the reality of life is that most 66 year old men will never date a 40 year old woman either.
(But then again, who’s to say it’s wrong if it’s a mutually consentual agreement?)
And for the record, no, the original formula does not discriminate for gender…
This is pure BS. Lots and lots of people want and need relationships outside of these parameters. And calling the males creeps is not worthy of GMP to be honest. On a person to person level I am going to have to disagree strongly with both principle and use of shaming and name calling. On a societal level I will concede that there is a problem for younger men here, because older, but still “more attractive” men, are being recycled by the women, and thus reducing the pool of possible partners available. This creates a growing number of male “losers”,… Read more »
And who’s driving that? Usually women, along with claims that older men are more mature, and sometimes better providers too.
It balances out for the men when they get older. These choices have consequences.
Grow up and either date women your own age, or if you must have a younger woman, make your intentions clear from the start so you can weed out the 90% of us who aren’t comfortable being hit on by our dad’s coworkers.
Unless of course you’d be okay with women your mom’s age hitting on you and expecting you to respond as if they were your age.
Or just ask out who you want. The worst she can do is say no.
If I had taken this advice, I wouldn’t have a pair of hot young FWB’s right now.
You do realise that was a joke formula from xkcd, right?
There is nothing inherently wrong with someone older messaging someone younger. If the message is disrespectful or it devolves into harassment, that’s one thing. But this notion that age automatically equals creepy is nonsense. Oh, and if you’re male, obviously.
Because no woman would ever be interested in an older man. I remember an article here about Clooney marrying his wife and asking him why he went for a woman half his age? I’m thinking why don’t you also ask his wife why she married him too?
Hi William
Do women have same creep number?
This formula tells us the creep number for a man age 66 is 40. Hmmmmmm
Can women age 66 that look for long term relationship contact men 40+online ?
To me this looks like sugerdating,
So you’re 64 and you’re dating a 39 year old? Now THAT’S creepy. You’re retiring next year and she’s working another 25 or so. She’s in her sexual prime and you’re at the age where for men sexual dysfunction rules. Her mindset is where the Vietnam War is as ancient history as the Civil War and JFK’s assassination is contemporary with Abraham Lincoln’s. She’s never seen a tv with 12 channels and doesn’t know the Titanic was lost. You are a fossil to her. She hasn’t yet figured out that she will spend some of the best years of her… Read more »
I agree
Oops, with Cynthia and with Erin.
Old men chasing young women … or reversed … old women chasing young men: Creeps.
Keep to within 5 years of your own age, stretch to 10 if there is still equality of finances, education, social status etc.
Ridiculous male bashing.